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[insan]

Yeah.. because GCs have 15.000 GC troops and 130.000 reservists

OK Insan if the G/C NG reduces to its noraml size per the 1960 Treaty will turkey as well decrease to 650.

Why not? Otherwise how would you explain their existence in Cyprus? You think they love being in Cyprus by large numbers?

[boulio]

I Really doubt they will Insan very much so.

[insan]

I Really doubt they will Insan very much so.

Why should they stay in Cyprus by large numbers if there's no threats around, please explain to me then...

[boulio]

Because there goal was never to save the t/c.It has nothing to do with threats to the t/c insan it has to do turkeys geostrategic interests.You should read FM Davotoglou book he clearly says it in his book even if cyprus didnt have one turkish cyprtiot it would still be vital for turkey to have influence over cyprus.

[bigOz]

Greece did not conform - they were forced out on two occasions by the Turkish army's stance!

For 11 years 1963-1974 the Turks were forced to migrate to foreign lands because they lived in enclaves and under GC threat. Their population staying static at best but probably declining. After 1974 the trend reversed thanks to the presence of the Turkish army WHOSE PRESENCE PUT AN END TO ANY FURTHER WARS or MASS MURDERS BETWEEN THE TWO COMMUNITIES! Endaksi re?

the only greek forces stationed in cyprus is Eldyk which is a 950 man regiment FOR THE LAST THREE DECADES.

Three decades takes us back to 1980! I was talking about the time leading up to and during 1974!

Even then, I am sure there are more mainland Greek conscripts in the South than the 950 you mentioned. In any case, Greece probably knows that it really does not matter/change anything if they had 950 instead of 95,000. BECAUSE the Turkish army is not a threat to GCs in the South - neither do they have any interest in capturing more land by war. So?...

[boulio]

and we were talking about SC RESOLUTIONS THAT TURKEY IS IN VIOLATION OF.So please read the whole thread.

[lola-tulip]

... They don't call upon Turkey to end the so-called occupation of Cyprus...

Who has affirmed/supported Turkey's occupation? Who else (apart from Turkey) condones this "so-called" occupation?

The questions you need to ask yourself are:
Who could force them out in 34 years? Who will force them out now and how? Find reasonable answers to those before even thinking about 5 steps further...

One step at a time.

Do you care to answer for "insan"?

[lola-tulip]

... They don't call upon Turkey to end the so-called occupation of Cyprus...

Who has affirmed/supported Turkey's occupation? Who else (apart from Turkey) condones this "so-called" occupation?

Hallo insan

Just in case you missed this the first time. I really would like to know.

[insan]

Because there goal was never to save the t/c.It has nothing to do with threats to the t/c insan it has to do turkeys geostrategic interests.You should read FM Davotoglou book he clearly says it in his book even if cyprus didnt have one turkish cyprtiot it would still be vital for turkey to have influence over cyprus.

Geo-Strategic interests of Turkey is completely related with all kinds of threats around her... Claiming that their aim was not to save TCs does not make any sense... Turkish politicians never denied they have geo-strategic interests in and around their region... It is not something new... Which country hasn't got geo-strategic interests in their regions besides in the regions too far away from their regions...

Don't GC politicians have geo strategic interests in our region? Do you think Greek and GC politicians care about their cognates more than the Turkish politicians care about their cognates when it comes to the geo-strategic interests?

What geo-strategic interests have EU in and around Cyprus? Who gives them the right to have geo-startegic interests in and around Cyprus and deny the same right to others including Turkey?

[insan]

... They don't call upon Turkey to end the so-called occupation of Cyprus...

Who has affirmed/supported Turkey's occupation? Who else (apart from Turkey) condones this "so-called" occupation?

Hallo insan

Just in case you missed this the first time. I really would like to know.

None of the impartial government officials of allied countries be it in the western alliance or in the east called Turkey as an invader/occupier in Cyprus... Since there has been no invasion/occupation but a defacto stuation that established as a consequence of decades lasted inter-communal and international strife/armed conflict between primarily the leaderships of GC, TCs, governments of Turkey and Greece and their active supporters; there was no need to affirm/support Turkey's so-called occupation but contribute the solution of the defacto situation by calling upon all concerned parties to negotiate and settle the issue...

Now you answer my question...

Had TCs had nearly the same number of TC national guard and TC reservists as GC have wouldn't you still claim TCs invaded/occupied 36% of Cyprus? Yes you would!

So forget all about Turkey and focus on the essentials of the issue...