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Sooner or later Turkey and Azerbaijan should quit occupied

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Postby AWE » Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:45 pm

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boomerang wrote:the point is the turkish fm is calling for armenian withdraw while turkey is happy occupying...then the arnmenian responded...

turkey never said for her to withdraw from cyprus but says armenia must respect azeri teritorial intergrity...you see the problem?...


Ok but do you think AM with withdraw form Azeri territory? because if not then the call for turkey to withdraw is not based on respect for International law is it?


but it's not armenia calling for teritorial intergrity or anything...its damn turkey...the armenians just responded, after what the turkish fm said...do you see the problem here...


but i beg to differ.

E. Sharmazanov: Sooner or later Turkey and Azerbaijan should quit occupied lands


so the AM FM is not calling for territorial integrity then what is he calling for?

given

Four United Nations Security Council Resolutions (822, 853, 874, and 884) called for "the withdrawal of occupying forces from occupied areas of the Azerbaijani Republic"
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Postby boomerang » Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:56 pm

awe are you thick or what...there are counless resolutions calling for turkey to withdraw, not just 4, and from all sorts of bodies....

the armenians were responding to what the turks said....in other words the turkish fm made a statement and the armenians responded...so where do you beg to differ exactly...

further more since turkey and armenia signed protocols, turkey again not honouring her signature, nothing new here, made new demands...

in other words turkey demands from armenia to withdraw as per un resolutions without mentioning herself to withdraw as per un resolutions...

are you suffering from jetlag by any chance, coz i explained this to you a number of times...if the turks kept their mouth shut and honoured what they signed we wouldn't be having this conversation tonight...would we?
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Postby insan » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:40 pm

boomerang wrote:awe are you thick or what...there are counless resolutions calling for turkey to withdraw, not just 4, and from all sorts of bodies....

the armenians were responding to what the turks said....in other words the turkish fm made a statement and the armenians responded...so where do you beg to differ exactly...

further more since turkey and armenia signed protocols, turkey again not honouring her signature, nothing new here, made new demands...

in other words turkey demands from armenia to withdraw as per un resolutions without mentioning herself to withdraw as per un resolutions...

are you suffering from jetlag by any chance, coz i explained this to you a number of times...if the turks kept their mouth shut and honoured what they signed we wouldn't be having this conversation tonight...would we?


All UN resolutions in their essentials call upon all concerned parties to resume the negotiations in order to find a solution to the Cyprus problem... They don't call upon Turkey to end the so-called occupation of Cyprus... Everyone knows this fact except you Boomsy... Existence of Turkish troops other than the number of troops granted by the internationally recognized agreements and treaties is because of the unresolved Cyprus problem... Is that too difficult for you to understand or you have a digestive problem? :lol:

What it has to do with Armenia occupying the lands belong to Azerbaycan and the Turkis troops in Cyprus? Did Armenians also sign agreements and treaties to maintain troops in Nagorno-Karabağ for the security of the Armenians living there and they are ready to withdraw when a solution found the problem, huh?

Tell me Boomsy what it has to do with Cyprus problem and the existence of Turkish troops in TRNC which obviously stay there to reinforce insufficient TC forces in order to prevent any higly possible to be erupted armed conflict?
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Postby boulio » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:48 pm

All UN resolutions in their essentials call upon all concerned parties to resume the negotiations in order to find a solution to the Cyprus problem... They don't call upon Turkey to end the so-called occupation of Cyprus... Everyone knows this fact except you Boomsy... Existence of Turkish troops other than the number of troops granted by the internationally recognized agreements and treaties is because of the unresolved Cyprus problem... Is that too difficult for you to understand or you have a digestive problem?


you are absolutly wrong and are lying thru your teeth.
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Postby insan » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:29 pm

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All UN resolutions in their essentials call upon all concerned parties to resume the negotiations in order to find a solution to the Cyprus problem... They don't call upon Turkey to end the so-called occupation of Cyprus... Everyone knows this fact except you Boomsy... Existence of Turkish troops other than the number of troops granted by the internationally recognized agreements and treaties is because of the unresolved Cyprus problem... Is that too difficult for you to understand or you have a digestive problem?


you are absolutly wrong and are lying thru your teeth.


Tell me where am i absolutely wrong? Before, check the below link if you like...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Un ... ing_Cyprus

Do you think, had TCs had 15.000 TC national guard and 130.000 TC reservists; there would be any need for Turkish troops other than the legal number of 650 Turkish troops?

Who would you call as an invader/occupier then? TCs? :lol:
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Postby boulio » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:34 pm

what does resolution 353 say?
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Postby insan » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:47 pm

boulio wrote:what does resolution 353 say?


Requests the withdrawal of military personnel , Calls upon Greece, Turkey and the United Kingdom to enter into negotiations for a peace settlement without delay.


That's include the so-called, illehal GC, Hellenic NG which was under control of then the Greek officers who brought the disaster to Cyprus?
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Postby boulio » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:55 pm

this is what it request insan:

Requests the withdrawal without delay from the Republic of Cyprus of foreign military personnel present otherwise than under the authority of international agreements, including those whose withdrawal was requested by the President of the Republic of Cyprus, Archbishop Makarios, in his letter of 2 July 1974;

greece and gb conform to the above resolution does turkey?
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Postby insan » Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:50 pm

boulio wrote:this is what it request insan:

Requests the withdrawal without delay from the Republic of Cyprus of foreign military personnel present otherwise than under the authority of international agreements, including those whose withdrawal was requested by the President of the Republic of Cyprus, Archbishop Makarios, in his letter of 2 July 1974;

greece and gb conform to the above resolution does turkey?


No... until a lasting solution found to Cyprus problem... as I've told had TCs had 15.000 TC national guard and 130.000 TC reservists; yes Turkish troops would have withdrawn...

It's nonsense to ask Turkish troops to withdraw both under then and now the circumstances...

Neither TCs, nor Turkey is anyone's fool to give just another chance to GCs and Greeks for the repetition of 1963, 1964, 1967 or 1974... Above all, being in awareness that all efforts of GC leaderships and it's active supporters is still looking for ways to degrade TCs into a minority status; strongly urges TCs and Turkey to maintain the Turkish troops in Cyprus until those political circles genuinely acknowledge the political equality of TC community and truely reconcile with TCs and Turks...
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Postby bigOz » Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:07 pm

boulio wrote:this is what it request insan:

Requests the withdrawal without delay from the Republic of Cyprus of foreign military personnel present otherwise than under the authority of international agreements, including those whose withdrawal was requested by the President of the Republic of Cyprus, Archbishop Makarios, in his letter of 2 July 1974;

Greece and gb conform to the above resolution does turkey?

Greece did not conform - they were forced out on two occasions by the Turkish army's stance!

For 11 years 1963-1974 the Turks were forced to migrate to foreign lands because they lived in enclaves and under GC threat. Their population staying static at best but probably declining. After 1974 the trend reversed thanks to the presence of the Turkish army WHOSE PRESENCE PUT AN END TO ANY FURTHER WARS or MASS MURDERS BETWEEN THE TWO COMMUNITIES! Endaksi re?
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