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[boulio]

Actually Mrh it concerns the EU and Nato a Whole lot.The cyprus problem is hindering EU and Nato integration to a even larger phase and that my friend is alot more important than the t/c being able to export a box of oranges to belgium.

Maybe you should get your facts straight.

PS what is wrong in your opinion with christofias proposals concerning varosia,direct trade and unfreezing of turkish EU chapters and famagusta port for t/c exporting?

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asparagassssss

[Get Real!]

asparagassssss

Hey! I thought you got raped somewhere in one of them Latin American slums and decided to stay there!

[Get Real!]

You need to get your facts right my son.

Yeah... sure.

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asparagassssss

Hey! I thought you got raped somewhere in one of them Latin American slums and decided to stay there!

I missed you too dear GR.

[Get Real!]

asparagassssss

Hey! I thought you got raped somewhere in one of them Latin American slums and decided to stay there!

I missed you too dear GR.

Have you any idea how much DEATH you’ve evaded by traversing through Latin America? A human life isn’t worth two cents in most countries there…

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Believe me it was worth it.


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[bill cobbett]

Get Real Wrote:

??? What kind of rubbish is this?

Turkey is OBLIGED to open her ports so don’t assume that she would be doing Cyprus any favors, other than make a cheap attempt to recommence her stagnant EU accession path but it’ll be too little too late as you may find out.


Anyway, this baseless thread should also be locked and tossed among the rest of the MrH’s unsubstantiated rubbish.

This is why I love you so much Get Real my Cypriot Compatriot, you are so red-blooded!

Cool down and have a coke and a smile.

Turkey is ONLY so-called "Obliged" to open its port under the FRAMEWORK of It's EU Membership bid - nothing else, and as if it will soon be a part of any way, and not that it really wants to anymore! Where, and this is the bottom line here Get Real, a Comprehensive settlement of the Cyprus problem is a 40 year old UN matter and not really, truly, one concerning the EU at this early age of human history.

You need to get your facts right my son.

A FRAMEWORK??? again wrong Mr/Mrs H, if you bother to look to see what sources reveal rather than what you would like them to say, you will find Turkey is OBLIGED to open its ports and airspace (amongst other things) in order to keep to its AGREEMENT under the Ankara Protocol as a simple CONDITION of opening new Chapters in its Accession.

Oh and the other thing, whilst we're on matters EU and UN and CY.... and again something which is easily goggled, look up what the EC has been saying as far as a wider CY settlement goes recently... it uses the same phrase time and time again... the phrase is...

(the EC) ...."supports and is ready to assist in any effort to solve the problem that could be agreed between the two leaders of the two communities(in the context of the ongoing negotiations under the auspices of the United Nations) and is agreeable to the principles of the European Union"

Sorry, but for the usual suspects, the thick-headed and hard of hearing, will repeat the last few words...... "and is agreeable to the principles of the European Union"

[Sotos]

What if I told you to revert back to your leader Mr Christofias as a good source of information regarding this! As, he is very much aware of what Turkey is now planning in terms of the opening of the Ports......Perhaps a hint would be to view why Mr Christofias is determined to speak directly with Turkey only; the very nation it regards as the "Occupiers of Northern Cyprus".

The Truth is, Mr Christofias knows that when Turkey opens its ports, soon, unconditionally, at an international level he [Mr Christofias] will be politically ruined; probably at home too!

If the Isolation of the Greek Cypriot State is removed by Turkey and it agrees to open its ports to Greek Cypriot traffic, one of either of the two is thought to materialise:

1) The Greek Cypriots will refuse Turkey's offer, landing them [The Greek Cypriots that is] in deep political turmoil due to the political needs of the European Union; like their constant badgering of Turkey to open its ports first, energy deals and requirements with Turkey concerning the EU-Middle Eastern and Turkic "project". Thus, the stage will be set, again if the Greek Cypriots should refuse this offer, for the removal of the isolation of the TRNC by the EU and then possible recognition due to the exposure of the ill intentions of the Greek Cypriots.

2) The Greek Cypriot will accept the offer and Two Cypriot States as staged under the former "Annan Plan" leading to an ultimate Confederal agreement.

You see my fellow compatriots, the ball is truly in Turkey's court which is why, when some thought is applied to the Isolation Removal issue, Turkey will definitely be soon removing its objections to "Greek Cypriot" traffic. I just hope that Christofias has prepared for the storm that awaits him!

What Turkey's offer? This is Turkey's OBLIGATION according to agreements Turkey signed. And what "Isolation of the Greek Cypriot State"??? Thank you for finally admitting that Cyprus is Greek but I have to inform you that Cyprus is not isolated at all and the reason we want Turkey to open its ports to us is so that even Turkey will recognize RoC like all other countries in the world.

[MrH]

My FACTS are the REALITIES on the island my Greek Cypriot Nationalists.

The Cyprus issue is a UNITED NATIONS matter and not one of the EU. The EU knew what it was getting into when they wrongly accepted an "Island in Conflict".

Also, let's keep NATO out of it as Turkey is clearly more favoured than Greece and Greek Cyprus.

Turkey has NO guarantee that it will EVER become an EU member state, besides the Cyprus issue France, Germany and a few others will always use other reasons to block Turkey's EU entry. Therefore, forget about using Cyprus as an obsticle to Turkey's EU entry. The reality is very different than your GC fiction.

There's only one reality and that is the EU must assist in rectifying its mistake of letting the GCs representing the entire island as the situation at ground level is very different indeed.

You can all gang up on a Turkish Cypriot all you want, but that will never dismiss the realities on the island, the fact that Christofias will have to always sit around a table with his Constitutional partner Mr Eroglu and the Cyprus problem will never be solved, and Turkey will not become an EU member state, until a Confederal deal is signed.

Good luck in you Brain washing!