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NEWSFLASH: Turkey is Open its Ports

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Postby linguist » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:04 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:
Me Ed wrote:Surely if this is true, then this is Turkey reciprocating everything the RoC has done for the TCs so far.


Like what? Please don't churn out the old chestnuts like jobs, passports, health, etc., as these are all rights of TCs, not concessions by GCs.


Yes, because the TRNC does so much to safeguard the rights of GC citizens and GC heritage...
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Postby Me Ed » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:10 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:
Me Ed wrote:Surely if this is true, then this is Turkey reciprocating everything the RoC has done for the TCs so far.


Like what? Please don't churn out the old chestnuts like jobs, passports, health, etc., as these are all rights of TCs, not concessions by GCs.

Technically they are consessions because, it is the duty and obligation of citizens of a country to pay taxes to fund these rights.

Can I add opening the border crossings and free energy.

I ask you, what have the Romans ever done for us?
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:10 pm

linguist wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
Me Ed wrote:Surely if this is true, then this is Turkey reciprocating everything the RoC has done for the TCs so far.


Like what? Please don't churn out the old chestnuts like jobs, passports, health, etc., as these are all rights of TCs, not concessions by GCs.


Yes, because the TRNC does so much to safeguard the rights of GC citizens and GC heritage...


You've lost me there, pal.
To misquote Monty Python "What have the GCs ever done for us?"
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Postby Cap » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:20 pm

what's the catch?
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Postby bill cobbett » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:43 pm

Below's a summary of the situation agreed in 2005 and 2006 with respect to Turkish Accession and Cyprus...

from which we can see that the opening of Turkish ports (and airspace), isn't conditional on any reciprocation by the Republic.

... and also from the bits in bold below ... Turkey has a long way to go in normalising relations with the Republic and fostering a settlement based on (amongst other things) EU founding principles.



Following a series of debates among the EU-25 states, the Council on 3 October 2005 decided to open accession talks with Turkey. Under the negotiating framework for the country, Ankara's progress in its accession talks will be measured, among others, by its "continued support for efforts to achieve a comprehensive settlement of the Cyprus problem within the UN framework and in line with the principles on which the Union is founded, including steps to contribute to a favourable climate for a comprehensive settlement, and progress in the normalisation of bilateral relations between Turkey and all EU member states, including the Republic of Cyprus".

On 29 November 2006, the European Commission recommended the partial suspension of talks, because Turkey had refused to implement the Ankara Protocol and open its trade to vessels from Cyprus. On 11 December 2006, EU foreign ministers agreed to follow a Commission recommendation to sanction Turkey and suspend talks on eight of 35 chapters. The eight chapters are: Free Movement of Goods, Right of Establishment and Freedom to Provide Services, Financial Services, Agriculture and Rural Development, Fisheries, Transport Policy, Customs Union and External Relations.
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Postby AWE » Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:09 pm

Possible this is what is being talked about, but not much new here if it is.

http://www.eubusiness.com/news-eu/enlarge-turkey.4uo
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:16 pm

AWE wrote:Possible this is what is being talked about, but not much new here if it is.

http://www.eubusiness.com/news-eu/enlarge-turkey.4uo


Check out the date on it.
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Postby CBBB » Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:24 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:
Me Ed wrote:Surely if this is true, then this is Turkey reciprocating everything the RoC has done for the TCs so far.


Like what? Please don't churn out the old chestnuts like jobs, passports, health, etc., as these are all rights of TCs, not concessions by GCs.


As the opening of Turkey's ports and airspace to RoC traffic is a right under the treaties that Turkey has signed with the EU! So what is your point?
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:31 pm

CBBB wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
Me Ed wrote:Surely if this is true, then this is Turkey reciprocating everything the RoC has done for the TCs so far.


Like what? Please don't churn out the old chestnuts like jobs, passports, health, etc., as these are all rights of TCs, not concessions by GCs.


As the opening of Turkey's ports and airspace to RoC traffic is a right under the treaties that Turkey has signed with the EU! So what is your point?


As was the direct trade and travel promised to TCs if they said yes to AP in 2004.
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Postby Gasman » Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:38 pm

This is hardly a newsflash as it was discussed some months ago.

I thought they were only going to 'open' anything if they were allowed free trade for Kyrenia, Famagusta and Ercan Airport in return?

Has anything changed since then?
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