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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:33 pm

boulio wrote:but san marino is not a EU member,and do the laws apply to Foreigners or to san marinoions(dont know what there callled)


Do all countries have to be in the EU, theres a bigger world out there who live in peace and properity.
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Postby humanist » Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:34 pm

In my opinion each State ought to be made up of 50/50 government representation and the Federal Government 80/20. With push to combine all political parties ie socialist TC party and Socialist GC to unite its the only way to guarantee one citizenship and one Cypriots identity.

Federal government to be responsible for

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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:35 pm

humanist wrote:VP
I totally agree with the register part of your post, we should know exactly how many GCs want to return to the north or prefer to accept compensation or even exchanged land in the south submitted by willing TCs.


Who says GC's and TC's can't agree? lol

I think its important because it clears up a great deal of the unknown. Especially where people have died and ancestors are about to receive the land and may have a life in another part of Cyprus they do not wish to leave behind but still want their inheritance.


The figure that want to reside in the north state maybe so low that the fear of quotas maybe unfounded.

50 years of non agreement says it all really.
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Postby boulio » Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:37 pm

but if there is a solution you will be in the EU.SO I dont understand whats your point.

dont T/C want to be in the EU?

if yes they have to realize that there will be a settlment based on a federation that will adhere to EU laws.There maybe derogations from the eu aquis however they will never be permenant.
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Postby humanist » Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:38 pm

My guess is that there is a low number who would want to return. I would imagine VP there will be a large number who will return around Rizokarpaso and and who have lots of property near Lefkosia. The rest will say I don't want the house they can have it but I want my land to seell off on the pvt market.... I think that's fair enough

I know very closely a family from the village of Kira near Morphou ... they have lots of land but will not return. They will let go of the house but maintain they want the land.

A close family friend from Varosia want a house in the newly to be build house and they are happy to accept good compensation for the land because they now live in Australia.
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:40 pm

boulio wrote:but if there is a solution you will be in the EU.SO I dont understand whats your point.

dont T/C want to be in the EU?

if yes they have to realize that there will be a settlment based on a federation that will adhere to EU laws.There maybe derogations from the eu aquis however they will never be permenant.


The EU has said time and time again they are prepared to accept derogrations which may even have very long shelf lives to prove the transition periods necessary to encourage trust and understanding, dont forget they also rubber stamped the AP which you rejected.
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Postby kurupetos » Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:42 pm

humanist wrote:In my opinion each State ought to be made up of 50/50 government representation and the Federal Government 80/20. With push to combine all political parties ie socialist TC party and Socialist GC to unite its the only way to guarantee one citizenship and one Cypriots identity.

Federal government to be responsible for

Education
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Taxation
Infrastucture


:shock: Reh humanist, do you live on planet Earth? :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:42 pm

humanist wrote:My guess is that there is a low number who would want to return. I would imagine VP there will be a large number who will return around Rizokarpaso and and who have lots of property near Lefkosia. The rest will say I don't want the house they can have it but I want my land to seell off on the pvt market.... I think that's fair enough

I know very closely a family from the village of Kira near Morphou ... they have lots of land but will not return. They will let go of the house but maintain they want the land.

A close family friend from Varosia want a house in the newly to be build house and they are happy to accept good compensation for the land because they now live in Australia.


Thats why I agree with a register, which in a way the IPC available now is as some GCs have started to sell off their land as they will never want to live in the north state or believe that there will never be a solution.
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Postby humanist » Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:43 pm

Reh humanist, do you live on planet Earth?


Am just hopeful that the human kind can start thinking as one lol ..... eternal optimist here .... ;)
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Postby boulio » Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:44 pm

the dereogations were permanent in the Annan plan and the EU never voted on it.Vergugen who was at the time responsible for EU enlargement may have approved it but the EU Nor the UN security council HAVE NEVER approved it .derogations in a trasnitional period i believe would be acceptable for a pre defined and agreed period.
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