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Over 400 caught breaching smoking ban last month

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Postby boomerang » Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:03 pm

miltiades wrote:
boomerang wrote:the point here is milti and you missed the point...the government cannot tell you what you can do and what you can't do while they are taking money from you ...got it...

The same can be said with a myriad of other " do or not do "
Here is a list.
The government , following your logic , can not tell you that you can only drive at speeds permitted and that you ...require a license !!!
The government can not tell you that it is illegal for you to grow hash in your back garden or that you can not take hard drugs or that you can not drive your car when intoxicated !!!
Responsible governments take advice from the WHO and not from irresponsible citizens !!!!
I suppose next the government , following your logic , will be telling us that we can only have one wife at a time !!!


lets follow your logic for a moment...pay attention here milti...are you stating WHO is endorsing smoking in allowed places?...i am sure WHO is saying its bad for you...how come then responsible governments don't ban the sale of tabacco...or are you saying governments are irresponsible... :lol:

its all about control and revenue...

hands up how many got booked travelling in 60km limit doing 63kms...me, plenty of times...its called revenue raising...damn assholes

a few years back i spray painted the lens with black paint one of their cameras...its called pay back... :lol:

btw milti hash doesn't grow in gardens...it's a by product and obsolete these days...reserved for the uncivilised... :lol:
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Postby cyprusgrump » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:21 pm

Revision of the Tobacco Products Directive* wrote:The macroeconomic cost of tobacco-related diseases has been estimated at €2.46 billion euro per year. This consists of over €1.3 billion euro constituting medical expenditure on tobacco-related diseases (including €560 million accounted for by non-smoking staff) and over 1.1 billion euro constituting non-medical costs linked to productivity losses (including €480 million accounted for by non-smoking staff)...


Christus, all you anti smokers are right! :shock:

Oh, hold on tho...

Revision of the Tobacco Products Directive* wrote:The [tax] revenue from tobacco sales across the EU in 2007 is estimated at €67.089 billion.







* An official EU Document
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Postby SSBubbles » Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:56 pm

How many have been caught smoking this month then? :lol:

What I cannot stand is the taxi/bus drivers who persist in smoking in their vehicles! They stink! :twisted:
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Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Oct 15, 2010 4:40 pm

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Postby CBBB » Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:26 pm

SSBubbles wrote:How many have been caught smoking this month then? :lol:

What I cannot stand is the taxi/bus drivers who persist in smoking in their vehicles! They stink! :twisted:


I haven't been caught yet, but I am sure that 60 a day man, CyprusGrump, has been fined a few times!
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Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Oct 15, 2010 6:36 pm

CBBB wrote:
SSBubbles wrote:How many have been caught smoking this month then? :lol:

What I cannot stand is the taxi/bus drivers who persist in smoking in their vehicles! They stink! :twisted:


I haven't been caught yet, but I am sure that 60 a day man, CyprusGrump, has been fined a few times!


:lol: :lol: :lol:

They won't take my cheques any more either... :cry:
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Postby CBBB » Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:12 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
CBBB wrote:
SSBubbles wrote:How many have been caught smoking this month then? :lol:

What I cannot stand is the taxi/bus drivers who persist in smoking in their vehicles! They stink! :twisted:


I haven't been caught yet, but I am sure that 60 a day man, CyprusGrump, has been fined a few times!


:lol: :lol: :lol:

They won't take my cheques any more either... :cry:


What about your Slovaks?
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Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:50 pm

CBBB wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
CBBB wrote:
SSBubbles wrote:How many have been caught smoking this month then? :lol:

What I cannot stand is the taxi/bus drivers who persist in smoking in their vehicles! They stink! :twisted:


I haven't been caught yet, but I am sure that 60 a day man, CyprusGrump, has been fined a few times!


:lol: :lol: :lol:

They won't take my cheques any more either... :cry:


What about your Slovaks?


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Postby CBBB » Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:36 am

Smoking ban ‘too severe’, say MPs

By Jacqueline Agathocleous
Published on October 16, 2010

A NUMBER of MPs have co-signed a law proposal to amend the current smoking ban, which hopes to offer venues the right to have separate smoking areas.

According to DISY MP Andreas Themistocleous, who prepared the proposal, the current ban is not being adhered to, with members of the public smoking freely in entertainment venues – especially bars and nightclubs - in direct violation of the law, which came into effect in January this year.

The deputy felt it should be up to the public to decide whether they want to smoke or not – as long as they are not affecting anyone else.

“When the law was being passed, the margins were left for amendments,” he explained yesterday. “MPs promised to those who were reacting that the law would be implemented, a few months would pass and any weaknesses spotted would lead to amendments.”

He said the DISY, EDEK and DIKO MPs’ proposal offered venue owners the right to offer up to 50 per cent of the area to smokers – provided that the venue has an area of 70 square metres or more and the designated smoking area is completely separate and cut off.

“Our proposal for the smoking law is complete with justifications, it is balanced and it affects in no way whatsoever the rights of non smokers,” Themistocleous explained. “One thing is for sure: if the law remains as it is, it isn’t being implemented. So what is the use of this law? It needs to be amended. What we achieved here is a money-making machine for the government.”

The MP reasoned that it was illogical to allow the legal importation and sale of tobacco products, and then ban people from smoking them.

“Parliament can’t prevent members of the public from creating a club, where they could use this product,” he pointed out.

Ireland, Norway, Italy and Britain are among the states that implemented full smoking bans successfully.

However, Themistocleous suggested Cyprus follows the example of states such as Belgium and Bulgaria, where the smoking laws are not so severe.

“The seven MPs who co-signed the proposal feel the need for amendments,” he said. “Amendments that don’t affect non-smokers and don’t put their health or dignity at risk,” he added.

A prime example of how the current law has failed, said Themistocleous, was that there had been an increase in sales of tobacco products in the first four months of 2010, compared to the year before.

“The state’s income from taxes on tobacco products – without these being increased or altered in any way – reached €59 million in the first half of 2010, compared to €54 million in 2009,” he pointed out. “This means we have achieved the exact opposite from what we hoped to achieve with this law.”

The relevant law today is not being implemented, said Themistocleous. “A quick stroll around the island’s nightclubs will show you that from 11 pm onwards, youths are smoking freely.”

The DISY MP maintained there should be a place in society for non smokers as well as smokers. “I won’t go into the ethics of whether someone should smoke or not; obviously we shouldn’t smoke,” said the keen smoker.

“But if someone is to quit something, this is something that can’t be enforced with orders or laws. It is the personal life of each person and in a complete democracy, anyone can affect their health as much as they like. Anyway, there may be many other things that could be a lot more harmful than smoking.”

Themistocleous admitted there were many laws that were passed in parliament but had never been implemented, “due to their extremity or hollowness”.

The law proposal, which was submitted to the House Health Committee, and is still to be discussed, was co-signed by DISY’s George Georgiou, Soteris Sampson and Andreas Kyprianou, as well as DIKO’s Neophytos Constantinou and Zacharias Koulias, and Rikkos Erotokritou of EVROKO.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/smoki ... s/20101016
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Postby cyprusgrump » Sat Oct 16, 2010 9:50 am

Some common sense at last - excellent! :D
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