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What wil refugees accept to ensure a settlement?

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Postby Get Real! » Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:18 pm

Oracle wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:Everyone should be free to choose which state they wish to reside in...

Are you lot moving to the US? :?

Alright! :D


How about a poll to see which State the TCs would best fit in, in good 'ole USA? :D

I reckon Texas where they've got rattlesnakes and the death penalty! 8)
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Postby Oracle » Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:23 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Everyone should be free to choose which state they wish to reside in...

Are you lot moving to the US? :?

Alright! :D


How about a poll to see which State the TCs would best fit in, in good 'ole USA? :D

I reckon Texas where they've got rattlesnakes and the death penalty! 8)


I reckon Iowa 'cos they all marry their cousins and do nothing all day.
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Postby humanist » Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:40 pm

Everyone should be free to choose which state they wish to reside in and all refugees should be asked whether they want compensation or their property or exchange.

The real issue is governance, there has to be a system whereby the power in each state and at federal level cannot be manipulated to favor either the GCs or the TCs.


My god .... what have you done with the real VP

This nearly sounds fair, something that no real VP will agree too lol ;)
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:43 pm

humanist wrote:
Everyone should be free to choose which state they wish to reside in and all refugees should be asked whether they want compensation or their property or exchange.

The real issue is governance, there has to be a system whereby the power in each state and at federal level cannot be manipulated to favor either the GCs or the TCs.


My god .... what have you done with the real VP

This nearly sounds fair, something that no real VP will agree too lol ;)


I have supported this all along but you have never really tried to understand what I have been saying.
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Postby humanist » Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:45 pm

don't make assumptions .... perhaps you didn't explain it for a simple simon like me to understand.

a cup can either be half filled or half empty lol ;)
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:47 pm

humanist wrote:don't make assumptions .... perhaps you didn't explain it for a simple simon like me to understand.

a cup can either be half filled or half empty lol ;)


You people only see it from one angle...our priority is not material like yours but security and self rule more than anything.
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Postby humanist » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:08 am

I am not sure what more of security you can request from a member State of EU other than what applies to all other States. Which you will have as EU member State citizens ..... which you are if you choose to accept the RoC as your country. Which is btw already recognised as such.

Self rule is the same thing a majority of GC's are also wanting. However, in a democratic nation with one citizenship one identity all citizens are ruled equally and represented equally. Remembering that you are not the indigenous people of Cyprus I think you need to go with the democratic style of rule.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:12 am

humanist wrote:I am not sure what more of security you can request from a member State of EU other than what applies to all other States. Which you will have as EU member State citizens ..... which you are if you choose to accept the RoC as your country. Which is btw already recognised as such.

Self rule is the same thing a majority of GC's are also wanting. However, in a democratic nation with one citizenship one identity all citizens are ruled equally and represented equally. Remembering that you are not the indigenous people of Cyprus I think you need to go with the democratic style of rule.


Thats where you go wrong we are indigenous to this island and deserve not to be dominated by GCs all we ask for is a structure that will not allow for us to be pushed to one side. As for security who will step in if internal conflict starts again and the GCs are beating the shit out of the TCs? there is not enough trust to allow the weak EU to look on while innocent people are killed, we need security measures that will deter both sides from trying to start trouble with the other state. If you harbour no such intentions then why are you so against deterrants? your refusal only fuels more mistrust and increases the need for even stronger security measures.
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Postby bill cobbett » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:38 am

Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:I am not sure what more of security you can request from a member State of EU other than what applies to all other States. Which you will have as EU member State citizens ..... which you are if you choose to accept the RoC as your country. Which is btw already recognised as such.

Self rule is the same thing a majority of GC's are also wanting. However, in a democratic nation with one citizenship one identity all citizens are ruled equally and represented equally. Remembering that you are not the indigenous people of Cyprus I think you need to go with the democratic style of rule.


Thats where you go wrong we are indigenous to this island and deserve not to be dominated by GCs all we ask for is a structure that will not allow for us to be pushed to one side. As for security who will step in if internal conflict starts again and the GCs are beating the shit out of the TCs? there is not enough trust to allow the weak EU to look on while innocent people are killed, we need security measures that will deter both sides from trying to start trouble with the other state. If you harbour no such intentions then why are you so against deterrants? your refusal only fuels more mistrust and increases the need for even stronger security measures.


A quick question please VP.... erm can you remind me and the rest of the World as to when was the last time the "gcs were kicking the shit out of the tcs" ....... the last time the Rest of The World and I looked it was very much the other way round............ :roll:
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Re: What wil refugees accept to ensure a settlement?

Postby Me Ed » Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:36 am

CBBB wrote:Purely on the property issue, if a referendum was held now with only refugees on all sides voting, what would be the percentages for each of these options?

1. Return to live in the property they left behind.

2. Return of property, not returning to live there.

3. Exchange of their property with property from the other community.

4. Reasonable monetary compensation.

Your estimates should be broken down by community.

What is the actual point of you asking this question?

What the GCs want is quite well documented on CF, but what I have not actually seen is a clear and concise and unequivical statement as to what the TC want in a settlement.

PS: Turks need not apply.
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