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[Piratis]

Why don't you ever talk about peace? Why are the posts always about war and hatred and bitterness? Don't you know that you are all individually responsible for communal relations and as long as you decide to remain enemies - you will!

When will you look forwards instead of backwards?

Simple answer to that is, the Turks demand whats not theirs and want to run roughshod over us.

Communal relations start with respecting human and democratic rights, something the Turks know nothing about. When you have 40,000 heavily armed foreign troops pointing guns as you with daily threats from the more powerful country nearby, how can you think of anything else.

Your question(s) should be directed to the Turks not the the GCs.

Turkey should not be pointing their guns, their troops are here illegally and they should go home.

But their threats can only be a threat to peace if we allow it to be. The dictatorship of a military threat will not prevent me from being on a friendly basis with the average person from the Turkish-Cypriot community. This threat will not twist me into enmity with my neighbor.

I direct my question at people from both communities. We've inherited this situation, we're the only people who are going to do anything about it.

CyprusNewsReport,

You have my utmost respect Sir. This is exactly what would be expected from any reasonable and rational person, unfortunately those of this forum seem to lack common sense and common decency. I say well done to you Sir and please keep posting.

As I already said we have no problem whatsoever with those TCs who do not support the Turkish occupation and the pseudo state created on the land stolen from us. Unfortunately most TCs, in this forum and in general, fully support the crimes of Turkey in Cyprus. Right AlanwithoneL?

[insan]

Why don't you ever talk about peace? Why are the posts always about war and hatred and bitterness? Don't you know that you are all individually responsible for communal relations and as long as you decide to remain enemies - you will!

When will you look forwards instead of backwards?

Simple answer to that is, the Turks demand whats not theirs and want to run roughshod over us.

Communal relations start with respecting human and democratic rights, something the Turks know nothing about. When you have 40,000 heavily armed foreign troops pointing guns as you with daily threats from the more powerful country nearby, how can you think of anything else.

Your question(s) should be directed to the Turks not the the GCs.

Turkey should not be pointing their guns, their troops are here illegally and they should go home.

But their threats can only be a threat to peace if we allow it to be. The dictatorship of a military threat will not prevent me from being on a friendly basis with the average person from the Turkish-Cypriot community. This threat will not twist me into enmity with my neighbor.

I direct my question at people from both communities. We've inherited this situation, we're the only people who are going to do anything about it.

CNR, if you wish to do anything about peace in Cyprus and be a pro-peace activist; there are so many NGOs on both sides of the Cyprus would like to have more people in their ranks...

There are thousands of Cypriots who have friendly relations in various degrees...

This is a public forum that the most active members of it, does not exceed a dozen of individuals who have various type of personalities, knowledge, perspective etc.

You can't change them by asking them why don't they do this or that because they are all adults...

And... Actually we talk about peace but what's considered as peace for GCs is not considered as peace for TCs...

As for existense of Turkish troops, they are here just to reinforce the TC troops that are not sufficient in numbers and military technology to protect the Green Line until a lasting solution to Cyprus problem found...

Let's say there are 40.000 TC troops in North, wouldn't you consider it illegal and ask TCs to abolish it? I'm 100% sure that you would...

It's a nonsense to ask withdrawal of Turkish troops before a lasting solution found to Cyprus problem...

... and if what you mean by saying peace is "let's behave like nothing happened in the past, start from scratch, everyone return their pre-64, pre-74 homes and properties, give TCs a minority status, let Cyprus be a GC/Greek ruled island..."; no, this is not peace for TCs and will never be...

... So, CNR; you asked why people don't ever talk about peace but you've also not talked about it yet... why don't you open a thread under the section "solution proposals" and let us discuss your peace plan?

[Piratis]

As for existense of Turkish troops, they are here just to reinforce the TC troops that are not sufficient in numbers and military technology to protect the Green Line until a lasting solution to Cyprus problem found...

The Turkish troops are here violating international law, the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus and the human rights of 100s of thousands of Cypriot people and their aim is to use these crimes to blackmail the Cypriot people by keeping our lands as hostage and in this way force us to accept their terms for a so called "solution" that would suit the Turks and which will be on the expense of the interests of the majority of Cypriots.

[Piratis]

Let's say there are 40.000 TC troops in North, wouldn't you consider it illegal and ask TCs to abolish it? I'm 100% sure that you would...

It's a nonsense to ask withdrawal of Turkish troops before a lasting solution found to Cyprus problem...

Of course it would be illegal. TCs, Turks or Chinese, NOBODY has the right to violate the sovereignty of RoC, occupy lands which belong to GCs by over 80% and ethnically cleanse people.

If such thing was legal then the Greeks of Turkey with the support of Greek troops would have the legal right to do the same in Turkey.

[insan]

Let's say there are 40.000 TC troops in North, wouldn't you consider it illegal and ask TCs to abolish it? I'm 100% sure that you would...

It's a nonsense to ask withdrawal of Turkish troops before a lasting solution found to Cyprus problem...

Of course it would be illegal. TCs, Turks or Chinese, NOBODY has the right to violate the sovereignty of RoC, occupy lands which belong to GCs by over 80% and ethnically cleanse people.

If such thing was legal then the Greeks of Turkey with the support of Greek troops would have the legal right to do the same in Turkey.

From the establishment of the RoC up until 1967, even afterwards; it was Makarios and all who supported him and agreed with his ideals pursueing Enosis policy that if it happened would have violated the sovereignity of the RoC and led the "ethnic cleansing" of TCs.... If "we" haven't "etnically cleansed" "you"; "you" would have "ethnically cleansed" us... "you" gambled and lost...

[Piratis]

Let's say there are 40.000 TC troops in North, wouldn't you consider it illegal and ask TCs to abolish it? I'm 100% sure that you would...

It's a nonsense to ask withdrawal of Turkish troops before a lasting solution found to Cyprus problem...

Of course it would be illegal. TCs, Turks or Chinese, NOBODY has the right to violate the sovereignty of RoC, occupy lands which belong to GCs by over 80% and ethnically cleanse people.

If such thing was legal then the Greeks of Turkey with the support of Greek troops would have the legal right to do the same in Turkey.

From the establishment of the RoC up until 1967, even afterwards; it was Makarios and all who supported him and agreed with his ideals pursueing Enosis policy that if it happened would have violated the sovereignity of the RoC and led the "ethnic cleansing" of TCs.... If "we" haven't "etnically cleansed" "you"; "you" would have "ethnically cleansed" us... "you" gambled and lost...

Yet more imaginary stories to excuse your actual crimes

But you also make another mistake: We didn't lose. You are the bigger losers so far, and this war you started will not end until you are utterly defeated and Cyprus is fully liberated.

[insan]

Let's say there are 40.000 TC troops in North, wouldn't you consider it illegal and ask TCs to abolish it? I'm 100% sure that you would...

It's a nonsense to ask withdrawal of Turkish troops before a lasting solution found to Cyprus problem...

Of course it would be illegal. TCs, Turks or Chinese, NOBODY has the right to violate the sovereignty of RoC, occupy lands which belong to GCs by over 80% and ethnically cleanse people.

If such thing was legal then the Greeks of Turkey with the support of Greek troops would have the legal right to do the same in Turkey.

From the establishment of the RoC up until 1967, even afterwards; it was Makarios and all who supported him and agreed with his ideals pursueing Enosis policy that if it happened would have violated the sovereignity of the RoC and led the "ethnic cleansing" of TCs.... If "we" haven't "etnically cleansed" "you"; "you" would have "ethnically cleansed" us... "you" gambled and lost...

Yet more imaginary stories to excuse your actual crimes

But you also make another mistake: We didn't lose. You are the bigger losers so far, and this war you started will not end until you are utterly defeated and Cyprus is fully liberated.

"Imaginary stories"? You don't even know about your history...

[Piratis]

Let's say there are 40.000 TC troops in North, wouldn't you consider it illegal and ask TCs to abolish it? I'm 100% sure that you would...

It's a nonsense to ask withdrawal of Turkish troops before a lasting solution found to Cyprus problem...

Of course it would be illegal. TCs, Turks or Chinese, NOBODY has the right to violate the sovereignty of RoC, occupy lands which belong to GCs by over 80% and ethnically cleanse people.

If such thing was legal then the Greeks of Turkey with the support of Greek troops would have the legal right to do the same in Turkey.

From the establishment of the RoC up until 1967, even afterwards; it was Makarios and all who supported him and agreed with his ideals pursueing Enosis policy that if it happened would have violated the sovereignity of the RoC and led the "ethnic cleansing" of TCs.... If "we" haven't "etnically cleansed" "you"; "you" would have "ethnically cleansed" us... "you" gambled and lost...

Yet more imaginary stories to excuse your actual crimes

But you also make another mistake: We didn't lose. You are the bigger losers so far, and this war you started will not end until you are utterly defeated and Cyprus is fully liberated.

"Imaginary stories"? You don't even know about your history...

"ifs" and "would haves" are not "history" of any kind.

The Cypriot people have the right to democratically choose where their island should belong. Just like we could democratically choose to unite with EU, we could also choose to unite with Greece or with China. This was our right that was violated by foreign imperialists.

Uniting Cyprus with Greece did not mean any "ethnic cleansing" of TCs, and this is just imaginary baseless stories you create to excuse the actual ethnic cleansing you committed against us.

[halil]

“ENGAGE – DO YOUR PART FOR PEACE” LAUNCHES MEDIA CAMPAIGN

“ENGAGE – Do Your Part for Peace” launched a media campaign yesterday to coincide with the International Day of Peace. The “ENGAGE – Do Your Part for Peace” project is currently being implementing by the Management Centre and the NGO Support Centre in South Cyprus and supported by the United Nations Development Programme.

Speaking at an event organized to promote the new campaign, the Director of the Management Centre Bülent Kanol provided detailed information about the new campaign which aims to attract more support to the project.

The overall aim of the project is to strengthen the capacity of civil society and to provide a vehicle for members of the two communities to play a role in the reconciliation process.

[Viewpoint]

Well said insan they can ignore it and make excuses but the bully got bullied thats why no one is helping the GCs get back their 'rights'.