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[denizaksulu]

Cyprus is a Greek island and it should have been part of the Greek state in the first place since this is what the majority of Cypriots wanted. The only reason that this didn't happen is that foreign imperialists with their troops and their settlers used force and blackmail to prevent the Cypriot people from achieving their right of self-determination and uniting, if we wanted, with the rest of Greece.

Beyond that, the Greek troops did not make any "invasion" but were part of a coup, like the many coups that happened in Turkey. Maybe another country would be excused to invade Turkey and ethnically cleanse 1/3rd of its population using one of the many coups that happened in Turkey as an excuse? That is one of the lamest excuses ever.

Invasions were those made by the Turks. Both in their first invasion in 1570 when they butchered 20.000 Cypriots in Nicosia alone and then occupied Cyprus for 3+ centuries against the will of the Cypriot people, and their second invasion in 1974 when they killed 1000s of Cypriots, ethnically cleansed the native Cypriots population from 1/3rd of Cyprus and replaced them with yet more Turkish settlers.

I am Cypriot.

Yes, my mother is Greek Cypriot, my cousin is Greek Cypriot, and I have a Turkish-Cypriot friend who I keep in touch with over FB. My nationality is English Cypriot, I have some Swedish-Cypriot friends and a French-Cypriot friend.

There are German Cypriots, and no doubt even a few Nigerian Cypriots around.

Ethnic minorities exist everywhere. So what exactly is your point?

There are a ton of ethnic minorities in London. Did London stop being English because minorities which are not English live there?

By the way, there is no such thing as "English Cypriot" nationality

I'm happy that you are proud of your Greek lineage, but don't keep beating me over the head with it - it's a sign of insecurity.

How did I "beat you" with anything when my reply above was not even directed to you?

Just as you'd like to give us minority status is it not our right to demand our own sovereignty? Given that we're the "Ottoman remnants" and are used to rule rather than be ruled, lead rather than be led it is perfectly natural to desire this.

You are an ethnic minority because you are the 18%. How is the fact that you ruled Cyprus and oppressed the Cypriot people for centuries give you any right for sovereignty over lands where we are the majority of over 80%???

The whites of South Africa were thinking in a similar way like you until a few years ago. They thought that just because they ruled and they oppressed the native people for centuries that this gave them the right to continue to violate the human and democratic rights of the majority of the population. Fortunately Apartheid is over in SA after many centuries of struggle by the majority of the population. We will never give up and one day, sooner or later, we will also manage to get rid of the racism and discriminations you impose on Cyprus for centuries.

Piratis, you talk as if it was the TCs who oppressed the Cypriots. It was the Ottoman administration in Konstaniniyye/Istanbul NOT the TC's. Perhaps you would like to re-phrase your accusation. The Muslims suffered together with their Christian brothers under the Porte.

Thank you

It is your friend Alan who tried to claim that TCs are not an ethnic minority but they should have their own sovereignty because they "are used to rule rather than be ruled".

Thats another fine mess 'my friend' got me into. Who is he anyway? I better read him up.

[AlanwithoneL]

Cyprus is a Greek island and it should have been part of the Greek state in the first place since this is what the majority of Cypriots wanted. The only reason that this didn't happen is that foreign imperialists with their troops and their settlers used force and blackmail to prevent the Cypriot people from achieving their right of self-determination and uniting, if we wanted, with the rest of Greece.

Beyond that, the Greek troops did not make any "invasion" but were part of a coup, like the many coups that happened in Turkey. Maybe another country would be excused to invade Turkey and ethnically cleanse 1/3rd of its population using one of the many coups that happened in Turkey as an excuse? That is one of the lamest excuses ever.

Invasions were those made by the Turks. Both in their first invasion in 1570 when they butchered 20.000 Cypriots in Nicosia alone and then occupied Cyprus for 3+ centuries against the will of the Cypriot people, and their second invasion in 1974 when they killed 1000s of Cypriots, ethnically cleansed the native Cypriots population from 1/3rd of Cyprus and replaced them with yet more Turkish settlers.

I am Cypriot.

Yes, my mother is Greek Cypriot, my cousin is Greek Cypriot, and I have a Turkish-Cypriot friend who I keep in touch with over FB. My nationality is English Cypriot, I have some Swedish-Cypriot friends and a French-Cypriot friend.

There are German Cypriots, and no doubt even a few Nigerian Cypriots around.

Ethnic minorities exist everywhere. So what exactly is your point?

There are a ton of ethnic minorities in London. Did London stop being English because minorities which are not English live there?

By the way, there is no such thing as "English Cypriot" nationality

I'm happy that you are proud of your Greek lineage, but don't keep beating me over the head with it - it's a sign of insecurity.

How did I "beat you" with anything when my reply above was not even directed to you?

Just as you'd like to give us minority status is it not our right to demand our own sovereignty? Given that we're the "Ottoman remnants" and are used to rule rather than be ruled, lead rather than be led it is perfectly natural to desire this.

You are an ethnic minority because you are the 18%. How is the fact that you ruled Cyprus and oppressed the Cypriot people for centuries give you any right for sovereignty over lands where we are the majority of over 80%???

The whites of South Africa were thinking in a similar way like you until a few years ago. They thought that just because they ruled and they oppressed the native people for centuries that this gave them the right to continue to violate the human and democratic rights of the majority of the population. Fortunately Apartheid is over in SA after many centuries of struggle by the majority of the population. We will never give up and one day, sooner or later, we will also manage to get rid of the racism and discriminations you impose on Cyprus for centuries.

Piratis, you talk as if it was the TCs who oppressed the Cypriots. It was the Ottoman administration in Konstaniniyye/Istanbul NOT the TC's. Perhaps you would like to re-phrase your accusation. The Muslims suffered together with their Christian brothers under the Porte.

Thank you

It is your friend Alan who tried to claim that TCs are not an ethnic minority but they should have their own sovereignty because they "are used to rule rather than be ruled".

Thats another fine mess 'my friend' got me into. Who is he anyway? I better read him up.

He is a nobody. Insignificant.

[denizaksulu]

Cyprus is a Greek island and it should have been part of the Greek state in the first place since this is what the majority of Cypriots wanted. The only reason that this didn't happen is that foreign imperialists with their troops and their settlers used force and blackmail to prevent the Cypriot people from achieving their right of self-determination and uniting, if we wanted, with the rest of Greece.

Beyond that, the Greek troops did not make any "invasion" but were part of a coup, like the many coups that happened in Turkey. Maybe another country would be excused to invade Turkey and ethnically cleanse 1/3rd of its population using one of the many coups that happened in Turkey as an excuse? That is one of the lamest excuses ever.

Invasions were those made by the Turks. Both in their first invasion in 1570 when they butchered 20.000 Cypriots in Nicosia alone and then occupied Cyprus for 3+ centuries against the will of the Cypriot people, and their second invasion in 1974 when they killed 1000s of Cypriots, ethnically cleansed the native Cypriots population from 1/3rd of Cyprus and replaced them with yet more Turkish settlers.

I am Cypriot.

Yes, my mother is Greek Cypriot, my cousin is Greek Cypriot, and I have a Turkish-Cypriot friend who I keep in touch with over FB. My nationality is English Cypriot, I have some Swedish-Cypriot friends and a French-Cypriot friend.

There are German Cypriots, and no doubt even a few Nigerian Cypriots around.

Ethnic minorities exist everywhere. So what exactly is your point?

There are a ton of ethnic minorities in London. Did London stop being English because minorities which are not English live there?

By the way, there is no such thing as "English Cypriot" nationality

I'm happy that you are proud of your Greek lineage, but don't keep beating me over the head with it - it's a sign of insecurity.

How did I "beat you" with anything when my reply above was not even directed to you?

Just as you'd like to give us minority status is it not our right to demand our own sovereignty? Given that we're the "Ottoman remnants" and are used to rule rather than be ruled, lead rather than be led it is perfectly natural to desire this.

You are an ethnic minority because you are the 18%. How is the fact that you ruled Cyprus and oppressed the Cypriot people for centuries give you any right for sovereignty over lands where we are the majority of over 80%???

The whites of South Africa were thinking in a similar way like you until a few years ago. They thought that just because they ruled and they oppressed the native people for centuries that this gave them the right to continue to violate the human and democratic rights of the majority of the population. Fortunately Apartheid is over in SA after many centuries of struggle by the majority of the population. We will never give up and one day, sooner or later, we will also manage to get rid of the racism and discriminations you impose on Cyprus for centuries.

Piratis, you talk as if it was the TCs who oppressed the Cypriots. It was the Ottoman administration in Konstaniniyye/Istanbul NOT the TC's. Perhaps you would like to re-phrase your accusation. The Muslims suffered together with their Christian brothers under the Porte.

Thank you

It is your friend Alan who tried to claim that TCs are not an ethnic minority but they should have their own sovereignty because they "are used to rule rather than be ruled".

Thats another fine mess 'my friend' got me into. Who is he anyway? I better read him up.

He is a nobody. Insignificant.

Hi Alan, I am Deniz. Welcome here and its a pleasure meeting you.

Now we are familiar.

[AlanwithoneL]

Cyprus is a Greek island and it should have been part of the Greek state in the first place since this is what the majority of Cypriots wanted. The only reason that this didn't happen is that foreign imperialists with their troops and their settlers used force and blackmail to prevent the Cypriot people from achieving their right of self-determination and uniting, if we wanted, with the rest of Greece.

Beyond that, the Greek troops did not make any "invasion" but were part of a coup, like the many coups that happened in Turkey. Maybe another country would be excused to invade Turkey and ethnically cleanse 1/3rd of its population using one of the many coups that happened in Turkey as an excuse? That is one of the lamest excuses ever.

Invasions were those made by the Turks. Both in their first invasion in 1570 when they butchered 20.000 Cypriots in Nicosia alone and then occupied Cyprus for 3+ centuries against the will of the Cypriot people, and their second invasion in 1974 when they killed 1000s of Cypriots, ethnically cleansed the native Cypriots population from 1/3rd of Cyprus and replaced them with yet more Turkish settlers.

I am Cypriot.

Yes, my mother is Greek Cypriot, my cousin is Greek Cypriot, and I have a Turkish-Cypriot friend who I keep in touch with over FB. My nationality is English Cypriot, I have some Swedish-Cypriot friends and a French-Cypriot friend.

There are German Cypriots, and no doubt even a few Nigerian Cypriots around.

Ethnic minorities exist everywhere. So what exactly is your point?

There are a ton of ethnic minorities in London. Did London stop being English because minorities which are not English live there?

By the way, there is no such thing as "English Cypriot" nationality

I'm happy that you are proud of your Greek lineage, but don't keep beating me over the head with it - it's a sign of insecurity.

How did I "beat you" with anything when my reply above was not even directed to you?

Just as you'd like to give us minority status is it not our right to demand our own sovereignty? Given that we're the "Ottoman remnants" and are used to rule rather than be ruled, lead rather than be led it is perfectly natural to desire this.

You are an ethnic minority because you are the 18%. How is the fact that you ruled Cyprus and oppressed the Cypriot people for centuries give you any right for sovereignty over lands where we are the majority of over 80%???

The whites of South Africa were thinking in a similar way like you until a few years ago. They thought that just because they ruled and they oppressed the native people for centuries that this gave them the right to continue to violate the human and democratic rights of the majority of the population. Fortunately Apartheid is over in SA after many centuries of struggle by the majority of the population. We will never give up and one day, sooner or later, we will also manage to get rid of the racism and discriminations you impose on Cyprus for centuries.

Piratis, you talk as if it was the TCs who oppressed the Cypriots. It was the Ottoman administration in Konstaniniyye/Istanbul NOT the TC's. Perhaps you would like to re-phrase your accusation. The Muslims suffered together with their Christian brothers under the Porte.

Thank you

It is your friend Alan who tried to claim that TCs are not an ethnic minority but they should have their own sovereignty because they "are used to rule rather than be ruled".

Thats another fine mess 'my friend' got me into. Who is he anyway? I better read him up.

He is a nobody. Insignificant.

Hi Alan, I am Deniz. Welcome here and its a pleasure meeting you.

Now we are familiar.

The pleasure's all mine Sir

[denizaksulu]

Cyprus is a Greek island and it should have been part of the Greek state in the first place since this is what the majority of Cypriots wanted. The only reason that this didn't happen is that foreign imperialists with their troops and their settlers used force and blackmail to prevent the Cypriot people from achieving their right of self-determination and uniting, if we wanted, with the rest of Greece.

Beyond that, the Greek troops did not make any "invasion" but were part of a coup, like the many coups that happened in Turkey. Maybe another country would be excused to invade Turkey and ethnically cleanse 1/3rd of its population using one of the many coups that happened in Turkey as an excuse? That is one of the lamest excuses ever.

Invasions were those made by the Turks. Both in their first invasion in 1570 when they butchered 20.000 Cypriots in Nicosia alone and then occupied Cyprus for 3+ centuries against the will of the Cypriot people, and their second invasion in 1974 when they killed 1000s of Cypriots, ethnically cleansed the native Cypriots population from 1/3rd of Cyprus and replaced them with yet more Turkish settlers.

I am Cypriot.

Yes, my mother is Greek Cypriot, my cousin is Greek Cypriot, and I have a Turkish-Cypriot friend who I keep in touch with over FB. My nationality is English Cypriot, I have some Swedish-Cypriot friends and a French-Cypriot friend.

There are German Cypriots, and no doubt even a few Nigerian Cypriots around.

Ethnic minorities exist everywhere. So what exactly is your point?

There are a ton of ethnic minorities in London. Did London stop being English because minorities which are not English live there?

By the way, there is no such thing as "English Cypriot" nationality

I'm happy that you are proud of your Greek lineage, but don't keep beating me over the head with it - it's a sign of insecurity.

How did I "beat you" with anything when my reply above was not even directed to you?

Just as you'd like to give us minority status is it not our right to demand our own sovereignty? Given that we're the "Ottoman remnants" and are used to rule rather than be ruled, lead rather than be led it is perfectly natural to desire this.

You are an ethnic minority because you are the 18%. How is the fact that you ruled Cyprus and oppressed the Cypriot people for centuries give you any right for sovereignty over lands where we are the majority of over 80%???

The whites of South Africa were thinking in a similar way like you until a few years ago. They thought that just because they ruled and they oppressed the native people for centuries that this gave them the right to continue to violate the human and democratic rights of the majority of the population. Fortunately Apartheid is over in SA after many centuries of struggle by the majority of the population. We will never give up and one day, sooner or later, we will also manage to get rid of the racism and discriminations you impose on Cyprus for centuries.

Piratis, you talk as if it was the TCs who oppressed the Cypriots. It was the Ottoman administration in Konstaniniyye/Istanbul NOT the TC's. Perhaps you would like to re-phrase your accusation. The Muslims suffered together with their Christian brothers under the Porte.

Thank you

It is your friend Alan who tried to claim that TCs are not an ethnic minority but they should have their own sovereignty because they "are used to rule rather than be ruled".

Thats another fine mess 'my friend' got me into. Who is he anyway? I better read him up.

He is a nobody. Insignificant.

Hi Alan, I am Deniz. Welcome here and its a pleasure meeting you.

Now we are familiar.

The pleasure's all mine Sir

Are you trying to teach our GC brothers and sister good manners, Sir?

[AlanwithoneL]

Cyprus is a Greek island and it should have been part of the Greek state in the first place since this is what the majority of Cypriots wanted. The only reason that this didn't happen is that foreign imperialists with their troops and their settlers used force and blackmail to prevent the Cypriot people from achieving their right of self-determination and uniting, if we wanted, with the rest of Greece.

Beyond that, the Greek troops did not make any "invasion" but were part of a coup, like the many coups that happened in Turkey. Maybe another country would be excused to invade Turkey and ethnically cleanse 1/3rd of its population using one of the many coups that happened in Turkey as an excuse? That is one of the lamest excuses ever.

Invasions were those made by the Turks. Both in their first invasion in 1570 when they butchered 20.000 Cypriots in Nicosia alone and then occupied Cyprus for 3+ centuries against the will of the Cypriot people, and their second invasion in 1974 when they killed 1000s of Cypriots, ethnically cleansed the native Cypriots population from 1/3rd of Cyprus and replaced them with yet more Turkish settlers.

I am Cypriot.

Yes, my mother is Greek Cypriot, my cousin is Greek Cypriot, and I have a Turkish-Cypriot friend who I keep in touch with over FB. My nationality is English Cypriot, I have some Swedish-Cypriot friends and a French-Cypriot friend.

There are German Cypriots, and no doubt even a few Nigerian Cypriots around.

Ethnic minorities exist everywhere. So what exactly is your point?

There are a ton of ethnic minorities in London. Did London stop being English because minorities which are not English live there?

By the way, there is no such thing as "English Cypriot" nationality

I'm happy that you are proud of your Greek lineage, but don't keep beating me over the head with it - it's a sign of insecurity.

How did I "beat you" with anything when my reply above was not even directed to you?

Just as you'd like to give us minority status is it not our right to demand our own sovereignty? Given that we're the "Ottoman remnants" and are used to rule rather than be ruled, lead rather than be led it is perfectly natural to desire this.

You are an ethnic minority because you are the 18%. How is the fact that you ruled Cyprus and oppressed the Cypriot people for centuries give you any right for sovereignty over lands where we are the majority of over 80%???

The whites of South Africa were thinking in a similar way like you until a few years ago. They thought that just because they ruled and they oppressed the native people for centuries that this gave them the right to continue to violate the human and democratic rights of the majority of the population. Fortunately Apartheid is over in SA after many centuries of struggle by the majority of the population. We will never give up and one day, sooner or later, we will also manage to get rid of the racism and discriminations you impose on Cyprus for centuries.

Piratis, you talk as if it was the TCs who oppressed the Cypriots. It was the Ottoman administration in Konstaniniyye/Istanbul NOT the TC's. Perhaps you would like to re-phrase your accusation. The Muslims suffered together with their Christian brothers under the Porte.

Thank you

It is your friend Alan who tried to claim that TCs are not an ethnic minority but they should have their own sovereignty because they "are used to rule rather than be ruled".

Thats another fine mess 'my friend' got me into. Who is he anyway? I better read him up.

He is a nobody. Insignificant.

Hi Alan, I am Deniz. Welcome here and its a pleasure meeting you.

Now we are familiar.

The pleasure's all mine Sir

Are you trying to teach our GC brothers and sister good manners, Sir?

Don't you think some of them need it? Thank you for the PM Deniz, I tried replying but it seems I'm not privileged at this moment. Do I need to contact anybody to enable my PM feature?

[Get Real!]

Are you trying to teach our GC brothers and sister good manners, Sir?

A Turk teaching good manners? That’s an oxymoron if I ever did hear one…

[denizaksulu]

Cyprus is a Greek island and it should have been part of the Greek state in the first place since this is what the majority of Cypriots wanted. The only reason that this didn't happen is that foreign imperialists with their troops and their settlers used force and blackmail to prevent the Cypriot people from achieving their right of self-determination and uniting, if we wanted, with the rest of Greece.

Beyond that, the Greek troops did not make any "invasion" but were part of a coup, like the many coups that happened in Turkey. Maybe another country would be excused to invade Turkey and ethnically cleanse 1/3rd of its population using one of the many coups that happened in Turkey as an excuse? That is one of the lamest excuses ever.

Invasions were those made by the Turks. Both in their first invasion in 1570 when they butchered 20.000 Cypriots in Nicosia alone and then occupied Cyprus for 3+ centuries against the will of the Cypriot people, and their second invasion in 1974 when they killed 1000s of Cypriots, ethnically cleansed the native Cypriots population from 1/3rd of Cyprus and replaced them with yet more Turkish settlers.

I am Cypriot.

Yes, my mother is Greek Cypriot, my cousin is Greek Cypriot, and I have a Turkish-Cypriot friend who I keep in touch with over FB. My nationality is English Cypriot, I have some Swedish-Cypriot friends and a French-Cypriot friend.

There are German Cypriots, and no doubt even a few Nigerian Cypriots around.

Ethnic minorities exist everywhere. So what exactly is your point?

There are a ton of ethnic minorities in London. Did London stop being English because minorities which are not English live there?

By the way, there is no such thing as "English Cypriot" nationality

I'm happy that you are proud of your Greek lineage, but don't keep beating me over the head with it - it's a sign of insecurity.

How did I "beat you" with anything when my reply above was not even directed to you?

Just as you'd like to give us minority status is it not our right to demand our own sovereignty? Given that we're the "Ottoman remnants" and are used to rule rather than be ruled, lead rather than be led it is perfectly natural to desire this.

You are an ethnic minority because you are the 18%. How is the fact that you ruled Cyprus and oppressed the Cypriot people for centuries give you any right for sovereignty over lands where we are the majority of over 80%???

The whites of South Africa were thinking in a similar way like you until a few years ago. They thought that just because they ruled and they oppressed the native people for centuries that this gave them the right to continue to violate the human and democratic rights of the majority of the population. Fortunately Apartheid is over in SA after many centuries of struggle by the majority of the population. We will never give up and one day, sooner or later, we will also manage to get rid of the racism and discriminations you impose on Cyprus for centuries.

Piratis, you talk as if it was the TCs who oppressed the Cypriots. It was the Ottoman administration in Konstaniniyye/Istanbul NOT the TC's. Perhaps you would like to re-phrase your accusation. The Muslims suffered together with their Christian brothers under the Porte.

Thank you

It is your friend Alan who tried to claim that TCs are not an ethnic minority but they should have their own sovereignty because they "are used to rule rather than be ruled".

Thats another fine mess 'my friend' got me into. Who is he anyway? I better read him up.

He is a nobody. Insignificant.

Hi Alan, I am Deniz. Welcome here and its a pleasure meeting you.

Now we are familiar.

The pleasure's all mine Sir

Are you trying to teach our GC brothers and sister good manners, Sir?

Don't you think some of them need it? Thank you for the PM Deniz, I tried replying but it seems I'm not privileged at this moment. Do I need to contact anybody to enable my PM feature?

I received it.