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[revolver]

Why don't you ever talk about peace? Why are the posts always about war and hatred and bitterness? Don't you know that you are all individually responsible for communal relations and as long as you decide to remain enemies - you will!

When will you look forwards instead of backwards?

Simple answer to that is, the Turks demand whats not theirs and want to run roughshod over us.

Communal relations start with respecting human and democratic rights, something the Turks know nothing about. When you have 40,000 heavily armed foreign troops pointing guns as you with daily threats from the more powerful country nearby, how can you think of anything else.

Your question(s) should be directed to the Turks not the the GCs.

Thank you very much CBBB, this is the post!
There are full of hatered in this forums and no one speak about peace.
That is why we are stalling around for 36 years without peace.
As a reply from B-25;
No my friend, this question should be forwarded to you GC's as well, beacuse you dont know how much we suuffered from army/ from status quo.
Believe me you dont know. Just read Şener Levent's Politis column to understand little bit.
And yes, let's talk about peace!!!

[Gasman]

There is no peace whilst there is a threat.

No peace of mind maybe (for some).

Every major world power that has (or wants to have) nuclear weapons maintains that it is the threat of nuclear weapons that maintains world peace.

Turkey maintains that it is the presence of their armed forces that has maintained peace in Cyprus for so long.

[Piratis]

Why don't you ever talk about peace? Why are the posts always about war and hatred and bitterness? Don't you know that you are all individually responsible for communal relations and as long as you decide to remain enemies - you will!

When will you look forwards instead of backwards?

Peace is important, but there are things that are worth fighting for, such as freedom, democracy and human rights.

Can you imagine if Hitler after taking most of Europe said: "Hey, lets make peace now and let me keep what I took with my war. Lets look forwards instead of backwards".

There is no hate whatsoever from GCs against those TCs who respect our human and democratic rights and who do not demand the legalization of the results of the Turkish invasion and ethnic cleansing against us. One such TC in the forum is Kikapu. Have a look at the posts in this forum and you will see that it is most TCs who hate Kikapu for not following the official Nazi policies of the Turkish side. If all TCs would be like Kikapu then there would be no hate against TCs from GCs. Unfortunately Kikapu is just one person out of the many TCs that post in this forum. And this proportion seems to reflect the TC population as a whole.

On the other hand the only GCs that TCs do not hate are those who are ready to gift to them what they illegally took from us in 1974 and let them Turkify the north part of our country. Any GCs that insist on freedom, democracy and human rights without any kind of division and forceful segregation and racist discriminations are hated by the TCs.

Therefore in order to have what you suggest we need to either:
1) Have the GCs forget about their homeland in the north Cyprus and let Turks to complete their crime by officially and permanently Turkifying the northern part of Cyprus.

or

2) Have the TCs accept human rights and democracy without racist discriminations and segregation along ethnic lines.

There will be no peace until either of the above happens.

[Piratis]

Turkey maintains that it is the presence of their armed forces that has maintained peace in Cyprus for so long.

What we have now is a cease fire, not peace. The only reason we do not have battles today is because the Cypriot people have chosen to fight for the freedom of their island by political means, even though we had every right to fight the invaders of our country in all ways possible.

[Get Real!]

Why don't you ever talk about peace? Why are the posts always about war and hatred and bitterness? Don't you know that you are all individually responsible for communal relations and as long as you decide to remain enemies - you will!

When will you look forwards instead of backwards?

When Cyprus is liberated from foreign occupation of course! Haven’t you figured out that much?

[halil]

Why don't you ever talk about peace? Why are the posts always about war and hatred and bitterness? Don't you know that you are all individually responsible for communal relations and as long as you decide to remain enemies - you will!

When will you look forwards instead of backwards?

BI-COMMUNAL BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP
Bi-communal Business Partnership Grant Programme, currently worth 192 thousand Euros, has been introduced within the framework of the Economic Interdependence Agreement.
The purpose of the project is to promote awareness on the benefits of economic integration and interdependence between the Turkish Cypriots and the Greek Cypriots. Delivering a speech at the meeting at the Chateau Status Restaurant in the buffer zone, the President of the Cyprus Turkish Chamber of Commerce Günay Çerkez said the aim is to help the achievement of a peaceful solution in Cyprus and allow Turkish Cypriots get their place within the European Union, by bringing the two peoples of the island together for joint economic initiatives.
“It’s a win-win situation” he said.

The President of the Greek Cypriot Chamber of Commerce Manthos Mavromatis, for his part, referred to the symbolic importance of the meeting that coincided with the 21st of September the United Nations Peace Day and said mutual benefits to be gained through bi-communal cooperation among the business communities are a step forward towards peace in Cyprus.

Later, the Project Coordinator Umut Vehit provided information about the project and told the audience that it is aimed at promoting awareness on the benefits of economic integration and interdependence.
A representative from the Greek Cypriot Chamber of Commerce Leonidas Paschalides then informed participants about the filling of the application form.

The project on Bi-communal Business Partnership envisages the organization of joint events and grant programmes to promote economic integration for the two peoples of Cyprus.
The deadline for the submission of applications is the 30th of November.

[Oracle]

You need to read between the lines!

[bill cobbett]

GR ..... gasp....can't breathe....... started this Apologies thread a few weeks ago...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... c&start=50

Our tissy friends are notable for their qualifications or absence... for instance... Halil.... !!!! where are you on this????????

Nothing to apologise or express regrets for in your perfect Occupied World???

[CyprusNewsReport]

Why don't you ever talk about peace? Why are the posts always about war and hatred and bitterness? Don't you know that you are all individually responsible for communal relations and as long as you decide to remain enemies - you will!

When will you look forwards instead of backwards?

When Cyprus is liberated from foreign occupation of course! Haven’t you figured out that much?

And in the meantime? I repeat, TCs and GCs could work and live together in peace. If Turkey has no support for its dictatorial militaristic policy, then its role in the island's future will be minimised. Its status will become even more like Israel's armed embargo of Gaza, with less of the 'legitimacy' it claims in protecting the TC community.

But that takes a shift in mentality, and tolerance between the communities, and that can only come when we stop hating each other and when the politicians start fostering cooperation between us.

[CyprusNewsReport]

But their threats can only be a threat to peace if we allow it to be.

There is no peace whilst there is a threat.

The world is full of threats, it's our choice whether we allow them to kill our free will and aggressively turn on each other.

so in peace`s name we should be cowards , we should say from now on we need no trouble so we will leave matters as it is !! well it doesnt work that way im afraid you cant ignore unsolved problems cause as long you will live it will always be unsolved and till the problem is need solved there will be no peace !!

and realistically peace is an ideal world and idealism and realism arent the same thing

I only have two words to answer whether peace is idealistic - European Union. After 64 million people died in world war two, it finally knocked some sense into European leaders and they started the EU to make sure such wanton destruction never happened again.

So it's not idealistic to expect peace, it's realistic and more importantly - crucial for our survival.

I'm not ignoring the problems, I'm pointing out that we think in a very polarised way - US and THEM, and this is a limited way to seeing the world. Fresh ideas, new approaches, that's what we need to move ahead and look forward.

I was at the Nicosia District Office this morning and judging from the number of Turkish Cypriots applying for ID Cards and passports, they are not expecting much of an outcome from the present talks. There were also a large number of ID cards waiting to be collected, and the vast majority were for TCs.

Whilst I agree that we should be looking forward, it is very difficult for many people to forget the past.

Yes, very difficult, that's why it's so important to talk about peace. I mean, even reunification might not bring the two communities together, because it could just end up being a kind of plaster on an open wound. What would bring us together is tolerance between us, and remembering what we have in common. Love for our families, our country, our society.