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and the importation of 2000000, Turks into the island if this partition thing becomes legal, what then when they begin coming over....The end of Hellenicm in Cyprus

So what’s stopping the Hellenic military from coming to the rescue of these doomed Hellenes?

Think first, open mouth later.

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Is that 'word association' to "mouth"?

Where does GR! think Cyprus would have been without Greece's help over the last few decades?

Certainly, Greece would not be in nearly as much financial mess, and facing enemies it currently does, if it did not fight Cyprus' corner so much.

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Is that 'word association' to "mouth"?

Where does GR! think Cyprus would have been without Greece's help over the last few decades?

Certainly, Greece would not be in nearly as much financial mess, and facing enemies it currently does, if it did not fight Cyprus' corner so much.

What, you mean things like looking after our S300s for us?

[bigOz]

Why is everyone so alarmed on the prospect of partition under the guise of Bizonality and Bicommunality?

Whichever way this thing goes, either via formal settlement or status quo, the outcome will be partition but probably never actually called such.

Since that is the inevitable outcome the point is to manage it so it presents the least possible chance of trouble in the future. Simple, easily policed and confusion-proof demarcation lines between the two regions are vitally important. The convoluted lines of the Annan plan are nonsense. An equitable division of territory and the coast line is a prerequisite.

Each region must be contiguous so that no part of it is cut off from the rest by other territory.

The British bases are the next flash point. They must be dealt with now, not left for later.

The above is vital because within five years from the settelement the TCs community will break away and demand independence. Having won formal acceptance of two elements of statehood: defined territory and national identity, the third, international recognition will be easily forthcoming. THe split will come as soon as the TCs are assured of their continued participation in the EU as a separate entity.

We are collectively fooling ourselved if we think that the TCs will participate in this BBF entity for ever with no problems. So let us be realistic about this and plan to minimise the chances of a repeat of 1974 but this time in the south.

If that happens, any TC state will become a full Turkish province within 12 months wether the TCs like it or not.

and the importation of 2000000, Turks into the island if this partition thing becomes legal, what then when they begin coming over....The end of Hellenicm in Cyprus

Hellenism in Cyprus was over many moons ago!
Attempts to bring it back has brought Cyprus to the state it is in today!

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Bollocks!

[Nikitas]

Wyomein Cowboy- "and the importation of 2000000, Turks into the island if this partition thing becomes legal, what then when they begin coming over....The end of Hellenicm in Cyprus "

Big Oz- "Hellenism in Cyprus was over many moons ago!
Attempts to bring it back has brought Cyprus to the state it is in today!"

Well, with formal partition and an international frontier you can keep the 200 000 OUT, with BBF you are obliged to let them IN and not just in the land, but also in the government.

Hellenism is alive and well in Cyprus for one simple reason- it is far away from Athens. The strength of Hellenism is in inverse proportion to the distance from the center of Athens. Take this as a distillation of experience of one who has lived in Athens for 35 years, works in the Greek media and is of Cypriot and Greek (island) ancestry.

[bigOz]

Wyomein Cowboy- "and the importation of 2000000, Turks into the island if this partition thing becomes legal, what then when they begin coming over....The end of Hellenicm in Cyprus "

Big Oz- "Hellenism in Cyprus was over many moons ago!
Attempts to bring it back has brought Cyprus to the state it is in today!"

Well, with formal partition and an international frontier you can keep the 200 000 OUT, with BBF you are obliged to let them IN and not just in the land, but also in the government.

Hellenism is alive and well in Cyprus for one simple reason- it is far away from Athens. The strength of Hellenism is in inverse proportion to the distance from the center of Athens. Take this as a distillation of experience of one who has lived in Athens for 35 years, works in the Greek media and is of Cypriot and Greek (island) ancestry.

But that is true for every national who is living away from home! In this case all Cypriots (including myself) miss Cyprus and not Turkey or Greece when they have to reside abroad! I really do not see where the Hellenism comes into it?

The more everyone shouts (wrongly) that this is a Greek island, the more difficult or impossible it will be to find a solution to Cyprus problem. Can someone explain or argue with me, how the hell and when the fluck Cyprus will become a part of Greece or even a Greek island!

Show or prove that to me and I shall move off to Alaska tomorrow!

[bigOz]

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Bollocks!

Same dangling thingymingies aren't they?