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Eroglu: ‘treated with contempt’

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby humanist » Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:41 pm

one that doesn't really want unification ... he wants partition and this is a hope of cementing it.
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Postby wyoming cowboy » Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:43 pm

Mr. Eroglu neglected to mention that Gc would be restricted from doing business in the Tc state nor be able to buy land or have equal rights, A British German or Zulu could buy and have equal rights but a Gc in his own island would not be able to work in the Tc state or even start a business, let alone be able to voice his/her opinion against the Tc state. Why wouldn't Eroglu mention the violations of civil and human rights thats included in his property proposals......Why doesnt Christofias bring these points up to counter and challenge the Turk regime??
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Postby Oracle » Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:55 pm

Imperialist Eroglu supports racist Apartheid.

(He probably thinks that's some kind of respected title!)
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Postby Gasman » Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:04 am

A British German or Zulu could buy and have equal rights but a Gc in his own island would not be able to work in the Tc state or even start a business, let alone be able to voice his/her opinion against the Tc state.


Equal with ...??

(You've obviously not been keeping up to date with all the complaints by foreign purchasers about the way they are discriminated against and treated in the 'TRNC')

I think you will find no group or individual is totally free to demonstrate or voice their opinion against the 'TRNC' (if that's what you meant by 'Tc state')

Or is 'Tc State' what you assume the now 'TRNC' will be called after any settlement is reached? Perhaps you know something?
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Postby humanist » Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:13 pm

well if the British or other foreigners don't feel they are treated equally as TC's then why do they invest thre
they should take their business elsewhere ....
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Postby CyprusNewsReport » Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:25 pm

Sotos wrote:
Bananiot wrote:GR, the poor fellow, has the illusion that it is possible to solve the Cyprus issue on the basis of "justice and international law". This kind of thinking is totally wrong, because:

a. As history and international diplomacy teach us, disputes and crisises between countries and nations are always tackled and fixed on the basis of strategic interests and the balance of power and never on the basis of the principles of justice.

b. The principles of justice are never static, constant or absolute. On the contrary, they are subject to interpretations which are constantly changing too, according to the strategic and political facts that exist at the time the effort is made at solving the problem.


Cyprus problem can only be solved with war when that becomes possible. Anybody that thinks that Cyprus can be liberated in another way is stupid.


War is even more stupid. Death, destruction and decades of recovery before society gets back to normal. Inviting more war into Cyprus is just suicidal, haven't we suffered enough?
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Postby humanist » Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:47 am

I agree war is not the way to resolve the Cypro. The international community and particularly the UN needs to implement all resolutions through pressure upon Turkey. They can do this through economic embargoes.
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Postby Nikitas » Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:06 pm

The Turks know full well that they cannot extinguish GC property rights in the north. THey also know that they cannot afford, either in terms of land exchanges or money, to come up with a decent settlement scheme. Not being able to buy or exchange, and seeing that their confiscation via "nationalisation" won't cut it in the EU and in the Council of Europe, they now come up with hair brained "co-development" schemes.

Just look at the irony of the side that has pursues partition and division since 1950, now proposing setting up the Property Development Corporation, to participate in projects in the south.

We sit listening to this madness in these talks and have to suffer the added insults of Turkish FM Davutoglu that we are the side that does not want peace.
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:31 pm

Nikitas wrote:The Turks know full well that they cannot extinguish GC property rights in the north. THey also know that they cannot afford, either in terms of land exchanges or money, to come up with a decent settlement scheme. Not being able to buy or exchange, and seeing that their confiscation via "nationalisation" won't cut it in the EU and in the Council of Europe, they now come up with hair brained "co-development" schemes.

Just look at the irony of the side that has pursues partition and division since 1950, now proposing setting up the Property Development Corporation, to participate in projects in the south.

We sit listening to this madness in these talks and have to suffer the added insults of Turkish FM Davutoglu that we are the side that does not want peace.


I'm surprised Turkey has not yet offered to "develop" the oil fields off the southern coast of Cyprus, to drill and bring the oil up from the seabed to compensate the GC refugees for their property in the north with the money from selling the oil to the RoC.! :lol:

Perhaps that's plan "B", after this ridiculous PDC scheme gets flushed down the toilet by the RoC.! :lol:
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Postby insan » Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:39 pm

wyoming cowboy wrote:Mr. Eroglu neglected to mention that Gc would be restricted from doing business in the Tc state nor be able to buy land or have equal rights, A British German or Zulu could buy and have equal rights but a Gc in his own island would not be able to work in the Tc state or even start a business, let alone be able to voice his/her opinion against the Tc state. Why wouldn't Eroglu mention the violations of civil and human rights thats included in his property proposals......Why doesnt Christofias bring these points up to counter and challenge the Turk regime??


Where did you get your news, Talisker? Everyone would be able to buy or sell, do business or anything in TC constituents state as long as TC interests not affected negatively... you are forgeting that in every democracy, where one's rights ends; the rights of other's start...
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