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GREEK CYPRIOT OMBUDSMAN “END DISCRIMINATION AGAINST TURKISH CYPRIOTS”

Greek Cypriot Ombudsman Iliana Nikolau has called on the Greek Cypriot Administration to put an end to its ethnic discrimination against the Turkish Cypriots over their property-related demands in South Cyprus. According to the Greek Cypriot press, the Ombudsman reached the conclusion that the constitutional rights of property is being restricted for Turkish Cypriots after evaluating the complaints brought by two TC's about their properties in the South.
The Greek Cypriot Ombudsman Iliana Nikolau called for the removal of the legislation that was introduced in South Cyprus after 1963, which brought restrictions on property rights of Turkish Cypriots on the grounds of public safety.

OK, so we have to lift the resrictions because two TCs are grumbling, someone need to tell this pathetic creature of an ombudsman there are also 200,000 GCs grumbling and I don't see anyone calling on the Turkey administration to sort that. Makes you wonder.

Ain't E.U membership great

This is not the EU talking, this is idiots on our side who wish to try and be clever. May they burn in hell.

[Nikitas]

Halil,

The Ombudsman reported on the application of a 1970 law which restricted the ability of TCs to deal with their property without approval from the Minister of the Interior. Its wrongful application, according to the Ombudsman, refers to the properties belonging to TCs who either never left the RoC, or never resided in TRNC dure to pre 1974 emigration.

The Ombudsman called for a reassessment of the 1970 law in regard to these two categories of TCs.

And now we have established that SOMETHING is being done in the RoC about the hardship of TC landowners, please tell us what is happening regarding the same subject in the north. We are all ears.

[Viewpoint]

Halil,

The Ombudsman reported on the application of a 1970 law which restricted the ability of TCs to deal with their property without approval from the Minister of the Interior. Its wrongful application, according to the Ombudsman, refers to the properties belonging to TCs who either never left the RoC, or never resided in TRNC dure to pre 1974 emigration.

The Ombudsman called for a reassessment of the 1970 law in regard to these two categories of TCs.

And now we have established that SOMETHING is being done in the RoC about the hardship of TC landowners, please tell us what is happening regarding the same subject in the north. We are all ears.

Have you heard of the IPC rubber stamped by the ECHR? you dont even have to reside in the TRNC for 6 months in order to apply to the committee.

[CBBB]

Halil,

The Ombudsman reported on the application of a 1970 law which restricted the ability of TCs to deal with their property without approval from the Minister of the Interior. Its wrongful application, according to the Ombudsman, refers to the properties belonging to TCs who either never left the RoC, or never resided in TRNC dure to pre 1974 emigration.

The Ombudsman called for a reassessment of the 1970 law in regard to these two categories of TCs.

And now we have established that SOMETHING is being done in the RoC about the hardship of TC landowners, please tell us what is happening regarding the same subject in the north. We are all ears.

Have you heard of the IPC rubber stamped by the ECHR? you dont even have to reside in the TRNC for 6 months in order to apply to the committee.

The six month residence is a small inconvenience when you will have your property returned, compared to being offered compensation well below the market rate, having to pay a backhander to get anywhere, and then waiting in vain to receive the pittance you have been awarded!

[Nikitas]

VP,

You are being silly again. I am disappointed in you!

The RoC problem is that the TC residents cannot deal with their land without prior approval of the Minister of the Interior. NOONE IS FORCING THEM TO SELL OR DISPOSE OF THEIR LAND therefore there is no similarity with the property commission WHATSOEVER!

The desired goal here is to change the 1970 law and TCs residing in the RoC can buy, sell, donate and otherwise do what they want with their land without prior permission.

Now we cleared that up, tell us please about the restrictions of Karpasia GC residents when it comes to bequeathing their land to their relatives. Let me save you the trouble- THEY CANNOT DO IT.

[Issy1956]

Nikitas,
The difference being that the ROC is supposed to be the government (a EU one at that) of all Cypriots -that means treating all its citizens equally and the TRNC an illegal entity. If it treats its TC citizens this way its no different to the TRNC in that is represents only the interest of its own ethnic community. Yes I agree that the owners of Karpasia are wrongly done by and suffer an injustice but two wrongs dont make a right.
Hope this clears your confusion between a government of all the people and a GC administration-you have to decide what you are.

Issy

[Nikitas]

Issy, the discriminiatory practice of the RoC touches the dealings of the property in the area of transfer and aquisition and only to the extent that these require prior approval of the Minister of the Interior.

In Karpasia the practice is an outright violation of ALL property dealings. The difference is plain to see and speaks volumes about the underlying thinking.

[Issy1956]

Nikitas,
I do not dispute the injustice being done to the owners of all GC property in the north. I agree with you on that. However the ROC cannot operate discriminatory practices at any level against any of its citizens and claim to represent them at the same time. The standards set for a fully functioning democracy as the ROC claims to be and an illegal break away state as you say the TRNC is are not the same. I am sure you can see that and it is in the interest of the ROC to be seen to treat all their citizens equally-whatever the provocations and actions of the TRNC. If they dont then the ROC and TRNC are mere representatives of their respective communities.

Issy

[halil]

Eroglu’s Special Representative Kudret Özersay has said that the Greek Cypriot leader Demetris Christofias’ latest statements concerning the Turkish Side’s proposals on property did not reflect the Greek Cypriot Side’s true stance at the negotiating table. He said that domestic politics could be behind the Greek Cypriot leader’s statements claiming that a settlement was not possible with the latest Turkish Side’s proposals.

Özersay will meet with his Greek Cypriot counterpart Yakovou today and tomorrow for discussions on property.

Evaluating the latest stage reached in the negotiations process on Bayrak television today, Özersay described the Greek Cypriot leader’s latest statement as a pessimistic stance.

He said that the Turkish Side too was not very happy with the Greek Cypriot Side’s proposals but that it was not possible for both sides to place all their demands on the negotiating table.

Explaining that the Turkish Side’s proposals which were carefully prepared with a certain degree of flexibility received the support of international actors, Özersay said that either domestic political concerns or his upcoming address at the UN General Assembly were the reason for Christofias’ statement.

“We don’t find this very right. Both sides need to be flexible and show good will in order to achieve progress on the proposals tabled at the meetings” he said.

He also said that despite the Greek Cypriot Side’s negative statements on the proposals, the Turkish Side’s perception was different.

“Looking at the questions asked by Christofias at the last meeting, it is possible to say that the Greek Cypriot Side is open to discuss the proposals and to enter a give and take process. It seems he was interested. In any case if he wasn’t, he would have just criticized the proposals” he added.

[Jerry]

Eroglu’s Special Representative Kudret Özersay has said that the Greek Cypriot leader Demetris Christofias’ latest statements concerning the Turkish Side’s proposals on property did not reflect the Greek Cypriot Side’s true stance at the negotiating table. He said that domestic politics could be behind the Greek Cypriot leader’s statements claiming that a settlement was not possible with the latest Turkish Side’s proposals.

Özersay will meet with his Greek Cypriot counterpart Yakovou today and tomorrow for discussions on property.

Evaluating the latest stage reached in the negotiations process on Bayrak television today, Özersay described the Greek Cypriot leader’s latest statement as a pessimistic stance.

He said that the Turkish Side too was not very happy with the Greek Cypriot Side’s proposals but that it was not possible for both sides to place all their demands on the negotiating table.

Explaining that the Turkish Side’s proposals which were carefully prepared with a certain degree of flexibility received the support of international actors, Özersay said that either domestic political concerns or his upcoming address at the UN General Assembly were the reason for Christofias’ statement.

“We don’t find this very right. Both sides need to be flexible and show good will in order to achieve progress on the proposals tabled at the meetings” he said.

He also said that despite the Greek Cypriot Side’s negative statements on the proposals, the Turkish Side’s perception was different.

“Looking at the questions asked by Christofias at the last meeting, it is possible to say that the Greek Cypriot Side is open to discuss the proposals and to enter a give and take process. It seems he was interested. In any case if he wasn’t, he would have just criticized the proposals” he added.

Well that's really interesting Halil, did Kudret Özersay explain how the illegal sale of Greek Cypriot property in the "trnc" was going to help solve the Cyprus problem? Perhaps you can tell us which "international actors" endorse the sale of GC property.