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Too many sick Turkish people in Cyprus.

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Postby shahmaran » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:44 pm

annaka wrote:My memory of Denktash's warning at that time was that something like up to a five year prison sentence could be imposed on any Turkish Cypriot being in possession of an ROC passport.

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Rubbish!

What year was that?
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:53 pm

annaka wrote:My memory of Denktash's warning at that time was that something like up to a five year prison sentence could be imposed on any Turkish Cypriot being in possession of an ROC passport.

Annaka.


Sounds like the mighty GC myth machine in action again.
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Postby annaka » Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:16 pm

By George Psyllides Published on February 24, 2010



FREE HEALTH care to Turkish Cypriots in the government-controlled areas between 2003 and 2009 has cost the state some €32 million, lawmakers heard yesterday.
During that time there were 92,569 visits by Turkish Cypriots to state hospitals and other healthcare institutions such as the Bank of Cyprus Oncology Centre, according to health ministry figures.
Watchdog Committee chairman, DISY deputy Giorgos Georgiou said there was no disagreement with providing healthcare to Turkish Cypriots but stressed that there should be egalitarianism.
Turkish Cypriots living in the occupied-north can enjoy free health care in the south without meeting the same income-related criteria their Greek Cypriot compatriots are obliged to fulfil.
By law, those eligible for free healthcare must earn under €12,000 a year and must be able to prove it by presenting social insurance and income tax.
But that does not apply to Turkish Cypriots who must only present a Republic of Cyprus identity card or passport in order to be issued with a healthcare card, the committee heard.
It was a political decision to allow this, initially taken in April 2003 – when movement restrictions between the two divided communities were lifted.
The decision was updated twice since – in May 2003 and June 2005.
A health ministry official however denied suggestions that Turkish Cypriot patients were also given priority.
“This is not happening,” Kypros Manoulos told lawmakers. “People have to wait their turn.”
The committee discussed ways of checking who receives healthcare cards from the Turkish Cypriot population but it emerged that it entails accepting documents issued by the breakaway state.
Lawamkers heard that district administrations already accept ‘TRNC’ documents in order to issue identity cards.
“Let us not turn the blind eye. These are accepted,” said EDEK deputy Giorgos Varnava.
Manoulos said it would not be too hard to check Turkish Cypriots who work in the south. As for the rest: “I wonder if we should send them to get a breakaway state document,” Manoulos added.
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Postby EPSILON » Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:30 pm

shahmaran wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Given that hardly any “Turkish Cypriots” exist anymore and that those left are overwhelmingly outnumbered by God knows what, I see no reason for the roadblocks to remain open. Sealing off all entry points would stop all the illegal activities leaking in.


Could you possibly enlighten me on how these "illegals" actually get in and make their way to and through your health system, while being illegal?


Ask our politicians, we do not know.
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Postby EPSILON » Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:32 pm

annaka wrote:By George Psyllides Published on February 24, 2010



FREE HEALTH care to Turkish Cypriots in the government-controlled areas between 2003 and 2009 has cost the state some €32 million, lawmakers heard yesterday.
During that time there were 92,569 visits by Turkish Cypriots to state hospitals and other healthcare institutions such as the Bank of Cyprus Oncology Centre, according to health ministry figures.
Watchdog Committee chairman, DISY deputy Giorgos Georgiou said there was no disagreement with providing healthcare to Turkish Cypriots but stressed that there should be egalitarianism.
Turkish Cypriots living in the occupied-north can enjoy free health care in the south without meeting the same income-related criteria their Greek Cypriot compatriots are obliged to fulfil.
By law, those eligible for free healthcare must earn under €12,000 a year and must be able to prove it by presenting social insurance and income tax.
But that does not apply to Turkish Cypriots who must only present a Republic of Cyprus identity card or passport in order to be issued with a healthcare card, the committee heard.
It was a political decision to allow this, initially taken in April 2003 – when movement restrictions between the two divided communities were lifted.
The decision was updated twice since – in May 2003 and June 2005.
A health ministry official however denied suggestions that Turkish Cypriot patients were also given priority.
“This is not happening,” Kypros Manoulos told lawmakers. “People have to wait their turn.”
The committee discussed ways of checking who receives healthcare cards from the Turkish Cypriot population but it emerged that it entails accepting documents issued by the breakaway state.
Lawamkers heard that district administrations already accept ‘TRNC’ documents in order to issue identity cards.
“Let us not turn the blind eye. These are accepted,” said EDEK deputy Giorgos Varnava.
Manoulos said it would not be too hard to check Turkish Cypriots who work in the south. As for the rest: “I wonder if we should send them to get a breakaway state document,” Manoulos added.


Maybe is time ROC to consider the case to open a military hospital offering medical attendance (of course free) to occupation army staff.
-personally i will not be surprised.
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Postby insan » Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:41 pm

shahmaran wrote:
annaka wrote:My memory of Denktash's warning at that time was that something like up to a five year prison sentence could be imposed on any Turkish Cypriot being in possession of an ROC passport.

Annaka.


Rubbish!

What year was that?


Shahmaran... it is true that Denktaş was against TCs getting the passports of the so-called RoC... Actually he was against TCs getting the passports of the so-called RoC that TRNC and overwhelming majority of TCs don't recognize...

The fact was TCs getting the passports of RoC not the passports of the so-called RoC that we don't recognize... The concern of Denktash was TCs getting RoC passports would be used as a propaganda by GC leadership as if Turkey and TRNC recognized the so-called RoC... Infact, GC leadership abused the issue and made propaganda as if TCs and Turkey recognized the so-called RoC...

It is also true that UBP drafted a law on this issue which proposed 2 year of imprisonment to TRNC citizens getting the passports of the countries which TRNC didn't recognize... However, then the TC political opposition parties harshly reacted and the drafted bill rejected... Democracy won and TCs continued getting the RoC passports for especially traveling easily; not because they recognized the so-called RoC...
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Postby shahmaran » Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:14 pm

Exactly my point, nothing was in effect.
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Postby Me Ed » Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:27 pm

That's the funniest thing I've read for ages and I believe there's a medical term for this condition:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia

So which RoC do TCs get their free health care from?

Is it the so-called RoC or the RoC?
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:29 pm

insan wrote:The fact was TCs getting the passports of RoC not the passports of the so-called RoC that we don't recognize...

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Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:30 pm

shahmaran wrote:Exactly my point, nothing was in effect.

Egg on your face? :lol:
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