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[Bananiot]

The Cyprus Mail must be on the right truck, if the GR's of this forum and the rest of the anti solution bigots are complaining.

[halil]

TC666, are you saying that people like GR are the real Greek Cypriots? If this is what you are saying, you are completely wrong and perhaps you are just looking for excuses to play down the efforts made for solution. GR's are found on both sides of the divide and it is these people that have destroyed Cyprus.

YES, GR's are found on both sides

They always ignores that coin has got 2 sides

[CyprusNewsReport]

This is not fair, and quite likely libellous. Just because the Cyprus Mail is not slavishly re-printing government propaganda

Would you like to tell us where you think the RoC "slavishly" prints propaganda?

Printing a non-edited direct feed from the government 'news' service is slavish. Quite a few publications (I will name no names, figure it out for yourselves) simply re-print the articles distributed by our national news agency.

80 percent of those articles are promoting the government's official position, and are completely biased! Obviously biased! If you look at how media in other countries handle the government's news feeds, they use them as a source and cite quotations from them. They don't just re-print them as facts and news.

[CyprusNewsReport]

This is not fair, and quite likely libellous.

Utter rubbish!

Just because the Cyprus Mail is not slavishly re-printing government propaganda and the views of fanatics from both sides of the fence does not mean it is discriminatory or anti-Cypriot.

Manufactured rubbish!

And you would need rock-solid proof of these allegations to be taken seriously by anybody.

Piece of cake...

Btw, your response speaks heaps about your “news” junk site!

An insult to our news site from trash talkers like yourself is the highest compliment I could ever imagine. Thank you!

[Nikitas]

yes, but what about those marriages out of wedlock? You going to leave us hanging on that one?

[CyprusNewsReport]

anyone figure out the headline "marriages out of wedlock quadruple" ?


Maybe now we have a News Reporter here he can clarify it for us. I cannot get the news item to click open.

I think that article is: 'Out-of-wedlock Births Quadruple' here's the article:

Out of wedlock births quadruple in a decade
By Patrick Dewhurst Published on September 11, 2010

AN EU report into marriage, birth and government spending trends has revealed Cyprus has the highest marriage rate, the second lowest percentage of births out of wedlock, and the smallest healthcare budget.
The Eurostat report, released this week, shows that despite having the second fewest children born outside of marriage, after Greece, the percentage quadrupled between 1998 and 2008.
In 1990, the report says, just 0.7 per cent of births were out of wedlock in Cyprus, compared to an EU average of 17.4 per cent.
By 1998 out of wedlock births rose to 2.1 per cent, compared with 25 per cent for the EU. By 2008, out of wedlock childbirths rose fourfold to 8.9 per cent.
This is significantly less than the EU average in 2008, when more than a third (35.1 per cent) of EU babies was born out of wedlock.
The report also revealed Cyprus also has the highest rate of marriage in the EU, with 7.7 marriages per thousand of population in 2008, compared to an EU average of 4.9 per thousand.
In 1990, 9.7 marriages per 1000 took place. This rose to 11.4 per 1000 of population in 1998 but has since dropped to 7.7.
Nevertheless, the marriage rate remains the highest in the EU27. The only country in the study that surpassed Cyprus was Turkey, where there were nine marriages per 1000 in 2008.
Finally the report shows that in 2008 the government spent just three per cent of its GDP on healthcare, compared to an EU average of 6.9 per cent, and that Cypriot expenditure on social protection is the third lowest in the EU, after Latvia and Slovakia.
Overall, Cyprus spent 42.6 per cent of the GDP on social protection, health, general public services, education, economic affairs and “other” (which was unspecified) in 2008, compared with an EU average of 46.8 per cent.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/out-w ... e/20100911

[Nikitas]

Nope, I saw this article posted in CM. There was another article titled "marriages out of wedlock etc" which is a fascinating title. Clicked it but nothing showed.

I mean the concept of marriage out of wedlock is fascinating, you gotta admit.

[EricSeans]

The Cyprus media is controlled mostly by powerful financial groups who are opposed to the idea of of a federal solution and this is often reflected in their coverage of political events,especially when writing about anything to do with Turkey and the T.C's who are nearly always portrayed negatively.Virtually all the t.v. stations,(with the possible exception of RIK 1 which has recently begun covering sensitive issues connected with the history of Cyprus that were previously avoided,Irini Charalambidous programme on Monday evenings being a good example and some quite revealing programmes by Soulla Hadjikyriacou) do not usually promote the idea of co-existence and tend to encourage pessimism about the prospects of a solution.The Greek language Cypriot dailies,except Politis and sometimes Alithia follow a similar line,with the largest circulating Phileleftheros,owned by the Pattichis group who are known DIKO supporters and also now have ownership of the Cyprus Weekly.This was evident in the coverage of last Wednesdays negotiations on the property issue where all the negative points of the T.C. proposals were made headlines,rather than presenting an in-depth and more balanced view of both sides initial negotiating ideas,which is what they were and not final positions!A clearly set-out description was given in yesterdays Politis,which can be read on line and it is worth noting that for the first time Turkey offers to undertake to pay compensation 'within a short period of time' to those G.C's who will not have their properties returned as part of the territorial adjustments.....surely a massive improvement on the Annan Plan provisions?Although they also demand a ceiling on the number of Greek-Cypriots who will be able to live in the area they will retain to ensure ' bizonality' this is not impractical ,bearing in mind that very few G.C's would opt to return under T.C. control anway and would choose to accept compensation instead,with the possible exception of a limited number of elderly people?Bearing in mind that Christophias has demanded the territorial adjustments should allow around 100.000 G.C's to get back their properties and be under the control of their own adminstration this is approximately similar to the Annan Plans proposals,which the other side have already accepted.
When seen from an unbiased viewpoint,the two sides initial positions leave room for negotiation and surely it would be better to encourage people to see this,rather than the message put over last week?
At the end of the day there is also the question of whether non-refugees should have the right to vote in a referendum on whether or not people from the north should get their properties back or be compensated,especially with the cynicism and negativity which most of the media here have been cultivating for far too long!
The truth is that most of the economic and political elite which controls the G.C's do not want a solution,especially one that will involve sharing power with the T.C's because they consider it is against their interests.Manipulating public opinion to ensure another 'no' vote will become their priority as the final deadline for a solution draws nearer,even if this means partition!!
And this is what Christophias and other supporters of a solution need to beware of as a matter of urgency!
Opposing the corrupt and self-serving establishment here is what the Cyprus Mail often dares to do so good luck to them-if only they published in Greek too!

Big thumbs up to you cymart. Journalists should never be lobbyists unless they declare a clear interest beforehand, or call their articles opinion pieces. The most valuable asset a journalist has is his or her integrity. As media consumers become more sophisticated, they will start seeing through the current manipulation and will start demanding integrity, accuracy and balance from their journalists - as they have started to demand from the government and businesses.

If a journalist says that they have inside information on reunification proposals, the audience has the right to know their source. Not the name, but the origin of the information. Last week's 'reporting' on various proposals had an important element missing - the sources! Apparently the reporters had developed extra sensory perception and read the minds of the negotiators...because there was precious little in the way of citations.

So that makes this kind of reporting just sheer speculation and lobbying.

This journalist could not agree more. Sourceless reports are worthless reports. Sadly, much of this distortion has historically been taken as fact in Cyprus, along with many other democracies.

[lola-tulip]

This is not fair, and quite likely libellous. Just because the Cyprus Mail is not slavishly re-printing government propaganda

Would you like to tell us where you think the RoC "slavishly" prints propaganda?

Printing a non-edited direct feed from the government 'news' service is slavish. Quite a few publications (I will name no names, figure it out for yourselves) simply re-print the articles distributed by our national news agency.

80 percent of those articles are promoting the government's official position, and are completely biased! Obviously biased! If you look at how media in other countries handle the government's news feeds, they use them as a source and cite quotations from them. They don't just re-print them as facts and news.

You are accusing the government of releasing propaganda in the guise of direct feeds.

[CBBB]

This is not fair, and quite likely libellous. Just because the Cyprus Mail is not slavishly re-printing government propaganda

Would you like to tell us where you think the RoC "slavishly" prints propaganda?

Printing a non-edited direct feed from the government 'news' service is slavish. Quite a few publications (I will name no names, figure it out for yourselves) simply re-print the articles distributed by our national news agency.

80 percent of those articles are promoting the government's official position, and are completely biased! Obviously biased! If you look at how media in other countries handle the government's news feeds, they use them as a source and cite quotations from them. They don't just re-print them as facts and news.

You are accusing the government of releasing propaganda in the guise of direct feeds.

Surely not, our Governments would never do anything like that!