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[Bananiot]

You are avoiding the question GR but it is okay, I understand. However, you have made another absurd point, that the economy of RoC is somehow in danger from the English old age pensioners that make Cyprus their last home before beading goodbye to this cruel world. These people pose no threat to Cyprus and they are welcome to stay in Cyprus for real Cypriots have discovered hospitality. It is only the fascist - nationalists of ELAM and currently you, I am afraid, who feed to xenophobia.

Today I saw the following graffiti on a wall in Strovolos:

IMMIGRANTS, DONT LEAVE US ALONE WITH THE CYPRIOTS!

[Bananiot]

TC666, I am sorry I made a rush judgement on you. I am glad you and your relatives are fervent supporters of reconciliation and peace. Unfortunately I missed the meeting last week on account of a serious bout of seasonal bronchitis but rest assure we will keep the flag of hope hoisted at all costs. We have allowed the nationalists to ruin Cyprus in the past, I think this is the time to stand up to them for they have done enough damage already.

[Get Real!]

You are avoiding the question GR but it is okay, I understand. However, you have made another absurd point, that the economy of RoC is somehow in danger from the English old age pensioners that make Cyprus their last home before beading goodbye to this cruel world. These people pose no threat to Cyprus and they are welcome to stay in Cyprus for real Cypriots have discovered hospitality. It is only the fascist - nationalists of ELAM and currently you, I am afraid, who feed to xenophobia.

Bananiot, just stick to dissecting frogs that you know best because economics isn’t your forte… your response is as dumb as they get. Anyone who thinks that the absorption of foreign pensioners is a wise move needs his head examined!

Today I saw the following graffiti on a wall in Strovolos:

IMMIGRANTS, DONT LEAVE US ALONE WITH THE CYPRIOTS!

So as the arch-hater of Cyprus and Cypriots, who do you think would’ve written such a dumb message if not an immigrant?

[vaughanwilliams]

GR, I was asking you. The tens of Cypriots that went to England mainly in the 50's and 60's took money out of Cyprus in order to invest in the English economy? You ar talking rubbish and you know it, of course. You will think of all sort of absurdities when you get a chance to play down a whole people, be they English, Turks, Greeks etc. You are just insulting our intelligence and this is getting worse day by day.

If you think that thousands of foreign pensioners purchasing real estate in Cyprus and then hanging around free medical facilities and subsidized drugs for the rest of their lives, is a good thing for the Cyprus economy… you’d best stick to Biology!

I'm still looking for that intelligence Bananiot...

Whilst Cy remains in the EU and these "foreign pensioners" are EU citizens, then, it may not be a good thing for the Cy economy, but then you should have thought about that before you joined the EU.

So you agree that they are NOT a merit to the Cyprus economy (bravo), and you can only respond with a "Too bad!"

No. I respond with "Welcome to the EU". If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

[Bananiot]

Granted, I am no economist, GR, but last time I looked, neither are you! Let's then look at your claim, from the layman's point of view. You reckon that 50 000 or so old age pensioners are detrimental to our economy and I fail to understand why. They spend their money here, they are regularly visited by their offspring and their grand children and they constitute the most unnoticed part of our society. I know that many of them contribute large sums of money to various charities through different activities they undertake. Tell us GR, how in heaven are these people dangerous?

Just one more thing to get the record straight. If it werent for the British tourists that kept flocking to the island after 1974, our economy would have been severely affected and certainly, would have a much rougher path to recovery.

[Jerry]

Granted, I am no economist, GR, but last time I looked, neither are you! Let's then look at your claim, from the layman's point of view. You reckon that 50 000 or so old age pensioners are detrimental to our economy and I fail to understand why. They spend their money here, they are regularly visited by their offspring and their grand children and they constitute the most unnoticed part of our society. I know that many of them contribute large sums of money to various charities through different activities they undertake. Tell us GR, how in heaven are these people dangerous?

Just one more thing to get the record straight. If it werent for the British tourists that kept flocking to the island after 1974, our economy would have been severely affected and certainly, would have a much rougher path to recovery.

Of course you are absolutely right Bananiot. The master economist reckons that a foreign pensioner who invested in excess of 100,000 euros in Cyprus in the shape of a concrete box and pays tax on much of what he consumes is drain on the Cyprus economy. That could be the case if, say, all ex-pats had triple by-pass surgery on the state.

I know of several resident Cypriots who have returned to the UK for completely free medical care there. The medical care in the ROC is pretty good, I wonder how many GC doctors trained in the UK - subsidised by the British taxpayer.

Next he'll be telling us that the millions of £££s invested/spent in Cyprus by British Cypriots is of little consequence too!

[ttoli]

Fascists! Controlling public opinion.

They are certainly the cesspit source for a number of sewage dwellers who love to display their holier-than-though colonialist, anti-Turkish Cypriot "observations" on this very forum!

[Milo]

Granted, I am no economist, GR, but last time I looked, neither are you! Let's then look at your claim, from the layman's point of view. You reckon that 50 000 or so old age pensioners are detrimental to our economy and I fail to understand why. They spend their money here, they are regularly visited by their offspring and their grand children and they constitute the most unnoticed part of our society. I know that many of them contribute large sums of money to various charities through different activities they undertake. Tell us GR, how in heaven are these people dangerous?

Just one more thing to get the record straight. If it werent for the British tourists that kept flocking to the island after 1974, our economy would have been severely affected and certainly, would have a much rougher path to recovery.

Bananiot just to put the record straight about health costs for expats those that are recieving the UK basic state pension getting free medical is not true as all the costs they encur are met by the UK NHS at all levels perscriptions included, in fact the hospital here in Cyprus recieves 2000 pounds when each pensioner just registers for the first time.

This does not apply to any under pension age, they have to either be in full time work for at least two years paying into Cyprus,s social scheme or much more likely they will have a private insurance, which if you have an underlying health problem will not cover you entirely. Once you leave the NHS in the UK they will not allow you to be treated there unless you return full time, but they do pay within the reciprical agreement for your treatment in Cyprus. So those that do come to live here under pension age do not do so lightly unlike the UK were treatment is given free after six months residency.

Actually I have found the treatment here far superior. Much more time and care given imo.

I am not one yet (pensioner) and probably won,t be living in Cyprus when I do get to pension age BUT I know a few who are are ex this and that doctors, policeman, teachers, engineers etc and one nuclear physicist in my village all bring their private and works pensions to Cyprus and spend it, the biggest tax we all pay here is VAT.

[Get Real!]

For Bananiot and Jerry, who have the combined IQ of a Walls sausage!


You seem to be losing track of the initial argument which was a comparison of the benefit as a result of the number and type of immigrants that Cyprus and the UK have been exchanging over the decades!

Now from a financial/economic perspective, tell me… which of the two countries has benefited the most out of the foreigners they have absorbed from each other...

The UK, which has received some 250,000 mostly young and healthy Greek Cypriots in need of work, and many of which went on to establish businesses and create jobs for others thereby stimulating the economy?

Or Cyprus, which has mostly received around 70,000 old age British pensioners plagued with rheumatisms and other ailments and in need of the Mediterranean sun and plenty of healthcare!

The comparison is not even a comparison but a bloody British joke!

[georgios100]

UK citizens visiting or moving permanently in Cyprus are, of course, well received & welcomed, a healthy boast to the local economy. The main reason of this phenomenon is simple. They get their monies worth and some. They get value for the "buck". If there was another destination better than Cyprus, I bet you all of them would have gone there. Good weather year round, good food, healthcare, friendly locals, relative security and a myriad of other reasons that make Cyprus the most attractive destination in the Med sea.

So please, don't ever call this a favor, pity, good gesture, donation, charity or any other name you wanna give it.