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Turkish Airlines plane in near miss over London

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Postby CBBB » Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:48 pm

Talisker wrote:If you have train spotter inclinations (I don't :wink:) you may be interested in the following:

Follow air traffic at:
http://www.flightradar24.com/

Listen to live air traffic control world"favourites".wide at:
http://www.liveatc.net/

And if this doesn't satisfy you then follow shipping at:
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/


I am sure that Paphitis already has these on his "favourites".
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Postby Oracle » Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:55 pm

Talisker wrote:Follow air traffic at:
http://www.flightradar24.com/


It doesn't have any over Cyprus!
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:42 am

Talisker wrote:If you have train spotter inclinations (I don't :wink:) you may be interested in the following:

Follow air traffic at:
http://www.flightradar24.com/

Listen to live air traffic control worldwide at:
http://www.liveatc.net/

And if this doesn't satisfy you then follow shipping at:
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/


This kind of stuff doesn't interest me.

Only when Chuck is working here in Australia things get interesting. He is the funniest Approach Controller. There are some funny times during quiet periods. But I wouldn't go out of my way to listen in.

Chuck is American, works at Brisbane Control Centre, but is the Adelaide Approach Controller (124.2). He is always chatting and joking about. A guy that never gets flustered. And the interesting thing is that he is actually Chuck Yeager's nephew. True story! The funniest controller out there and very good at his job.

Listenning to airband or plane spotting does not interest me. I rather be at the beach and living at my beach shack in the country.

Spotting an F-22 Raptor or something like that might interest me!

How about you? Do you listen to airband? Are you one of those guys that sit and the end of the runway with binoculars? :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:45 am

Paphitis wrote:Spotting an F-22 Raptor or something like that might interest me!

But that's not meant to be "spottable"...
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Postby Talisker » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:53 am

Paphitis wrote:
Talisker wrote:If you have train spotter inclinations (I don't :wink:) you may be interested in the following:

Follow air traffic at:
http://www.flightradar24.com/

Listen to live air traffic control worldwide at:
http://www.liveatc.net/

And if this doesn't satisfy you then follow shipping at:
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/

How about you? Do you listen to airband? Are you one of those guys that sit and the end of the runway with binoculars? :lol:

Nope, just came across these links on another forum and thought they might be of general interest to some reading this particular thread. The shipping one was mentioned as being used to track Beyonce on her recent holiday cruising the Med - bizarre that anyone would want to do that, but there you go!
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:13 am

Paphitis wrote:Are you one of those guys that sit and the end of the runway with binoculars? :lol:

There was a time in Cyprus in the early 80s, when hanging around the airport trying to spot Scandinavian planes landing in the summer was every young Cypriot males’ favorite pastime!

You’d then head for the arrivals exit and hold up a banner that read something like… “Agneta!” or “Freda!” and pray that a gorgeous blond would come up to you all smiles and you would inform that you were her tour guide for the next three days! :D
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:18 am

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Spotting an F-22 Raptor or something like that might interest me!

But that's not meant to be "spottable"...


You might get a glimpse. Hopefully there will be an F-22 at the Avalon Airshow.

I also hope Australia buys the technology but they are expensive. The Yanks are trying to sell them to us.

They are stealthy but not undetectable. The best Fighter out there at the moment a far as I am concerned.

But not good value for money.
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Postby Kikapu » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:46 am

B25 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
B25 wrote:paphiti, nice reply.

I don't know the definition of a near miss, but mate once when flying to London, I looked out for the window and there was anothplane flying in the opposite direction. I was that close I could read the writing on the plane.

I have never seen any other aircraft so close during flying and if that was not within the near miss definition, I don't know what is.

Of course, the captain could have considered it not dangerous as he would have had full visual, but it could not have been more that 100m from us. Quite probably even less.

is this normal????

scary or what.


It is quite normal as long as there is a minimum of 500FT Vertical Seperation under Radar Vectoring on Approach and the aircraft is visual.

Minumum Vertical Seperation is normally 1,000FT for Reduced Vertical Separation Minima certified aircraft and 2,000FT for non RVSM approved aircraft!


Paphiti,

there was no vertical about it, I looked out and this guy was parallel to us, if I had waved I am sure someone would have seen me, yet for the speed of approach.

I was like being on a road with you going in one direction and he in the opposite on the same plane.

No vertical vectors anywhere.


It's not unusual to have simultaneous landings on parallel runways at Heathrow if traffic is heavy and visibility is good, which does bring aircrafts closer than usual during final approach. Same happens at San Francisco's International airport, where parallel landings and takeoffs are a common sight.
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Postby boomerang » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:58 am

have you been to los angeles?...3 planes landing and taking off simultaneously...very normal
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:01 am

boomerang wrote:have you been to los angeles?...3 planes landing and taking off simultaneously...very normal


Actually, I haven't, even though I have spent a lot of time near LAX (Venice Beach and Marina Del Rey), but technically, LAX can handle 4 landings and 4 takeoffs simultaneously with it's 4 long parallel runways.! The fact that there are so many planes that are landing and taking off most hours of the day, it is more efficient to use 2 runways for simultaneous landings and 2 runways for simultaneous takeoffs at the north and south sections of the airport, which is about a mile wide separating the 2x2 parallel runways across the airport.!
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