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Postby yialousa1971 » Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:15 pm

Jews playing games again?
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Postby yialousa1971 » Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:18 pm

You edited it!
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Postby Cap » Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:21 pm

Yeah, don't wanna upset people so I just posted the video..
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Postby fig head » Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:31 pm

The article wasn't upsetting .. It was very informing me think
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Postby Cap » Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:39 pm

fig head wrote:The article wasn't upsetting .. It was very informing me think


Ok, I'll repost it...

Burning of Koran


By Mike Smith

8th of September 2010

I am by no means a fan of Islam, but I am also not a fan of the Church’s favourite past time of burning books.

Along comes an American pastor named Terry Jones of Florida who thought it might be a good idea to piss on the Muslim’s battery and burn a few Korans to commemorate the 9/11 attacks on Saturday.

I suppose he lives in a free country and can start his barbeque anyway he wants. Some use newspaper, others use the Koran.

I do not know what it would achieve to lower oneself to their level. Besides this kind of thing, once it starts, never stops. Today they are burning the Koran, tomorrow it is the Talmud, the Bible, the Kama Sutra, Asterix or some other comic book… and before you know it, we are back in the Dark Ages where we burned books and libraries to keep people in perpetual ignorance and set back civilization by a thousand years.

Nevertheless, I found a piece on the website African Crisis about Islam that comes from a book by Dr. Peter Hammond. It tells you what happens when Muslim populations grows in countries. So you be the judge wheter Terry Jones’ burning of the Koran is justified or not.
Terry Jones wants to burn the Koran

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat.

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.

Here’s how it works:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States - – Muslim 0.6%
Australia - – Muslim 1.5%
Canada - – Muslim 1.9%
China - – Muslim 1.8%
Italy - – Muslim 1.5%
Norway - – Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark - – Muslim 2%
Germany - – Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom - – Muslim 2.7%
Spain - – Muslim 4%
Thailand - – Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves – - along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France - – Muslim 8%
Philippines - – 5%
Sweden - – Muslim 5%
Switzerland - – Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands - – Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago – - Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections in:

Guyana - – Muslim 10%
India - – Muslim 13.4%
Israel - – Muslim 16%
Kenya - – Muslim 10%
Russia - – Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia - – Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia - – Muslim 40%
Chad - – Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon - – Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania - – Muslim 70%
Malaysia - – Muslim 60.4%
Qatar - – Muslim 77..5%
Sudan - – Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh - – Muslim 83%
Egypt - – Muslim 90%
Gaza - – Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia - – Muslim 86.1%
Iran - – Muslim 98%
Iraq - – Muslim 97%
Jordan - – Muslim 92%
Morocco - – Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan - – Muslim 97%
Palestine - – Muslim 99%
Syria - – Muslim 90%
Tajikistan - – Muslim 90%
Turkey - – Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates - – Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ – - the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan - – Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia - – Muslim 100%
Somalia - – Muslim 100%
Yemen - – Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

“Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel.” – - Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

Today’s 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world’s population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world’s population by the end of this century.
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Postby Schnauzer » Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:31 pm

What a wonderful opportunity for Barak Obama to distance himself from the shambles of Iraq AND Afghanistan the burning of the Qur'an will prove to be, whether the burning takes place or not.

As a political manoeuvre, the reporting of the intended 'Insult to Islam' is nothing short of a masterpiece since it is guaranteed to increase tensions throughout the Muslim communities.

One can just imagine Obama declaring that "All the good work achieved by the Americans and it's allies in the past few years, has been blighted by the actions of a small time preacher in Florida" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Worth a good laugh I think, SURELY as President, Obama could easily have silenced this intended insult, he is well aware of the sensitivity of such an action and (like so many other incidents which are banned from publicity) it would represent a small matter for him to do so.

Henceforth, ANY action against the troops now left in peril in both locations (particularly Iraq) can be attributed to the 'Insult', it does not even require a 'Burning of the Qur'an' since the damage is already done and anyone with the slightest knowledge of Islam will know it.

The recent withdrawal of troops from Iraq, was supposed to indicate that 'All is well' in the region, THIS masterpiece of political chicanery will serve well in the months ahead and the general public will probably accept that everything would have been alright, had not such an 'Insult' (possibly 'Action') occurred. (IMHO) :wink:
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Postby beverley10 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:15 pm

Cap wrote:
fig head wrote:The article wasn't upsetting .. It was very informing me think


Ok, I'll repost it...
Very Very Scarey.
Burning of Koran


By Mike Smith

8th of September 2010

I am by no means a fan of Islam, but I am also not a fan of the Church’s favourite past time of burning books.

Along comes an American pastor named Terry Jones of Florida who thought it might be a good idea to piss on the Muslim’s battery and burn a few Korans to commemorate the 9/11 attacks on Saturday.

I suppose he lives in a free country and can start his barbeque anyway he wants. Some use newspaper, others use the Koran.

I do not know what it would achieve to lower oneself to their level. Besides this kind of thing, once it starts, never stops. Today they are burning the Koran, tomorrow it is the Talmud, the Bible, the Kama Sutra, Asterix or some other comic book… and before you know it, we are back in the Dark Ages where we burned books and libraries to keep people in perpetual ignorance and set back civilization by a thousand years.

Nevertheless, I found a piece on the website African Crisis about Islam that comes from a book by Dr. Peter Hammond. It tells you what happens when Muslim populations grows in countries. So you be the judge wheter Terry Jones’ burning of the Koran is justified or not.
Terry Jones wants to burn the Koran

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat.

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.

Here’s how it works:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States - – Muslim 0.6%
Australia - – Muslim 1.5%
Canada - – Muslim 1.9%
China - – Muslim 1.8%
Italy - – Muslim 1.5%
Norway - – Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark - – Muslim 2%
Germany - – Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom - – Muslim 2.7%
Spain - – Muslim 4%
Thailand - – Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves – - along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France - – Muslim 8%
Philippines - – 5%
Sweden - – Muslim 5%
Switzerland - – Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands - – Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago – - Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections in:

Guyana - – Muslim 10%
India - – Muslim 13.4%
Israel - – Muslim 16%
Kenya - – Muslim 10%
Russia - – Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia - – Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia - – Muslim 40%
Chad - – Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon - – Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania - – Muslim 70%
Malaysia - – Muslim 60.4%
Qatar - – Muslim 77..5%
Sudan - – Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh - – Muslim 83%
Egypt - – Muslim 90%
Gaza - – Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia - – Muslim 86.1%
Iran - – Muslim 98%
Iraq - – Muslim 97%
Jordan - – Muslim 92%
Morocco - – Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan - – Muslim 97%
Palestine - – Muslim 99%
Syria - – Muslim 90%
Tajikistan - – Muslim 90%
Turkey - – Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates - – Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ – - the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan - – Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia - – Muslim 100%
Somalia - – Muslim 100%
Yemen - – Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

“Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel.” – - Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

Today’s 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world’s population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world’s population by the end of this century.
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Postby Schnauzer » Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:21 pm

Schnauzer wrote:What a wonderful opportunity for Barak Obama to distance himself from the shambles of Iraq AND Afghanistan the burning of the Qur'an will prove to be, whether the burning takes place or not.

As a political manoeuvre, the reporting of the intended 'Insult to Islam' is nothing short of a masterpiece since it is guaranteed to increase tensions throughout the Muslim communities.

One can just imagine Obama declaring that "All the good work achieved by the Americans and it's allies in the past few years, has been blighted by the actions of a small time preacher in Florida" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Worth a good laugh I think, SURELY as President, Obama could easily have silenced this intended insult, he is well aware of the sensitivity of such an action and (like so many other incidents which are banned from publicity) it would represent a small matter for him to do so.

Henceforth, ANY action against the troops now left in peril in both locations (particularly Iraq) can be attributed to the 'Insult', it does not even require a 'Burning of the Qur'an' since the damage is already done and anyone with the slightest knowledge of Islam will know it.

The recent withdrawal of troops from Iraq, was supposed to indicate that 'All is well' in the region, THIS masterpiece of political chicanery will serve well in the months ahead and the general public will probably accept that everything would have been alright, had not such an 'Insult' (possibly 'Action') occurred. (IMHO) :wink:
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:20 pm

Cap wrote:
fig head wrote:The article wasn't upsetting .. It was very informing me think


Ok, I'll repost it...

Burning of Koran


By Mike Smith

8th of September 2010

I am by no means a fan of Islam, but I am also not a fan of the Church’s favourite past time of burning books.

Along comes an American pastor named Terry Jones of Florida who thought it might be a good idea to piss on the Muslim’s battery and burn a few Korans to commemorate the 9/11 attacks on Saturday.

I suppose he lives in a free country and can start his barbeque anyway he wants. Some use newspaper, others use the Koran.

I do not know what it would achieve to lower oneself to their level. Besides this kind of thing, once it starts, never stops. Today they are burning the Koran, tomorrow it is the Talmud, the Bible, the Kama Sutra, Asterix or some other comic book… and before you know it, we are back in the Dark Ages where we burned books and libraries to keep people in perpetual ignorance and set back civilization by a thousand years.

Nevertheless, I found a piece on the website African Crisis about Islam that comes from a book by Dr. Peter Hammond. It tells you what happens when Muslim populations grows in countries. So you be the judge wheter Terry Jones’ burning of the Koran is justified or not.
Terry Jones wants to burn the Koran

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat.

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.

Here’s how it works:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States - – Muslim 0.6%
Australia - – Muslim 1.5%
Canada - – Muslim 1.9%
China - – Muslim 1.8%
Italy - – Muslim 1.5%
Norway - – Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark - – Muslim 2%
Germany - – Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom - – Muslim 2.7%
Spain - – Muslim 4%
Thailand - – Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves – - along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France - – Muslim 8%
Philippines - – 5%
Sweden - – Muslim 5%
Switzerland - – Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands - – Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago – - Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections in:

Guyana - – Muslim 10%
India - – Muslim 13.4%
Israel - – Muslim 16%
Kenya - – Muslim 10%
Russia - – Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia - – Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia - – Muslim 40%
Chad - – Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon - – Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania - – Muslim 70%
Malaysia - – Muslim 60.4%
Qatar - – Muslim 77..5%
Sudan - – Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh - – Muslim 83%
Egypt - – Muslim 90%
Gaza - – Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia - – Muslim 86.1%
Iran - – Muslim 98%
Iraq - – Muslim 97%
Jordan - – Muslim 92%
Morocco - – Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan - – Muslim 97%
Palestine - – Muslim 99%
Syria - – Muslim 90%
Tajikistan - – Muslim 90%
Turkey - – Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates - – Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ – - the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan - – Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia - – Muslim 100%
Somalia - – Muslim 100%
Yemen - – Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

“Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel.” – - Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

Today’s 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world’s population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world’s population by the end of this century.


This is a load of crap, from beggining to start, it is a very shallow way of looking at everything and deeply indiscriminate.

Bosnia for fucks sake? The real genocide was committed there and it was not done by the "muslims"!

The Holocaust was not done by the "muslims", and neither were the massacres in Russia or China, or Vietnam, Iraq, Cambodia, Japan, South Africa, USA, South America, Algeria, Cyprus and anywhere else I cannot remember from the top of my head, but most probably pretty much any Imperial leftover.

And Mike here claims he has figured something new out? The correlation between the rise of the percentage of a certain group and the rise of their demands?

Yes genius, it is called Democracy! :lol:
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