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[shahmaran]

Oh yeah the Cypriot Ozzy is the one to speak about not being from the region and captured land

well thats what i am...a cypriot...without the greek and turkish bullshit...pity that you can't seemed to see your self as such, coz if you did you would have gotten the point...you are a bloody cypriot too shah...noone is asking you to go go home, you are bloody home...

but then again the indoctrination of the turkish thesis is embedded well judging by your responce, huh?...

anyway i am tired and have been putting 18hrs a day the last 3 months so I'm off to a break from damn computers...but free and enlighten me with more of the turkish thesis...i need a laugh...

Australians are the last ones to talk about stolen land mate.

If you want to laugh you can start from there..

here we go again the turks/tcs seek justification for the turkish thesis for an event that happened 200 years ago...

well lets try and use your turkish thesis on the aboriginals...they came from somewhere before they settled in australia according to the turkish thesis so like you and them I have every right to be here... ...maybe they were turks all along...

Oh yeah? How did they "get to" Australia? From New Zealand maybe, then how did they get there? Their existence on those lands is estimated to be between 40,000 to 125,000 years, yes thats long before God even had thought of the word Greek. Recorded maritime history only dates back to 40,000.

There is a reason why they are referred to as "indigenous" by the entire scientific community, while the GC's are referred to as "indigenous" only by themselves.

Started laughing yet?

But even judging by your logic, we have been here for almost half a millennia. Yet we are still referred to as "invaders" by many.

[boomerang]

Oh yeah the Cypriot Ozzy is the one to speak about not being from the region and captured land

well thats what i am...a cypriot...without the greek and turkish bullshit...pity that you can't seemed to see your self as such, coz if you did you would have gotten the point...you are a bloody cypriot too shah...noone is asking you to go go home, you are bloody home...

but then again the indoctrination of the turkish thesis is embedded well judging by your responce, huh?...

anyway i am tired and have been putting 18hrs a day the last 3 months so I'm off to a break from damn computers...but free and enlighten me with more of the turkish thesis...i need a laugh...

Australians are the last ones to talk about stolen land mate.

If you want to laugh you can start from there..

here we go again the turks/tcs seek justification for the turkish thesis for an event that happened 200 years ago...

well lets try and use your turkish thesis on the aboriginals...they came from somewhere before they settled in australia according to the turkish thesis so like you and them I have every right to be here... ...maybe they were turks all along...

Oh yeah? How did they "get to" Australia? From New Zealand maybe, then how did they get there? Their existence on those lands is estimated to be between 40,000 to 125,000 years, yes thats long before God even had thought of the word Greek. Recorded maritime history only dates back to 40,000.

There is a reason why they are referred to as "indigenous" by the entire scientific community, while the GC's are referred to as "indigenous" only by themselves.

Started laughing yet?

But even judging by your logic, we have been here for almost half a millennia. Yet we are still referred to as "invaders" by many.

i think you will find they also subscribe to the turkish thesis...

According to some traditional beliefs of Australia's indigenous people, their ancestors were created in the Dreaming (see below - 'Memories of the Dreamtime'), the period when both landscape and humans were formed. For them, there is therefore no mystery to their origins. They have always been where they are. Nor is the timing of their origins important. The Dreaming integrates past, present and future in a way that makes chronology a concept of little significance.

http://www.janesoceania.com/australia_a ... index1.htm

[kurupetos]

[shahmaran]

Well depending on how far North they started traveling from, they might really be Turkish after all

But I am glad we agree on the meaning of indigenous, and one more time established the fact that the Cypriot people are no where near being indigenous of this island.

If ingenuousness was a vessel locked in Earth's orbit, we would think it was a moving star. That is how close Cypriots are to being indigenous.

Case closed.

[CBBB]

Well depending on how far North they started traveling from, they might really be Turkish after all

But I am glad we agree on the meaning of indigenous, and one more time established the fact that the Cypriot people are no where near being indigenous of this island.

If ingenuousness was a vessel locked in Earth's orbit, we would think it was a moving star. That is how close Cypriots are to being indigenous.

Case closed.

You are originally an African, just like the rest of us.

[kurupetos]

Well depending on how far North they started traveling from, they might really be Turkish after all

But I am glad we agree on the meaning of indigenous, and one more time established the fact that the Cypriot people are no where near being indigenous of this island.

If ingenuousness was a vessel locked in Earth's orbit, we would think it was a moving star. That is how close Cypriots are to being indigenous.

Case closed.

You are originally an African, just like the rest of us.

...and a monkey. Still is one.

[Get Real!]

But I am glad we agree on the meaning of indigenous, and one more time established the fact that the Cypriot people are no where near being indigenous of this island.

If ingenuousness was a vessel locked in Earth's orbit, we would think it was a moving star. That is how close Cypriots are to being indigenous.

The most fundamental criteria for indigenousness, is that a people had FIRST CONTACT with a land.

It’s important to note that indigenousness is an EXCLUSIVE label as there can only ever been ONE people who could have made FIRST contact with a land. Any other people who may have followed to settle in a given land can NEVER be referred to as “indigenous” due to this exclusivity.

That is why the American Indians or the Australian Aboriginals are considered indigenous to their respective countries, and by the same token the Choirokitians (Cyprus’ oldest known civilization) are the indigenous people of Cyprus.

[boomerang]

Well depending on how far North they started traveling from, they might really be Turkish after all

But I am glad we agree on the meaning of indigenous, and one more time established the fact that the Cypriot people are no where near being indigenous of this island.

If ingenuousness was a vessel locked in Earth's orbit, we would think it was a moving star. That is how close Cypriots are to being indigenous.

Case closed.

we agreed?...where exactly did we agree...

with your mentality in 2000 years my offspings will be considered indigenous and i will be using the same argument as you regarding indigenous...coz even the aboriginals would have been fully assimilated by then...

you are a perfect example of not knowing what you are talking about...cypriots are indigenpus...look around you...with every conquest in cyprus there were people before the conquerer arrived...or are you saying when the conquerers arrived the island was empty...get it together man...

case closed...along with your discredited turkish thesis myth...

[insan]

But I am glad we agree on the meaning of indigenous, and one more time established the fact that the Cypriot people are no where near being indigenous of this island.

If ingenuousness was a vessel locked in Earth's orbit, we would think it was a moving star. That is how close Cypriots are to being indigenous.

The most fundamental criteria for indigenousness, is that a people had FIRST CONTACT with a land.

It’s important to note that indigenousness is an EXCLUSIVE label as there can only ever been ONE people who could have made FIRST contact with a land. Any other people who may have followed to settle in a given land can NEVER be referred to as “indigenous” due to this exclusivity.

That is why the American Indians or the Australian Aboriginals are considered indigenous to their respective countries, and by the same token the Choirokitians (Cyprus’ oldest known civilization) are the indigenous people of Cyprus.

However the fact is that while there are still some groups of people living on their native lands are being called as American Indians and Australian aboriginals; there isn't ust a single group of people in Cyprus being called Cypriot Choirokittians for about 7 milleniums...

GR, as far as i know... you are a wealthy guy... why don't you open a cultural center in Choirokittia village to gather all choirokttians under a roof?

You could even shoot a movie named "justified ancients of mu mu"...

They have travelled the world
With the ice cream van
Their voyage, the bottom of time
They have entered the place
with the Mu Mu mate
And their children so pride
Mine as a "99"
(Bring the beat back)

Mu Mu Land (Ancients of Mu Mu)
Mu Mu Land (Ancients of Mu Mu)
All bound for Mu Mu Land

...and a short clip showing young generation of chirokittians performing their traditional jumping sport...

[boomerang]

talk abouit the american indians and aboriginals in 7 millenia and then your argument will change as both of these groups would have been fully assimilated...or you think in the next 7 millenia these groups would exist as they do today...

comparing a 7 millenia history with a 400 year and a 200 year history hardly sounds equitable in advancing your turkish thesis...

try comparing apples with apples not aples and oranges...