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HELLIM – A PRODUCT OF TRNC

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Postby insan » Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:29 pm

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insan wrote:The ones who cannot notice that "minor" mistypo, how could notice any "minor" unhealtful things in their halloumi? :lol:

Time we examined your minor brain cells Insan...

Given that the Ottomans arrived on Cyprus in 1570 and those who settled here were soldiers, do you believe that they also knew how to look after goats, milk them, and invent an Ottoman cheese that today you call “Hellim”?


Sidqui Effendi advised in his nineteenth-century Turkish cookbook: “Put a portion of cheese in silver paper. Wrap it up and put it over a fire. When the paper starts to glow the cheese is ready to eat and deliciously creamy…This is good food that enhances sex for married men.” And I quote.


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Most probably both GCs and TCs learned to make it from Maronites but the fact is that the ones made by some TC villagers and TC hellim companies are tastier than the ones made by some GC halloumi companies(at least for me and for most of the TCs)... though i haven't tried all GC brands and never tried the home made GC halloumi...

Hear what Sıtgı Ehendi tells about Hellim... Has there ever been a GC eating Hellim with full enjoyment while thinking about doing a good sex? On top of it in 19th century! :lol:

It is very clear that TCs embraced Hellim and treated it as their own invention... :wink:

But Insan… the indigenous Cypriots were making Halloumi for centuries before Ottomans arrived! :lol:

Is it possible that the Ottoman soldiers ignored the local cheese and insisted on inventing their own? And how did they manage to "invent" something that is almost identical to the Cypriot one? :lol:


GR, it's an invention of Arabs... Most probably it was introduced to first Greek Cypriots and later TCs by Maronites ... Why it is too difficult for you to accept this simple fact?

Halloumi (you can pronounce without the final ee sound and still be correct: like, “halloom”) was originally a Bedouin cheese made from either sheep’s or goat’s milk. It’s a compact, salty and fibrous little cheese that keeps for a long time so that it would be perfect on caravan, and it gradually became popular throughout the Middle East, Greece and Cyprus. It is firmer and less salty than most fetas. The manufacture is similar to that of mozzarella, as the moulded curds are dipped into hot water or whey, and then kneaded, usually with the addition of chopped mint. It is rolled out, aged in baskets and then folded into sensible little oblongs. The result is pliant, mellow, tangy, and only slightly sheepy. It slices like Swiss and doesn’t crumble like feta. Its texture lends it to several cooking techniques: it can be grilled, fried, grated or eaten fresh. Some ardent Cypriots eat it three times a day. In Lebanon it is cubed and kebabbed and sold by street vendors.


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Postby shahmaran » Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:36 pm

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shahmaran wrote:Dude, are you seriously claiming that during the thousands of years of slavery, you actually found the time to invent stuff? :lol: :lol:

Sure! One of the greatest Cypriot inventions is the fine art of OUSTING fools!


Define "ousting" :lol:

Thousands of years of slavery, the only reason you got independence was because the Ottomans gave it to you, and the only reason you got rid of the Ottomans was because they left, and the empire collapsed.

Thats hardly clever GR, you have not done anything, just been very lucky. :lol:

I remind you of…

1. The ousting of Ottoman power and Ottomans (some 10,000) from the island in 1923.

2. The ousting of British control as a result of the EOKA movement in 1955-59.

3. The ousting of “Turkish Cypriots” as a result of 1960, 63, 67 squabbles.

4. The ousting of “Turkish Cypriots” from the occupied territory which continues today!


As controversial as they might be, at least you accept the fact that you were indeed trying to "oust" the TC's from the island. Ethnic cleansing is too big of a game for you, leave that to us :lol: :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:52 pm

insan wrote:GR, it's an invention of Arabs...

:roll: Stale milk leading to cheese was “discovered” thousands of years ago before the birth of Christ, by pretty much everyone who had goats or sheep!
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:59 pm

Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:GR, it's an invention of Arabs...

:roll: Stale milk leading to cheese was “discovered” thousands of years ago before the birth of Christ, by pretty much everyone who had goats or sheep!


The discussion is about Haloumi/Hellim, whateever you want to call it flea brain. :roll:
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:04 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:GR, it's an invention of Arabs...

:roll: Stale milk leading to cheese was “discovered” thousands of years ago before the birth of Christ, by pretty much everyone who had goats or sheep!


The discussion is about Haloumi/Hellim, whateever you want to call it flea brain. :roll:

The notion that Cypriots, who have a millenniums-old history of farming and livestock keeping, needed to import cheese making is laughable!
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:17 pm

Get Real! wrote:
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Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:GR, it's an invention of Arabs...

:roll: Stale milk leading to cheese was “discovered” thousands of years ago before the birth of Christ, by pretty much everyone who had goats or sheep!


The discussion is about Haloumi/Hellim, whateever you want to call it flea brain. :roll:

The notion that Cypriots, who have a millenniums-old history of farming and livestock keeping, needed to import cheese making is laughable!


It is natural for any farm holders to produce their own cheese. No one can deny that. But so can colonisers bring their own milk produce from whence they come from.

Like Charlies in London stream into Yashar Halim or the Turkish Food Markets to sate their demands for food they are used to.(which is delivered by air). Those days no such luxury existed so nothing wrong in bringing their own manufacturing processes with them. Did you try Shiraz wine in Oz?
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Postby insan » Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:35 pm

Get Real! wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:GR, it's an invention of Arabs...

:roll: Stale milk leading to cheese was “discovered” thousands of years ago before the birth of Christ, by pretty much everyone who had goats or sheep!


The discussion is about Haloumi/Hellim, whateever you want to call it flea brain. :roll:

The notion that Cypriots, who have a millenniums-old history of farming and livestock keeping, needed to import cheese making is laughable!


Had Greek Cypriots ever had time or free will to invent something under the oppressive rule of their masters? They were born as serfs, died as serfs by working hard for their masters... :roll: imho...
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Postby Oracle » Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:42 pm

insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:GR, it's an invention of Arabs...

:roll: Stale milk leading to cheese was “discovered” thousands of years ago before the birth of Christ, by pretty much everyone who had goats or sheep!


The discussion is about Haloumi/Hellim, whateever you want to call it flea brain. :roll:

The notion that Cypriots, who have a millenniums-old history of farming and livestock keeping, needed to import cheese making is laughable!


Had Greek Cypriots ever had time or free will to invent something under the oppressive rule of their masters? They were born as serfs, died as serfs by working hard for their masters... :roll: imho...


Take a look around at how much GCs accomplish NOW, despite the worst atrocity which has ever befallen Cyprus in 2,000 years. BTW --- Cyprus' history is rather older than even that! 10,000 years. And periods of self-rule have been longer than under oppression.
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:50 pm

insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:GR, it's an invention of Arabs...

:roll: Stale milk leading to cheese was “discovered” thousands of years ago before the birth of Christ, by pretty much everyone who had goats or sheep!


The discussion is about Haloumi/Hellim, whateever you want to call it flea brain. :roll:

The notion that Cypriots, who have a millenniums-old history of farming and livestock keeping, needed to import cheese making is laughable!


Had Greek Cypriots ever had time or free will to invent something under the oppressive rule of their masters? They were born as serfs, died as serfs by working hard for their masters... :roll: imho...

In your haste to prove the ridiculous this thread has turned comical! :lol:

They were working hard doing what exactly if not crop growing and animal rearing? :roll:

Cheese didn’t need to be invented… it’s a natural phenomenon of milk curdled by bacteria! :roll:

You won't find any rocket science in cheese making! Even people in Africa were making cheese 5-10 thousand years ago!
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:50 pm

Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:GR, it's an invention of Arabs...

:roll: Stale milk leading to cheese was “discovered” thousands of years ago before the birth of Christ, by pretty much everyone who had goats or sheep!


The discussion is about Haloumi/Hellim, whateever you want to call it flea brain. :roll:

The notion that Cypriots, who have a millenniums-old history of farming and livestock keeping, needed to import cheese making is laughable!


Had Greek Cypriots ever had time or free will to invent something under the oppressive rule of their masters? They were born as serfs, died as serfs by working hard for their masters... :roll: imho...


Take a look around at how much GCs accomplish NOW, despite the worst atrocity which has ever befallen Cyprus in 2,000 years. BTW --- Cyprus' history is rather older than even that! 10,000 years. And periods of self-rule have been longer than under oppression.



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What a revelation Oracle.

I hope you do not fall foul of Piratis and flea brain.. So you admit that 1571 was not that bad after all. I wish people would make up their minds. :?
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