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HELLIM – A PRODUCT OF TRNC

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Postby shahmaran » Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:31 pm

I don't know how you guys pronounce Hallumi, but I have a feeling that "hallüm" would sound a lot more like "hellim", than your alien gibberish! :D

Plus it is more likely for you to add an -i at the end of everything you want to claim your own, compared to the Arabs AND us, who would have to remove it. :lol:
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Postby CyprusNewsReport » Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:32 pm

shahmaran wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Hmmm nothing like squiggly, warm and fresh hellim in the morning to go with my local honey and village bread, enjoyed while surrounded by the sweetest smell of the early morning in Lefke! Oh my god!

I would fight you GC's just for this alone!! :lol:


Given you have no health inspectors and all that, be sure to check for any animal and/or human hair before consumption!


No problems so far. Food in the rural areas has its own "style" and if you can't handle it, than go live in a city and eat packaged GDO crap, make the Jews and the US rich. :lol:


Other than the Jews & US potshot, sh, I agree with you - country food has a real taste, not like the pre-packaged crap they sell in supermarkets. It's fresh, and usually made by some granny who gave birth to half the village :)
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Postby Nikitas » Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:26 am

There is a Greek equivalent of Halloumi, it is called Talagani, made the same way and has the same texture. It is one of the hundreds of varieties of cheese made in Greece. No doubt it is made elsewhere in the Balkans.

And by the way, my Lebanese friends pronounce it Halloumi when they talk to each other, not Hellim.

As for what we stole from the Arabs, look up ancient and Byzantine recipes, and you will be surprised about how much the Turks borrowed from the Greeks the Arabs and the Persians. It is natural for the nomads to borrow from the settled cultures they come into contact with.
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Postby CyprusNewsReport » Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:47 pm

Nikitas wrote:There is a Greek equivalent of Halloumi, it is called Talagani, made the same way and has the same texture. It is one of the hundreds of varieties of cheese made in Greece. No doubt it is made elsewhere in the Balkans.

And by the way, my Lebanese friends pronounce it Halloumi when they talk to each other, not Hellim.

As for what we stole from the Arabs, look up ancient and Byzantine recipes, and you will be surprised about how much the Turks borrowed from the Greeks the Arabs and the Persians. It is natural for the nomads to borrow from the settled cultures they come into contact with.


I'll try Talagani. Look, an exchange of culture is a good thing, not a bad thing. I'm always disappointed when one culture rejects the other instead of learning from it. Rejectionism blocks new experiences and the possibility of broadening one's horizons. Take wine, for example, I'll probably never go to Chile, but I can enjoy their wines. It's even better when we can discover new tastes and experiences in our own neighborhood.

God help us when cheese becomes a cultural, political or economic issue! I want to enjoy it, not become a fanatic about it. If Epicurus were still around he'd probably tell us all to relax and enjoy our food, not fight about it.
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Postby revolver » Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:08 pm

I HATE THIS TOPIC.
HELLIM IS PRODUCT OF CYPRUS AND IT IS BELONGS TO CYPRIOTS AND THAT IS TC'S AND GC'S.
BULL SHIT!!!!
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Postby CyprusNewsReport » Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:15 pm

revolver wrote:I HATE THIS TOPIC.
HELLIM IS PRODUCT OF CYPRUS AND IT IS BELONGS TO CYPRIOTS AND THAT IS TC'S AND GC'S.
BULL SHIT!!!!


Yep. Think I'll have some brie instead :)
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Postby IMPOSTALIEDUS » Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:19 pm

I DO not give a toss what its called where its from originally, as long as my little shepherd who herds his goats and sheep around my house once or twice a week brings me my half klo , no additives no cows milk ,just pure , I think i might go and put some on my pide mmmmm
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Postby shahmaran » Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:40 pm

Nikitas wrote:There is a Greek equivalent of Halloumi, it is called Talagani, made the same way and has the same texture. It is one of the hundreds of varieties of cheese made in Greece. No doubt it is made elsewhere in the Balkans.

And by the way, my Lebanese friends pronounce it Halloumi when they talk to each other, not Hellim.

As for what we stole from the Arabs, look up ancient and Byzantine recipes, and you will be surprised about how much the Turks borrowed from the Greeks the Arabs and the Persians. It is natural for the nomads to borrow from the settled cultures they come into contact with.


Or for others to borrow everything the nomads bring from all over the world.

Are you saying we took off all the way from China to here, mixing with everyone on the way, only to settle with the Greek cuisine?

Don't you ever wonder why you have common dishes with Africa and Arabia when you never really lived there?
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Postby Nikitas » Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:28 pm

"Don't you ever wonder why you have common dishes with Africa and Arabia when you never really lived there? "

Yes, I do wonder and very often, and then I recall that Alexandria until very recently was home to a half a million Greeks, that there were flourishing Greek communities in Lebanon, Syria, Morocco, and that Greek ships crossed the seas for centuries and probably brought back all kinds of tastes and spices. And at some point one must also wonder how much traffic was the other way round, from the Byzantines to the Arabs and the Africans.

As for the reference to nomads, it was to the likelihood or otherwise of nomadic people to stay still and cultivate the land as do sedentary cultures.

There is a time capsule of sorts, in southern Italy, where Greek culture and language survived intact for 3000 years and it is there that I turn for validation of certain things. I tend to look west rather than east and found the research very rewarding.

And when I get a little more serious about research and try to find some repository of knowledge about the years 1453 to 1821 I resort to libraries in Venice and Vienna, which house plenty of Greek manuscripts of that time. For some reason back then very little writing about culture and science flourished in the Balkans and the Middle East in the native languages of these places.
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Postby Oracle » Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:48 pm

With ref. to what Nikitas has said (Greeks heading West):

Marseille, the oldest city of France, was founded in 600 BC by Greeks from Phocζa (as mentioned by Thucydides Bk1,13) as a trading port under the name Massalia. The coastline of France (and Spain and Italy) had several Greek colonies at this time or trading purposes (wine, chief among the produits). Facing an opposing alliance of the Etruscans, Carthage and the Celts, the Greek colony allied itself with the expanding Roman Republic for protection.

From the Metropolis' website.
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