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HELLIM – A PRODUCT OF TRNC

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Postby shahmaran » Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:02 pm

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shahmaran wrote:The Ottomans are known to "shift" people around, in order to minimize uprisings :lol:


They've done a good job of "shifting" you TCs off the scene! :lol:


Don't be bitter because you come from a line of incompetent losers Oracle. :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:12 pm

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insan wrote:The ones who cannot notice that "minor" mistypo, how could notice any "minor" unhealtful things in their halloumi? :lol:

Time we examined your minor brain cells Insan...

Given that the Ottomans arrived on Cyprus in 1570 and those who settled here were soldiers, do you believe that they also knew how to look after goats, milk them, and invent an Ottoman cheese that today you call “Hellim”?


They had already conquered everywhere else around here by then, so it is possible that things get carried around, like the so called "Greek coffee" which actually comes from Yemen and somehow exists in all ex-Ottoman lands.

The Ottomans are known to "shift" people around, in order to minimize uprisings :lol:

:? So your answer is that Hellim was "carried around" or something from elsewhere? :?
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:21 pm

It’s pretty obvious that “Hellim” is just a TC name for “Halloumi”, which was a Cypriot product for centuries if not millenniums!

The notion that it’s a different product, or that the recipe was imported by Ottoman soldiers is daft because Cypriots had domesticated and milked animals for millenniums!

Case closed!
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Postby shahmaran » Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:26 pm

Rubbish, it has the same name in Arabic.

And the fact that you just add an "i" at the end of everything you wish was yours makes it pretty obvious, and really is a no brainer.

Even if it started here, it probably came with your ever changing conquerers, again making it not yours.
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Postby shahmaran » Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:33 pm

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Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:The ones who cannot notice that "minor" mistypo, how could notice any "minor" unhealtful things in their halloumi? :lol:

Time we examined your minor brain cells Insan...

Given that the Ottomans arrived on Cyprus in 1570 and those who settled here were soldiers, do you believe that they also knew how to look after goats, milk them, and invent an Ottoman cheese that today you call “Hellim”?


They had already conquered everywhere else around here by then, so it is possible that things get carried around, like the so called "Greek coffee" which actually comes from Yemen and somehow exists in all ex-Ottoman lands.

The Ottomans are known to "shift" people around, in order to minimize uprisings :lol:

:? So your answer is that Hellim was "carried around" or something from elsewhere? :?


Thats exactly what it is, like many other things that existed in the Ottoman controlled lands.

Don't you ever wonder why so many similarities between such unrelated people?

From North Africa, to Arabia, all the way up to Vienna and the Caspian sea?

The only common factor is the "Ottoman effect" :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:33 pm

shahmaran wrote:Rubbish, it has the same name in Arabic.

And the fact that you just add an "i" at the end of everything you wish was yours makes it pretty obvious, and really is a no brainer.

Even if it started here, it probably came with your ever changing conquerers, again making it not yours.


Came over with the Maronites from a place called Haellim/Hillim. I was told this by a 'Damascene' friend of mine (from Damascus). Just like 'Turkish' coffee. :lol: :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:33 pm

shahmaran wrote:Rubbish, it has the same name in Arabic.

And the fact that you just add an "i" at the end of everything you wish was yours makes it pretty obvious, and really is a no brainer.

Even if it started here, it probably came with your ever changing conquerers, again making it not yours.

You were unable to answer my simple questions as to how a bunch of Ottoman soldiers could have invented a cheese while ignoring the local one.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:35 pm

Get Real! wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Rubbish, it has the same name in Arabic.

And the fact that you just add an "i" at the end of everything you wish was yours makes it pretty obvious, and really is a no brainer.

Even if it started here, it probably came with your ever changing conquerers, again making it not yours.

You were unable to answer my simple questions as to how a bunch of Ottoman soldiers could have invented a cheese while ignoring the local one.



I am surprised the 'Greek' invaders brought no chees with them!!! I wonder why? Not even Feta :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:35 pm

shahmaran wrote:Rubbish, it has the same name in Arabic.

And the fact that you just add an "i" at the end of everything you wish was yours makes it pretty obvious, and really is a no brainer.

Even if it started here, it probably came with your ever changing conquerers, again making it not yours.


By your own admission:

If the two names are Halloumi and Halloum, then "Hellim" doesn't figure into the story at all!

So, the contest is between "Halloumi" and "Halloum" and so far no Arab has come along to deny that the name belongs to Cyprus!
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Postby shahmaran » Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:36 pm

Get Real! wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Rubbish, it has the same name in Arabic.

And the fact that you just add an "i" at the end of everything you wish was yours makes it pretty obvious, and really is a no brainer.

Even if it started here, it probably came with your ever changing conquerers, again making it not yours.

You were unable to answer my simple questions as to how a bunch of Ottoman soldiers could have invented a cheese while ignoring the local one.


What makes you think only soldiers came?

I never said anything about inventing it.

I said many things got carried around along with the Ottoman presence.

Which is probably also true with everyone else who ruled this island before the Ottomans.
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