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[Oracle]

None of the problems have anything to do with the RoC or a "title mess" as YFried claims.

This is sheer stupidity by the buyers. Sadly, they are rather old to benefit from this universally applicable experience ...

[Milo]

None of the problems have anything to do with the RoC or a "title mess" as YFried claims.

This is sheer stupidity by the buyers. Sadly, they are rather old to benefit from this universally applicable experience ...

Instead of going after the person responsible, they see the Brits/foreign buyers as easy targets. If Cypriots started to lose their new properties in their hundreds I suspect that alarm bells will go off.

The banks, lawyers and developers are all responsible for this insidious title deeds fiasco and all have their snouts in the same trough and as hard as it may be, it is only by stopping property sales that perhaps things might change.

If Joe Public is made aware of the lies and deceit perpetrated on innocent victims (because that's exactly what we are) and Cyprus is given a very wide berth maybe, just maybe the system will change.

If a mortgage, loan, or memo exists then instead of paying a developer/owner for your house (who may default payment to the bank) you hand your cheque to the bank who in turn hand over the deed. While the system allows for innocents to pay then this would at least protect them and make those who owe money PAY IT BACK THEMSELVES Simple solutions to a very unethical and widespread practice. Confidence would be returned and back the buyers would flock, until then its a dead dodo.

This case is not about the TD,s mess which is huge, but a part of a corrupt system which laughs in the face of a somewhat naive buyer, even IF they did wrong by not having a Lawyer and listening to an Agent, they should at least be able to go after those responsible notably the estate agents, and make them pay, but this is impossible here.

Btw they don,t ALL operate like this. But far too many do, there are thousands of court cases coming up that have been dragged on purposefully for years, media will pick up on too many similar property scams coming up. The RoC can do something about this and do it now. Damage limitation will be costly but bring back confidence maybe to the tune of 6-7 billion to pay back the banks loans, BUT they won,t let it happen again would they

While the good name of Cyprus is bismirched by these idiots any property we all own is devalueing at an alarming rate. They need, as my Russian friend says 'getting rid of '.

[Get Real!]

Must be one of the daftest British couples to ever arrive here!

Throw them out! They're too stupid to be living in Cyprus!

[beverley10]

Once again Milo speaks common sense without the nastiness that goes with other posters on here.You restore my faith in this forum Milo,keep it up.

None of the problems have anything to do with the RoC or a "title mess" as YFried claims.

This is sheer stupidity by the buyers. Sadly, they are rather old to benefit from this universally applicable experience ...

Instead of going after the person responsible, they see the Brits/foreign buyers as easy targets. If Cypriots started to lose their new properties in their hundreds I suspect that alarm bells will go off.

The banks, lawyers and developers are all responsible for this insidious title deeds fiasco and all have their snouts in the same trough and as hard as it may be, it is only by stopping property sales that perhaps things might change.

If Joe Public is made aware of the lies and deceit perpetrated on innocent victims (because that's exactly what we are) and Cyprus is given a very wide berth maybe, just maybe the system will change.

If a mortgage, loan, or memo exists then instead of paying a developer/owner for your house (who may default payment to the bank) you hand your cheque to the bank who in turn hand over the deed. While the system allows for innocents to pay then this would at least protect them and make those who owe money PAY IT BACK THEMSELVES Simple solutions to a very unethical and widespread practice. Confidence would be returned and back the buyers would flock, until then its a dead dodo.

This case is not about the TD,s mess which is huge, but a part of a corrupt system which laughs in the face of a somewhat naive buyer, even IF they did wrong by not having a Lawyer and listening to an Agent, they should at least be able to go after those responsible notably the estate agents, and make them pay, but this is impossible here.

Btw they don,t ALL operate like this. But far too many do, there are thousands of court cases coming up that have been dragged on purposefully for years, media will pick up on too many similar property scams coming up. The RoC can do something about this and do it now. Damage limitation will be costly but bring back confidence maybe to the tune of 6-7 billion to pay back the banks loans, BUT they won,t let it happen again would they

While the good name of Cyprus is bismirched by these idiots any property we all own is devalueing at an alarming rate. They need, as my Russian friend says 'getting rid of '.

[Milo]

Must be one of the daftest British couples to ever arrive here!

Throw them out! They're too stupid to be living in Cyprus!

Stupid maybe CRIMINAL no. We leave that to the very experts on the island that you have who go under various titles.

Mind you AFTER they have had their full retribution I,m sure along with an estimated 15000 they too will go others are currently trapped here unable to sell as they don,t have their F*****g Deeds.

Btw having a Lawyer would,nt have benefited the couple because and I say it for the thousandth time.................
LAWYERS IN CYPRUS ARE NOT OBLIGED TO DO A SEARCH ON THE DEEDS TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY LIENS OR MORTGAGES ON THE PROPERTY" and herein lies the problem

Mind you hun you did know that the Developers are In China don,t you? And Kuwait, Qatar and the awful Israel a few more places like Scandanavia but not many takers so far apparently. You will soon get some buyers BUT the Brits will warn them.......as they leave.

No Deeds No money

End of the gravy train

[Milo]

Once again Milo speaks common sense without the nastiness that goes with other posters on here.You restore my faith in this forum Milo,keep it up.

None of the problems have anything to do with the RoC or a "title mess" as YFried claims.

This is sheer stupidity by the buyers. Sadly, they are rather old to benefit from this universally applicable experience ...

Instead of going after the person responsible, they see the Brits/foreign buyers as easy targets. If Cypriots started to lose their new properties in their hundreds I suspect that alarm bells will go off.

The banks, lawyers and developers are all responsible for this insidious title deeds fiasco and all have their snouts in the same trough and as hard as it may be, it is only by stopping property sales that perhaps things might change.

If Joe Public is made aware of the lies and deceit perpetrated on innocent victims (because that's exactly what we are) and Cyprus is given a very wide berth maybe, just maybe the system will change.

If a mortgage, loan, or memo exists then instead of paying a developer/owner for your house (who may default payment to the bank) you hand your cheque to the bank who in turn hand over the deed. While the system allows for innocents to pay then this would at least protect them and make those who owe money PAY IT BACK THEMSELVES Simple solutions to a very unethical and widespread practice. Confidence would be returned and back the buyers would flock, until then its a dead dodo.

This case is not about the TD,s mess which is huge, but a part of a corrupt system which laughs in the face of a somewhat naive buyer, even IF they did wrong by not having a Lawyer and listening to an Agent, they should at least be able to go after those responsible notably the estate agents, and make them pay, but this is impossible here.

Btw they don,t ALL operate like this. But far too many do, there are thousands of court cases coming up that have been dragged on purposefully for years, media will pick up on too many similar property scams coming up. The RoC can do something about this and do it now. Damage limitation will be costly but bring back confidence maybe to the tune of 6-7 billion to pay back the banks loans, BUT they won,t let it happen again would they

While the good name of Cyprus is bismirched by these idiots any property we all own is devalueing at an alarming rate. They need, as my Russian friend says 'getting rid of '.

This used to be a good Forum Bev, now its .......different

[Oracle]

Oh looky!

It's the matronly moaning Milo and bullish busybody Beverley bungling-builders burlesque double act!!

Hooorraayy!

--- with all the latest -- but, not greatest -- on why they honour Cyprus Forum with their burdensome performances!

[Milo]

-- on why they honour Cyprus Forum with their burdensome performances!

One reason is cause it pisses you off

And Amen to that

The second reason is to balance things up a bit, which again pisses you off

The main reason is, cause I can This also pisses you off.

So get the incontinence pants back on and prepare for battle, when I,ve got the time that is, BFN

Been away a while did you miss me? I so missed your charming intellectual load of bollocks. Gasman may have gone but Milo is back Hey what shall we talk about though, not much happening is there??? Quite quite boring yawwwwwwnnnnnnnnn

[yialousa1971]

-- on why they honour Cyprus Forum with their burdensome performances!

One reason is cause it pisses you off

And Amen to that

The second reason is to balance things up a bit, which again pisses you off

The main reason is, cause I can This also pisses you off.

So get the incontinence pants back on and prepare for battle, when I,ve got the time that is, BFN

Been away a while did you miss me? I so missed your charming intellectual load of bollocks. Gasman may have gone but Milo is back Hey what shall we talk about though, not much happening is there??? Quite quite boring yawwwwwwnnnnnnnnn

Back from Iran? You should be under house arrest!

[Milo]

-- on why they honour Cyprus Forum with their burdensome performances!

One reason is cause it pisses you off

And Amen to that

The second reason is to balance things up a bit, which again pisses you off

The main reason is, cause I can This also pisses you off.

So get the incontinence pants back on and prepare for battle, when I,ve got the time that is, BFN

Been away a while did you miss me? I so missed your charming intellectual load of bollocks. Gasman may have gone but Milo is back Hey what shall we talk about though, not much happening is there??? Quite quite boring yawwwwwwnnnnnnnnn

Back from Iran? You should be under house arrest!

Never been to Iran in my life, just back from the UK Anyway the Yanks are about to bomb Iran who would go there? Also been to China that was unusual and different, but it was business. Where have you been lately?