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Postby CBBB » Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:24 am

Milo wrote:Dear Mr Attorney-GeneralI

In an open letter to the Cyprus Attorney General, Petros Clerides, Gavin Jones wants to know what it will take to get a reply to his complaint filed with the Disciplinary Board of Advocates a year ago.

IN COMMON with many people who have contacted me, Gavin Jones has considerable difficulties in getting an answer to a complaint he has lodged with the Disciplinary Board of Advocates. (You may also find the article by Antonis Louizou entitled ‘Well meaning or crooked lawyers’ interesting).

IN JUNE this year, you were interviewed by the Sunday Mail and were quoted as saying that ‘my only goal is to leave this post and have a good name, nothing more‘. In order to assist you in achieving this ambition, I would ask you to consider some serious issues which may well prevent you from realising your objective, together with some suggestions for removing these constraints.

I should, however, declare that I have a number of grievances with the justice system in Cyprus that are but examples of a generic malaise of which countless others are also casualties.

Twelve months ago almost to the day, I sent you, in your role as President of the Disciplinary Board of Advocates, all the corroborative evidence that would have enabled the Board to seriously consider striking off, fining and launching criminal proceedings for gross malpractice and fraud against the lawyer of my late Cypriot mother. Despite my original letter, follow-up correspondence and telephone calls, I have heard nothing.

It would appear that the Disciplinary Board has chosen to ignore the detailed evidence laid before it and has allowed a member of the Cyprus Bar Association to continue practicing.

Does the Disciplinary Board have any intention of ever addressing the fact that my deceased mother’s lawyer submitted false affidavits to the court without a death certificate and eliminated me as an executor of her will?

He also stated that he couldn’t locate me and that she’d died in England in 1998 when in reality she died in Paphos in 2007. Will there be an investigation as to how Paphos District Court authorised this lawyer to obtain ‘legal’ control over my mother’s affairs without demanding sight of a death certificate which would have proved conclusively that his affidavits were fraudulent?

Will I be recompensed for the inconvenience of having to obtain legal advice, return to court, remove my mother’s lawyer as sole executor and have myself reinstated as executor?

Are we to believe that the Disciplinary Board doesn’t take its duties seriously enough and is so overloaded with complaints that it is unable to process these within a reasonable timescale?

The Board presides over a body of barely 2,000 members and yet it has taken 52 weeks and no resolution to my case has been forthcoming.

Some would say that my mother’s and other lawyers who have been cited for fraudulent and negligent behaviour may well have powerful and influential allies. I’d like to think that this isn’t the case but inaction naturally invites such speculation.

As the Board gives the impression of acting in the best interests of its members rather than protecting their clients and the public, it suggests that this reticence to speedily confront fraud head-on within the profession has become institutionalised

You and your Board members may be unaware of the general consensus that a great many Cypriot lawyers are considered self-serving and untrustworthy pariahs and that their professional body, the Cyprus Bar Association, puts their interests firmly above those of the public.

This cosy modus operandi might have been the norm and considered acceptable when Nicosia, Limassol and Paphos were nothing more than oversized villages. In those days our ancestors ‘fixed’ situations with impunity. But times have changed and standards and expectations have risen

If you wish to leave the post of Attorney General with ‘a good name, nothing more’, the Disciplinary Board of Advocates and the Cyprus Bar Association should take a good look at themselves and make the necessary changes so that they’re seen to be part of the solution and not part of the problem.

An avalanche of questions is being raised in the European Parliament about many negative aspects of the administration and delivery of justice here.

The choices are clear-cut. The current judicial regime can remain untouched or else reforms can be introduced which will inject some extra credibility into the legal system to ensure that justice is done and seen to be done.

As a reformist, you will most certainly leave the post of Attorney General with ‘a good name’. I therefore urge you and your colleagues to make the right choice.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Yours sincerely

Gavin Jones
Paphos


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Postby Milo » Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:44 am

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Milo wrote:Dear Mr Attorney-GeneralI

In an open letter to the Cyprus Attorney General, Petros Clerides, Gavin Jones wants to know what it will take to get a reply to his complaint filed with the Disciplinary Board of Advocates a year ago.

IN COMMON with many people who have contacted me, Gavin Jones has considerable difficulties in getting an answer to a complaint he has lodged with the Disciplinary Board of Advocates. (You may also find the article by Antonis Louizou entitled ‘Well meaning or crooked lawyers’ interesting).

IN JUNE this year, you were interviewed by the Sunday Mail and were quoted as saying that ‘my only goal is to leave this post and have a good name, nothing more‘. In order to assist you in achieving this ambition, I would ask you to consider some serious issues which may well prevent you from realising your objective, together with some suggestions for removing these constraints.

I should, however, declare that I have a number of grievances with the justice system in Cyprus that are but examples of a generic malaise of which countless others are also casualties.

Twelve months ago almost to the day, I sent you, in your role as President of the Disciplinary Board of Advocates, all the corroborative evidence that would have enabled the Board to seriously consider striking off, fining and launching criminal proceedings for gross malpractice and fraud against the lawyer of my late Cypriot mother. Despite my original letter, follow-up correspondence and telephone calls, I have heard nothing.

It would appear that the Disciplinary Board has chosen to ignore the detailed evidence laid before it and has allowed a member of the Cyprus Bar Association to continue practicing.

Does the Disciplinary Board have any intention of ever addressing the fact that my deceased mother’s lawyer submitted false affidavits to the court without a death certificate and eliminated me as an executor of her will?

He also stated that he couldn’t locate me and that she’d died in England in 1998 when in reality she died in Paphos in 2007. Will there be an investigation as to how Paphos District Court authorised this lawyer to obtain ‘legal’ control over my mother’s affairs without demanding sight of a death certificate which would have proved conclusively that his affidavits were fraudulent?

Will I be recompensed for the inconvenience of having to obtain legal advice, return to court, remove my mother’s lawyer as sole executor and have myself reinstated as executor?

Are we to believe that the Disciplinary Board doesn’t take its duties seriously enough and is so overloaded with complaints that it is unable to process these within a reasonable timescale?

The Board presides over a body of barely 2,000 members and yet it has taken 52 weeks and no resolution to my case has been forthcoming.

Some would say that my mother’s and other lawyers who have been cited for fraudulent and negligent behaviour may well have powerful and influential allies. I’d like to think that this isn’t the case but inaction naturally invites such speculation.

As the Board gives the impression of acting in the best interests of its members rather than protecting their clients and the public, it suggests that this reticence to speedily confront fraud head-on within the profession has become institutionalised

You and your Board members may be unaware of the general consensus that a great many Cypriot lawyers are considered self-serving and untrustworthy pariahs and that their professional body, the Cyprus Bar Association, puts their interests firmly above those of the public.

This cosy modus operandi might have been the norm and considered acceptable when Nicosia, Limassol and Paphos were nothing more than oversized villages. In those days our ancestors ‘fixed’ situations with impunity. But times have changed and standards and expectations have risen

If you wish to leave the post of Attorney General with ‘a good name, nothing more’, the Disciplinary Board of Advocates and the Cyprus Bar Association should take a good look at themselves and make the necessary changes so that they’re seen to be part of the solution and not part of the problem.

An avalanche of questions is being raised in the European Parliament about many negative aspects of the administration and delivery of justice here.

The choices are clear-cut. The current judicial regime can remain untouched or else reforms can be introduced which will inject some extra credibility into the legal system to ensure that justice is done and seen to be done.

As a reformist, you will most certainly leave the post of Attorney General with ‘a good name’. I therefore urge you and your colleagues to make the right choice.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Yours sincerely

Gavin Jones
Paphos


http://www.news.cyprus-property-buyers. ... /id=005548?


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Postby CBBB » Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:29 am

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Postby Jack M » Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:59 pm

So another lying scumbag lawyer crawls to the suface through the shit he/she inhabits.

Still being allowed to practice after having been shown to have lied to the court to de-fraud an estate and add a bit more stolen money to his/her bank account. Is there no end to the corrupt practices by the legal 'profession' in Cyprus?

Gavin Jones' mother a Cypriot too, smothered to death in hospital then her estate plundered by a piece of filthy scum. What a legacy!

Does Cyprus have no shame? What a way to treat its citizens.
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Postby TC666 » Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:21 pm

excuse me jack. It is not cyprus that has the shame, it is those who administer the justice system. when you consider that some of them actually killed people and threw them into dry wells, it gives ou an idea what we are dealing with. you then ask yourself why these fascists on this forum actually stick up for such eoka scum. now that is what i cannot understand.
perhaps one of them can explain it to us so we can all understand. field is yours boys and witch.
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Postby Jerry » Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:28 pm

TC666 wrote:excuse me jack. It is not cyprus that has the shame, it is those who administer the justice system. when you consider that some of them actually killed people and threw them into dry wells, it gives ou an idea what we are dealing with. you then ask yourself why these fascists on this forum actually stick up for such eoka scum. now that is what i cannot understand.
perhaps one of them can explain it to us so we can all understand. field is yours boys and witch.


Welcome back Fred, still posting your "thought provoking" posts I see. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby shahmaran » Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:43 pm

Jerry wrote:
TC666 wrote:excuse me jack. It is not cyprus that has the shame, it is those who administer the justice system. when you consider that some of them actually killed people and threw them into dry wells, it gives ou an idea what we are dealing with. you then ask yourself why these fascists on this forum actually stick up for such eoka scum. now that is what i cannot understand.
perhaps one of them can explain it to us so we can all understand. field is yours boys and witch.


Welcome back Fred, still posting your "thought provoking" posts I see. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Challenge his words not his persona, I dare you.
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Postby CBBB » Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:54 pm

shahmaran wrote:
Jerry wrote:
TC666 wrote:excuse me jack. It is not cyprus that has the shame, it is those who administer the justice system. when you consider that some of them actually killed people and threw them into dry wells, it gives ou an idea what we are dealing with. you then ask yourself why these fascists on this forum actually stick up for such eoka scum. now that is what i cannot understand.
perhaps one of them can explain it to us so we can all understand. field is yours boys and witch.


Welcome back Fred, still posting your "thought provoking" posts I see. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Challenge his words not his persona, I dare you.


Show me who stood up for these actions. I haven't seen any posts supporting this.

Ignore YIdiot, he is too busy screwing his donkeys and dogs!
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Postby shahmaran » Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:01 pm

CBBB wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Jerry wrote:
TC666 wrote:excuse me jack. It is not cyprus that has the shame, it is those who administer the justice system. when you consider that some of them actually killed people and threw them into dry wells, it gives ou an idea what we are dealing with. you then ask yourself why these fascists on this forum actually stick up for such eoka scum. now that is what i cannot understand.
perhaps one of them can explain it to us so we can all understand. field is yours boys and witch.


Welcome back Fred, still posting your "thought provoking" posts I see. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Challenge his words not his persona, I dare you.


Show me who stood up for these actions. I haven't seen any posts supporting this.

Ignore YIdiot, he is too busy screwing his donkeys and dogs!


Who stood up when they were murdering TC civilians? Is that what you are asking?
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Postby Jerry » Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:08 pm

shahmaran wrote:
Jerry wrote:
TC666 wrote:excuse me jack. It is not cyprus that has the shame, it is those who administer the justice system. when you consider that some of them actually killed people and threw them into dry wells, it gives ou an idea what we are dealing with. you then ask yourself why these fascists on this forum actually stick up for such eoka scum. now that is what i cannot understand.
perhaps one of them can explain it to us so we can all understand. field is yours boys and witch.


Welcome back Fred, still posting your "thought provoking" posts I see. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Challenge his words not his persona, I dare you.


Done that, been there many times. Both sides can spout horror stories, we just go round and round in circles.
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