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Turkish Cypriot or Turk we will be here to respond and dont think for one minute it will be with cups of tea.

[Simon]

Georgios, ma eisai telia malakas re???

We are a soveriegn nation and we can't have a defence force? are you for F real??

We are not talking about attacking anyone, but we need some defence capability for gods sake.

What about all the wealth this side of the line, banks, governments, infrastructure, who will look after them?

We have an emeny ay the door, and you want us to down arms?? God some people are so stupid.

Instead of petitioning the enemy to down arms and get off our island, you seek to suggest we should pull down our trousers and bend for this stinking turks re??

Get out of my face before I really say something I may regret.

TC666= Yfuck, go fuck yourself. You'll do better on the Crap44 forum where all your little cronies will agree with you and make you feel big.

Georgios, people like you make me ashamed to be GC, its not enough we have the turks to worry about, now we got our own.

What a STUPID thread!!!!

Don't forget, that without a Military, Cyprus will be unable to defend vital natural resources interests within its EEZ. No NAVY or Cyprus National Guard Air Wing, then no OIL and no GAS.

No MILITARY = No Country

Not only is the CNG vital for defence, claiming an EEZ, anti terrorism, and surveillance, but defence expenditure should be at least doubled, if not be between 6-10% of GDP. Get rid of some useless public servants instead.

Also, the S-300s MUST be re-deployed in Cyprus, and Cyprus should procure the more capable S-400s from Russia, purchase more Russian attack choppers [Mi-28] and Anti Ship and area Air Defence missile carrying Fast Attack Craft and also consider the acquisition of 3-4 Corvettes. In other words, there needs to be a very rapid expansion of Sea and Air elements, and more investment into Special Forces such as OYK.

Furthermore, Cyprus needs to expand on its strategic alliance with Israel, and invest in more Israeli Military technologies such as the Heron UAV and perhaps participate in some joint consortiums. Investment is also required in missile carrying UAVs such as the Predator. Israel will be by far, the nation's most important strategic ally within the next four years, and Cyprus will naturally, by extension be able to be an excellent medium or bridge between the Israelis and Palestinians.

Far better to have alliances with Israel than rely on that bitch of a country called Greece, which has just capitulated in the Aegean.

If we start behaving like Greece, then we don't deserve a country!!!

Re Paphiti, how has Greece capitulated?

[georgios100]

Hallo georgios100

Reduction of the force does not mean abolishment.

Suggesting reduction to an ineffective level is the same as proposing abolishment is it not?

Unlike many that think defence, Turkey thinks of us as a thread (having missiles that can reach Ankara).

Is that why Turkey invaded Cyprus? Did Cyprus threaten bombing Ankara?

A reasonable reduction which the ROC can afford is the target here. The new announced expenditures to purchase new tanks (or used from Russia) is pointless. I just don't see how that would help our cause. Right now our "defence capabilities" are about a week's worth of resistance. Getting more weapons would give us what? Another week? OK, that's 2 weeks, plenty of time for outside help to arrive... from whom? By the time that help comes (if it comes), Cyprus would to obliterated by the relentless air campaign & artillery. Any which way you see it, we are done.

Tiny small countries like Cyprus should promote peace & good relations with nearby nations to avert war. It is the only way to go about it. We are just too small to defend against any threat, especially Turkey.

While we are boosting our military capability, we are, at the same time, demanding the removal of the occupying Turkish troops. Does that make any sense to anyone on this board? We are sending the wrong signals out there.

A change of strategy is required. The GC leadership is handling this whole thing the wrong way. That's why Cyprob lasted 36 years (so far). We need fresh ideas simply because the ones we have now just don't work.

CF is so far trench warfare forum. GCs vs TCs battling it out... I have yet to read an interesting thread were reasonable posters can exchange honest views without swearing at each other. I know this has been addressed before but, for crying out loud, can anyone come up with a better way to talk to each other instead of fighting all the time?

Georgios100

[georgios100]

Hallo georgios100

Reduction of the force does not mean abolishment.

Suggesting reduction to an ineffective level is the same as proposing abolishment is it not?

Unlike many that think defence, Turkey thinks of us as a thread (having missiles that can reach Ankara).

Is that why Turkey invaded Cyprus? Did Cyprus threaten bombing Ankara?

A reasonable reduction which the ROC can afford is the target here. The new announced expenditures to purchase new tanks (or used from Russia) is pointless. I just don't see how that would help our cause. Right now our "defence capabilities" are about a week's worth of resistance. Getting more weapons would give us what? Another week? OK, that's 2 weeks, plenty of time for outside help to arrive... from whom? By the time that help comes (if it comes), Cyprus would to obliterated by the relentless air campaign & artillery. Any which way you see it, we are done.

Tiny small countries like Cyprus should promote peace & good relations with nearby nations to avert war. It is the only way to go about it. We are just too small to defend against any threat, especially Turkey.

While we are boosting our military capability, we are, at the same time, demanding the removal of the occupying Turkish troops. Does that make any sense to anyone on this board? We are sending the wrong signals out there.

A change of strategy is required. The GC leadership is handling this whole thing the wrong way. That's why Cyprob lasted 36 years (so far). We need fresh ideas simply because the ones we have now just don't work.

CF is so far trench warfare forum. GCs vs TCs battling it out... I have yet to read an interesting thread were reasonable posters can exchange honest views without swearing at each other. I know this has been addressed before but, for crying out loud, can anyone come up with a better way to talk to each other instead of fighting all the time?

Georgios100

[Paphitis]

Georgios, ma eisai telia malakas re???

We are a soveriegn nation and we can't have a defence force? are you for F real??

We are not talking about attacking anyone, but we need some defence capability for gods sake.

What about all the wealth this side of the line, banks, governments, infrastructure, who will look after them?

We have an emeny ay the door, and you want us to down arms?? God some people are so stupid.

Instead of petitioning the enemy to down arms and get off our island, you seek to suggest we should pull down our trousers and bend for this stinking turks re??

Get out of my face before I really say something I may regret.

TC666= Yfuck, go fuck yourself. You'll do better on the Crap44 forum where all your little cronies will agree with you and make you feel big.

Georgios, people like you make me ashamed to be GC, its not enough we have the turks to worry about, now we got our own.

What a STUPID thread!!!!

Don't forget, that without a Military, Cyprus will be unable to defend vital natural resources interests within its EEZ. No NAVY or Cyprus National Guard Air Wing, then no OIL and no GAS.

No MILITARY = No Country

Not only is the CNG vital for defence, claiming an EEZ, anti terrorism, and surveillance, but defence expenditure should be at least doubled, if not be between 6-10% of GDP. Get rid of some useless public servants instead.

Also, the S-300s MUST be re-deployed in Cyprus, and Cyprus should procure the more capable S-400s from Russia, purchase more Russian attack choppers [Mi-28] and Anti Ship and area Air Defence missile carrying Fast Attack Craft and also consider the acquisition of 3-4 Corvettes. In other words, there needs to be a very rapid expansion of Sea and Air elements, and more investment into Special Forces such as OYK.

Furthermore, Cyprus needs to expand on its strategic alliance with Israel, and invest in more Israeli Military technologies such as the Heron UAV and perhaps participate in some joint consortiums. Investment is also required in missile carrying UAVs such as the Predator. Israel will be by far, the nation's most important strategic ally within the next four years, and Cyprus will naturally, by extension be able to be an excellent medium or bridge between the Israelis and Palestinians.

Far better to have alliances with Israel than rely on that bitch of a country called Greece, which has just capitulated in the Aegean.

If we start behaving like Greece, then we don't deserve a country!!!

Re Paphiti, how has Greece capitulated?

The fucking cowards went to Ankara and kissed Turkish butt! Political analysts are predicting that Greece will renounce its rights under the Law of the Sea to claim 12nms of Territorial Sovereign Waters in exchange of the lifting of the Casus Belli against Greece!

Cowards!!!

[Paphitis]

Hallo georgios100

Reduction of the force does not mean abolishment.

Suggesting reduction to an ineffective level is the same as proposing abolishment is it not?

Unlike many that think defence, Turkey thinks of us as a thread (having missiles that can reach Ankara).

Is that why Turkey invaded Cyprus? Did Cyprus threaten bombing Ankara?

A reasonable reduction which the ROC can afford is the target here. The new announced expenditures to purchase new tanks (or used from Russia) is pointless. I just don't see how that would help our cause. Right now our "defence capabilities" are about a week's worth of resistance. Getting more weapons would give us what? Another week? OK, that's 2 weeks, plenty of time for outside help to arrive... from whom? By the time that help comes (if it comes), Cyprus would to obliterated by the relentless air campaign & artillery. Any which way you see it, we are done.

Tiny small countries like Cyprus should promote peace & good relations with nearby nations to avert war. It is the only way to go about it. We are just too small to defend against any threat, especially Turkey.

While we are boosting our military capability, we are, at the same time, demanding the removal of the occupying Turkish troops. Does that make any sense to anyone on this board? We are sending the wrong signals out there.

A change of strategy is required. The GC leadership is handling this whole thing the wrong way. That's why Cyprob lasted 36 years (so far). We need fresh ideas simply because the ones we have now just don't work.

CF is so far trench warfare forum. GCs vs TCs battling it out... I have yet to read an interesting thread were reasonable posters can exchange honest views without swearing at each other. I know this has been addressed before but, for crying out loud, can anyone come up with a better way to talk to each other instead of fighting all the time?

Georgios100

You don't know what you're talking about so please go back to sleep!

The S-300 is an offensive weapon only when one is pointing directly up your arse and fired up your bum!

Now piss off, and do some research! Idiot!

[georgios100]

Here is a quick reaserch, see for yourself.

Comparison with other countries VS Cyprus.

Cyprus military per GDP - 3.68%. We are the champions, Greece is second on the list.

Cyprus tops the list. Yet, we are ordering more weapons… Why?

http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=wb- ... UX:HND:CHL

Georgios100

[Get Real!]

Here is a quick reaserch, see for yourself.

Comparison with other countries VS Cyprus.

Cyprus military per GDP - 3.68%. We are the champions, Greece is second on the list.

Cyprus tops the list. Yet, we are ordering more weapons… Why?

http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=wb- ... UX:HND:CHL

Georgios100

Not according to this...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... penditures

[Paphitis]

Here is a quick reaserch, see for yourself.

Comparison with other countries VS Cyprus.

Cyprus military per GDP - 3.68%. We are the champions, Greece is second on the list.

Cyprus tops the list. Yet, we are ordering more weapons… Why?

http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=wb- ... UX:HND:CHL

Georgios100

What do you fucking think Einstein?

3.68% isn't really a big spend on defence anyway, but if Australia had 37% of its territory under occupation I bet it would spend a hell of a lot more than 3.68%, and you can also bet that Aussies won't behave like defeatists little pricks like you!

We don't do suicide! If you have had enough, then I suggest you put a noose around your head, because most Cypriots want a fighting chance.

[georgios100]

Conflicting results from military stats... depends who the source is.

Either way, I am confident 3.68% of GDP is accurate, was up to 14% approx 10-12 tears ago.

Can we really afford this?

Part of Greece's financial meltdown are the Hugh military expenses to confront Turkey's war appetite.

How real is an imminent war vs Greece/Turkey/Cyprus?