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[Get Real!]

but what I was trying to say is that we don't have the luxury of been strong. Therefor its not point of screaming and shouting and barking like dogs that soonest you throw them a stone they run away. The best fight for us is to forget the past and sit down to talk with our fellow neighbors whether we like it or not, to find solution and ways how we can peacefully leave together.

If you think it is wise to sit down with the intruder of your house to discuss/negotiate which hours he can access your wife, daughters and the TV while you’re absent, go for your life but don’t expect us all to follow your foolish and disgraceful ways…

[Get Real!]

The Cyprus issue can be solved in a satisfactory way only through talks and never through the use of arms. If we make the same mistake as before and take up arms, our country will be lost for ever. It is amazing that we should talk about something all sane persons know.

Even if we could win a war with Turkey, I would say stay away from arms, because any war will only prepare the ground for the next one. We need peace which in time will create normal people who will only laugh at the stupidity of their ancestors who wasted their short time on this planet scheming at removing the most valuable asset nature gave us. Life.

War is sometimes a necessity even when the odds are against you, and especially when it is being forced against you as in the case of Cyprus.

What I find astonishing is the level some will sink to as a result of an absence of a backbone!

[Get Real!]

According to the way the so called National Guard have failed to stand up to Turkiye in the past, I would say their sole purpose was to Hold hands and exchange flowers - don't you think?

I've already posted an expert's report of what they thought of the Turkish military so I wouldn’t bring that up if I were you!

NB: Report available upon request.

What a bunch of fools they are. I spent two days on the Green Line as a foriegn journalist and was shocked to see how ineffective the Greek Cypriot National Guard are - try scared, stupied and sleepy!

As an ex NG soldier and long time reservist, I can honestly say that you’re full of shit!

[B25]

Here is a suggestion for the RoC, implement a tax on property of all those living overseas to further fund our military.

Since those people are not here to contribute and are out of any harms way, then the least they could do is make higher contributions.

What do you reckon, a brain wave or what!!!

The RoC needs to arm itself to the teeth, we need a defence thats to be reckoned with. We have no need to attack anyone, but others may wish to cause us harm.

Georgios, if you cannot see that, my respect for you was wasted.

Irrespective of Israel or any other alliances, we need to look after ourselves first and foremost, without depending upon others. If we get outside help, great, but we need to be prepared.

B25

Why are you getting upset? If you read carefully what I posted you might reconsider your position.

I am suggesting a better trained & professional force in lieu of what the CNG is now. I am not suggesting to abolish the CNG, God no! Merely to take another look at it and make it even better with less bodies & more punch. Make it professional.

A professional soldier can replace 5 of the young guys enlisted every 6 months. These young guys enlist because it's mandatory. I did 28 months, I know all about it. These guys see their service in the CNG is an "aggaria" rather than duty for their country and can't wait to be discharged so they can go about their lives... If this is the defending force required for Cyprus, well, for you it might be OK but for me it is inadequate.

A professional CNG can cost less and do a better job. Most importantly, it can defend this country. Now, if you can evaluate along these lines, we can talk.

PS. I probably pay more for defense in Cyprus than you do & still live in Canada, that's a fact my friend.

Hde re georgio re, ma eisai me ta kalla sou re?

2000 or so, supposed 'proffessionals' against 30,000 or so conscripts.

Tell me just who will do the carrying and fetching, even the logistics of movement of men and machines would become impossible, never mind the fighting.

If I was a turk I would be praying to allah that the GCs were that stupid to reduce their numbers after all what would you rather face 30,000 (or whatever our number is now) machine guns shooting at you or just 2000?? I know which I would choose.

perhaps we need to professionalise what we got, but down size, no chance koumbare.

Like I said, we need to help ourselves first before we even expect anyone to help us and increased spending on defence is a must and must rise. We have the enemy at the door.

[Get Real!]

Forget George people… he’s completely lost it!

That’s what happens when you’re too many years away from home…

[Bananiot]

Well, GR has already told us how we should engage Turkey in war, in another thread. Start the war, he told us, and when our casualties reach 20 000, call it off!

People who contemplate war are playing the same game as the Turkish nationalists. They have always been and still are the scourge of Cyprus.

[georgios100]

Here is a suggestion for the RoC, implement a tax on property of all those living overseas to further fund our military.

Since those people are not here to contribute and are out of any harms way, then the least they could do is make higher contributions.

What do you reckon, a brain wave or what!!!

The RoC needs to arm itself to the teeth, we need a defence thats to be reckoned with. We have no need to attack anyone, but others may wish to cause us harm.

Georgios, if you cannot see that, my respect for you was wasted.

Irrespective of Israel or any other alliances, we need to look after ourselves first and foremost, without depending upon others. If we get outside help, great, but we need to be prepared.

B25

Why are you getting upset? If you read carefully what I posted you might reconsider your position.

I am suggesting a better trained & professional force in lieu of what the CNG is now. I am not suggesting to abolish the CNG, God no! Merely to take another look at it and make it even better with less bodies & more punch. Make it professional.

A professional soldier can replace 5 of the young guys enlisted every 6 months. These young guys enlist because it's mandatory. I did 28 months, I know all about it. These guys see their service in the CNG is an "aggaria" rather than duty for their country and can't wait to be discharged so they can go about their lives... If this is the defending force required for Cyprus, well, for you it might be OK but for me it is inadequate.

A professional CNG can cost less and do a better job. Most importantly, it can defend this country. Now, if you can evaluate along these lines, we can talk.

PS. I probably pay more for defense in Cyprus than you do & still live in Canada, that's a fact my friend.

Hde re georgio re, ma eisai me ta kalla sou re?

2000 or so, supposed 'proffessionals' against 30,000 or so conscripts.

Tell me just who will do the carrying and fetching, even the logistics of movement of men and machines would become impossible, never mind the fighting.

If I was a turk I would be praying to allah that the GCs were that stupid to reduce their numbers after all what would you rather face 30,000 (or whatever our number is now) machine guns shooting at you or just 2000?? I know which I would choose.

perhaps we need to professionalise what we got, but down size, no chance koumbare.

Like I said, we need to help ourselves first before we even expect anyone to help us and increased spending on defence is a must and must rise. We have the enemy at the door.

I never said to reduce the CNGdown to 2000 men... that's Paphitis numbers & calculations!

Today, the 2011 Cyprus budget was published, a 3% reduction in defense in included. Don't say, I told you so, but it is warranted in times of recession.

[denizaksulu]

Here is a suggestion for the RoC, implement a tax on property of all those living overseas to further fund our military.

Since those people are not here to contribute and are out of any harms way, then the least they could do is make higher contributions.

What do you reckon, a brain wave or what!!!

The RoC needs to arm itself to the teeth, we need a defence thats to be reckoned with. We have no need to attack anyone, but others may wish to cause us harm.

Georgios, if you cannot see that, my respect for you was wasted.

Irrespective of Israel or any other alliances, we need to look after ourselves first and foremost, without depending upon others. If we get outside help, great, but we need to be prepared.

B25

Why are you getting upset? If you read carefully what I posted you might reconsider your position.

I am suggesting a better trained & professional force in lieu of what the CNG is now. I am not suggesting to abolish the CNG, God no! Merely to take another look at it and make it even better with less bodies & more punch. Make it professional.

A professional soldier can replace 5 of the young guys enlisted every 6 months. These young guys enlist because it's mandatory. I did 28 months, I know all about it. These guys see their service in the CNG is an "aggaria" rather than duty for their country and can't wait to be discharged so they can go about their lives... If this is the defending force required for Cyprus, well, for you it might be OK but for me it is inadequate.

A professional CNG can cost less and do a better job. Most importantly, it can defend this country. Now, if you can evaluate along these lines, we can talk.

PS. I probably pay more for defense in Cyprus than you do & still live in Canada, that's a fact my friend.

Hde re georgio re, ma eisai me ta kalla sou re?

2000 or so, supposed 'proffessionals' against 30,000 or so conscripts.

Tell me just who will do the carrying and fetching, even the logistics of movement of men and machines would become impossible, never mind the fighting.

If I was a turk I would be praying to allah that the GCs were that stupid to reduce their numbers after all what would you rather face 30,000 (or whatever our number is now) machine guns shooting at you or just 2000?? I know which I would choose.

perhaps we need to professionalise what we got, but down size, no chance koumbare.

Like I said, we need to help ourselves first before we even expect anyone to help us and increased spending on defence is a must and must rise. We have the enemy at the door.

If I were you, I would not say 'at the door', I would say they are in 'your lounge' and you are pushed into the kitchen where you are always 'cooking' something. (metephorically speaking ofcourse)

[B25]

Here is a suggestion for the RoC, implement a tax on property of all those living overseas to further fund our military.

Since those people are not here to contribute and are out of any harms way, then the least they could do is make higher contributions.

What do you reckon, a brain wave or what!!!

The RoC needs to arm itself to the teeth, we need a defence thats to be reckoned with. We have no need to attack anyone, but others may wish to cause us harm.

Georgios, if you cannot see that, my respect for you was wasted.

Irrespective of Israel or any other alliances, we need to look after ourselves first and foremost, without depending upon others. If we get outside help, great, but we need to be prepared.

B25

Why are you getting upset? If you read carefully what I posted you might reconsider your position.

I am suggesting a better trained & professional force in lieu of what the CNG is now. I am not suggesting to abolish the CNG, God no! Merely to take another look at it and make it even better with less bodies & more punch. Make it professional.

A professional soldier can replace 5 of the young guys enlisted every 6 months. These young guys enlist because it's mandatory. I did 28 months, I know all about it. These guys see their service in the CNG is an "aggaria" rather than duty for their country and can't wait to be discharged so they can go about their lives... If this is the defending force required for Cyprus, well, for you it might be OK but for me it is inadequate.

A professional CNG can cost less and do a better job. Most importantly, it can defend this country. Now, if you can evaluate along these lines, we can talk.

PS. I probably pay more for defense in Cyprus than you do & still live in Canada, that's a fact my friend.

Hde re georgio re, ma eisai me ta kalla sou re?

2000 or so, supposed 'proffessionals' against 30,000 or so conscripts.

Tell me just who will do the carrying and fetching, even the logistics of movement of men and machines would become impossible, never mind the fighting.

If I was a turk I would be praying to allah that the GCs were that stupid to reduce their numbers after all what would you rather face 30,000 (or whatever our number is now) machine guns shooting at you or just 2000?? I know which I would choose.

perhaps we need to professionalise what we got, but down size, no chance koumbare.

Like I said, we need to help ourselves first before we even expect anyone to help us and increased spending on defence is a must and must rise. We have the enemy at the door.

If I were you, I would not say 'at the door', I would say they are in 'your lounge' and you are pushed into the kitchen where you are always 'cooking' something. (metephorically speaking ofcourse)

Deniz, thank you for confirming what I have always said, they are inside where they don't belong and we need to act, cheers.

Nekatota with ambelopoulia will do just fine.

[denizaksulu]

Here is a suggestion for the RoC, implement a tax on property of all those living overseas to further fund our military.

Since those people are not here to contribute and are out of any harms way, then the least they could do is make higher contributions.

What do you reckon, a brain wave or what!!!

The RoC needs to arm itself to the teeth, we need a defence thats to be reckoned with. We have no need to attack anyone, but others may wish to cause us harm.

Georgios, if you cannot see that, my respect for you was wasted.

Irrespective of Israel or any other alliances, we need to look after ourselves first and foremost, without depending upon others. If we get outside help, great, but we need to be prepared.

B25

Why are you getting upset? If you read carefully what I posted you might reconsider your position.

I am suggesting a better trained & professional force in lieu of what the CNG is now. I am not suggesting to abolish the CNG, God no! Merely to take another look at it and make it even better with less bodies & more punch. Make it professional.

A professional soldier can replace 5 of the young guys enlisted every 6 months. These young guys enlist because it's mandatory. I did 28 months, I know all about it. These guys see their service in the CNG is an "aggaria" rather than duty for their country and can't wait to be discharged so they can go about their lives... If this is the defending force required for Cyprus, well, for you it might be OK but for me it is inadequate.

A professional CNG can cost less and do a better job. Most importantly, it can defend this country. Now, if you can evaluate along these lines, we can talk.

PS. I probably pay more for defense in Cyprus than you do & still live in Canada, that's a fact my friend.

Hde re georgio re, ma eisai me ta kalla sou re?

2000 or so, supposed 'proffessionals' against 30,000 or so conscripts.

Tell me just who will do the carrying and fetching, even the logistics of movement of men and machines would become impossible, never mind the fighting.

If I was a turk I would be praying to allah that the GCs were that stupid to reduce their numbers after all what would you rather face 30,000 (or whatever our number is now) machine guns shooting at you or just 2000?? I know which I would choose.

perhaps we need to professionalise what we got, but down size, no chance koumbare.

Like I said, we need to help ourselves first before we even expect anyone to help us and increased spending on defence is a must and must rise. We have the enemy at the door.

If I were you, I would not say 'at the door', I would say they are in 'your lounge' and you are pushed into the kitchen where you are always 'cooking' something. (metephorically speaking ofcourse)

Deniz, thank you for confirming what I have always said, they are inside where they don't belong and we need to act, cheers.

Nekatota with ambelopoulia will do just fine.

To the chagrin of my fellow TC, I am never the one to deny the truth. I would not even try to justify all that has happened. I wish more GCs would do the same.