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Ecevit’s Mujahidins!

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The trick for having your own country, is to have a real army, not a bunch of poser pansies.

That's why the "TRNC" is a non starter... the CNG could overrun it in about 2-3 hours... even with the junk Turkey has stationed on it.

Really! Then why don't they do it, after all it is their right to defend their territory form invaders. After all if Morocco invaded and held 1/3 of Spain no one would say the Spanish don't have to right to take it back by force of arm if they choose - so what is stopping the RoC?

The right to liberate Cyprus was never an issue, and our military problem isn't what's already there, but what can and may follow from Turkey. The trick is to deny any further resupplies.

GR have you not just contradicted yourself? you say:

the CNG could overrun it in about 2-3 hours... even with the junk Turkey has stationed on it

Yet also say:

military problem isn't what's already there, but what can and may follow from Turkey. The trick is to deny any further resupplies.

So you are saying that Turkey will be able to resupply the "TRNC", now over run, and the CNG can do nothing about it? This would be a major military operation which would be hard for any country to do, inc the USA, given the the RoC will at this point hold the cost, possibly have the S-300s deployed, and Turkey will have suffered a major military defeat - it will also be attacking a full EU member - in short if the CNG can kick Turkey out of the "TRNC" then Turkey is not coming back.

So this leads me to question, given your assurance of this task being easy, as to why has the RoC not tried it?

S300? EU? USA?

I'd rather skip discussing anything "military" with you...

and your answer to the CNG being able to over run the "TRNC" yet not able to stop Turkey resupply is?

[shahmaran]

The trick for having your own country, is to have a real army, not a bunch of poser pansies.

That's why the "TRNC" is a non starter... the CNG could overrun it in about 2-3 hours... even with the junk Turkey has stationed on it.

Really! Then why don't they do it, after all it is their right to defend their territory form invaders. After all if Morocco invaded and held 1/3 of Spain no one would say the Spanish don't have to right to take it back by force of arm if they choose - so what is stopping the RoC?

Because we have a stupid defeatist Government which has turned the entire Cyprus Problem from a matter of foreign conquest and occupation to a simple dispute between 2 communities.....

This can not last forever, because if this occupation continues, it is only a matter of time before a nationalistic fascist obtains the mandate to turn the Cyprus Problem on its ear, and when this happens, you better watch out! I suggest you leave the island for your own safety.

That is because only a few fools on this forum would think that it is a "foreign conquest", would take a lot more than a few Facebook groups to convince the world otherwise, because that is not the case...

The UN Resolutions clearly agree that Turkey occupies Cyprus, a Sovereign UN member!

Well that is a lot different to saying that the problem is nothing but the existence of the army, by totally disregarding the problem of the TC's.

That is no different than saying, "the Cyprus problem has been solved in 74".

Wouldn't you agree?

Yeh sure Shah! I agree! The Cyprus Problem is not a problem of occupation. Most TCs agree as well, which is why there are only 50,000 left on the island!

Happy?

They started leaving long before we were "occupied".

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and your answer to the CNG being able to over run the "TRNC" yet not able to stop Turkey resupply is?

This is getting boring! Here it is again for you in BABY ENGLISH…


What is already stationed (parked/available) in the occupied area is NOT a problem for the CNG.

The problem for the CNG is the seemingly endless supply of more and more equipment and troops that CAN arrive from Turkey, unless a plan/deal is devised to block any further Turkish resupplies.

ie: An ally like France convinced/bribed into stationing 2-3 ships in between Cyprus and Turkey to stop any further resupplies, forcing Turkey to fight with what’s already there.

After all, don’t you want a fair fight?

[shahmaran]

That won't be a problem today, and you would face a whole different level of power, compared to 74.

The same goes both ways… today you won’t be dealing with 180,000 civilians confused by the chaos of a coup in the major towns and running for their lives, but a proper military that is properly equipped and a combined reserve that totals 100,000 men!

BIG difference!


Like I said... the trick is to close off the island to deny any further Turkish supplies and your arse is OURS.

Alright GR.

You were "unprepared" they were "unprepared, you were defeated.

There is still nothing to indicate that you will have victory when you are both "prepared".

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That won't be a problem today, and you would face a whole different level of power, compared to 74.

The same goes both ways… today you won’t be dealing with 180,000 civilians confused by the chaos of a coup in the major towns and running for their lives, but a proper military that is properly equipped and a combined reserve that totals 100,000 men!

BIG difference!


Like I said... the trick is to close off the island to deny any further Turkish supplies and your arse is OURS.

Alright GR.

You were "unprepared" they were "unprepared, you were defeated.

There is still nothing to indicate that you will have victory when you are both "prepared".

Close off the fucking island... nothing else comes in and nothing gets out!

And I guarantee your arse on a plate in 2-3 hours.

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and your answer to the CNG being able to over run the "TRNC" yet not able to stop Turkey resupply is?

This is getting boring! Here it is again for you in BABY ENGLISH…


What is already stationed (parked/available) in the occupied area is NOT a problem for the CNG.

The problem for the CNG is the seemingly endless supply of more and more equipment and troops that CAN arrive from Turkey, unless a plan/deal is devised to block any further Turkish resupplies.

ie: An ally like France convinced/bribed into stationing 2-3 ships in between Cyprus and Turkey to stop any further resupplies, forcing Turkey to fight with what’s already there.

After all, don’t you want a fair fight?

Are you saying the CNG can over run the Turkish assets in the TRNC yet fail to repel a Turkish amphibious operation to retake the TRNC?

Given that it is generally considered that an attacking force needs a 3 to 1 numerical advantage, you say the CNG would need this against the TR force in the TRNC but not when the TR forces attempt to retake the TRNC?

If the CNG can kick the TR forces out of Cyprus then the TR forces are not coming back. End of story!

To do this the CNG would need a force of 120 K to take the TRNC and Turkey would need 360K to retake - I doubt that the CNG has this number nor Turkey the number to respond.

So should the CNG mobilise the 120k needed you can bet Turkey will mobilise to defend the TRNC and your original premise that the Turkish forces in the TRNC will be over run in 2-3 hours is false.

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Are you saying the CNG can over run the Turkish assets in the TRNC yet fail to repel a Turkish amphibious operation to retake the TRNC?

No, what I'm saying is that you're a fucking idiot who should take his computer back to the shop and tell them you're too stupid to own one!

[shahmaran]

That won't be a problem today, and you would face a whole different level of power, compared to 74.

The same goes both ways… today you won’t be dealing with 180,000 civilians confused by the chaos of a coup in the major towns and running for their lives, but a proper military that is properly equipped and a combined reserve that totals 100,000 men!

BIG difference!


Like I said... the trick is to close off the island to deny any further Turkish supplies and your arse is OURS.

Alright GR.

You were "unprepared" they were "unprepared, you were defeated.

There is still nothing to indicate that you will have victory when you are both "prepared".

Close off the fucking island... nothing else comes in and nothing gets out!

And I guarantee your arse on a plate in 2-3 hours.

You will have to fight both interior and heavily overpowering exterior forces, basically you are surrounded.

I am sure Turkey has thought about this possibility long before you were born.

I think you smoked one too many "cigarettes"

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You will have to fight both interior and heavily overpowering exterior forces.

You mean like the Darth Vader?