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Postby shahmaran » Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:34 pm

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DANGAMAN wrote:I am glad my country does not have the LIVE experience other counties do!!! and all we can do is train for when the worst happens.


Yeah, that explains the shit you are in now, and why you never had a country until the Ottomans arrived :lol:


Idiot :lol:

Sha , we have had a country for more than 10,000 , it is sad that so many invaders could not resist occupying a small island.
The Ottomans were just another !


That is bullshit, there is no record of you being here for 10,000 years, nor in Europe.

I love how the numbers go up every time you mention it.

Plus you don't "own" a country, by just being there.

The trick for having your own country, is to have a real army, not a bunch of poser pansies. Haven't the Ottomans thought you anything? :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:39 pm

shahmaran wrote:The trick for having your own country, is to have a real army, not a bunch of poser pansies.

That's why the "TRNC" is a non starter... the CNG could overrun it in about 2-3 hours... even with the junk Turkey has stationed on it.
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Postby shahmaran » Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:42 pm

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shahmaran wrote:The trick for having your own country, is to have a real army, not a bunch of poser pansies.

That's why the "TRNC" is a non starter... the CNG could overrun it in about 2-3 hours... even with the junk Turkey has stationed on it.


I know, after massacring a few unarmed villages you feel you can rule the world GR, but unfortunately it does not work like that, so lets not get ahead of ourselves. :lol:

Just stick to polishing your toys and hope that you will never have to use them.

Hate to see them pretty boys you have in your pictures face the Turkish army :lol:
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Postby AWE » Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:42 pm

Get Real! wrote:
shahmaran wrote:The trick for having your own country, is to have a real army, not a bunch of poser pansies.

That's why the "TRNC" is a non starter... the CNG could overrun it in about 2-3 hours... even with the junk Turkey has stationed on it.


Really! Then why don't they do it, after all it is their right to defend their territory form invaders. After all if Morocco invaded and held 1/3 of Spain no one would say the Spanish don't have to right to take it back by force of arm if they choose - so what is stopping the RoC?
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:01 pm

shahmaran wrote:Hate to see them pretty boys you have in your pictures face the Turkish army :lol:

I don’t think much of the Turkish army so I don’t share your fascination/excitement! :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:11 pm

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shahmaran wrote:The trick for having your own country, is to have a real army, not a bunch of poser pansies.

That's why the "TRNC" is a non starter... the CNG could overrun it in about 2-3 hours... even with the junk Turkey has stationed on it.

Really! Then why don't they do it, after all it is their right to defend their territory form invaders. After all if Morocco invaded and held 1/3 of Spain no one would say the Spanish don't have to right to take it back by force of arm if they choose - so what is stopping the RoC?

The right to liberate Cyprus was never an issue, and our military problem isn't what's already there, but what can and may follow from Turkey. The trick is to deny any further resupplies.
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Postby Paphitis » Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:15 pm

AWE wrote:
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shahmaran wrote:The trick for having your own country, is to have a real army, not a bunch of poser pansies.

That's why the "TRNC" is a non starter... the CNG could overrun it in about 2-3 hours... even with the junk Turkey has stationed on it.


Really! Then why don't they do it, after all it is their right to defend their territory form invaders. After all if Morocco invaded and held 1/3 of Spain no one would say the Spanish don't have to right to take it back by force of arm if they choose - so what is stopping the RoC?


Because we have a stupid defeatist Government which has turned the entire Cyprus Problem from a matter of foreign conquest and occupation to a simple dispute between 2 communities.....

This can not last forever, because if this occupation continues, it is only a matter of time before a nationalistic fascist obtains the mandate to turn the Cyprus Problem on its ear, and when this happens, you better watch out! I suggest you leave the island for your own safety.
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Postby shahmaran » Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:19 pm

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shahmaran wrote:Hate to see them pretty boys you have in your pictures face the Turkish army :lol:

I don’t think much of the Turkish army so I don’t share your fascination/excitement! :lol:


Well that will just show your obvious ignorance about world history, or maybe your grudge stops you from comprehending the fact that you would be sitting on the same table with the only country that has managed to fight off joined Imperial forces, on more than one occasion.

And I don't mean it Ghandi style, I mean proper ass whoop :lol:

Unless you have the balls and the determination to go Taliban on us, which I know you don't, you have no chance. :lol:
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Postby shahmaran » Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:20 pm

Paphitis wrote:
AWE wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
shahmaran wrote:The trick for having your own country, is to have a real army, not a bunch of poser pansies.

That's why the "TRNC" is a non starter... the CNG could overrun it in about 2-3 hours... even with the junk Turkey has stationed on it.


Really! Then why don't they do it, after all it is their right to defend their territory form invaders. After all if Morocco invaded and held 1/3 of Spain no one would say the Spanish don't have to right to take it back by force of arm if they choose - so what is stopping the RoC?


Because we have a stupid defeatist Government which has turned the entire Cyprus Problem from a matter of foreign conquest and occupation to a simple dispute between 2 communities.....

This can not last forever, because if this occupation continues, it is only a matter of time before a nationalistic fascist obtains the mandate to turn the Cyprus Problem on its ear, and when this happens, you better watch out! I suggest you leave the island for your own safety.


That is because only a few fools on this forum would think that it is a "foreign conquest", would take a lot more than a few Facebook groups to convince the world otherwise, because that is not the case...
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:21 pm

shahmaran wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Hate to see them pretty boys you have in your pictures face the Turkish army :lol:

I don’t think much of the Turkish army so I don’t share your fascination/excitement! :lol:


Well that will just show your obvious ignorance about world history, or maybe your grudge stops you from comprehending the fact that you would be sitting on the same table with the only country that has managed to fight off joined Imperial forces, on more than one occasion.

And I don't mean it Ghandi style, I mean proper ass whoop :lol:

Unless you have the balls and the determination to go Taliban on us, which I know you don't, you have no chance. :lol:

Like I said, I don't think much of them...

Immediately after the Turkish invasion the United States Senate sent a team of investigators to Cyprus to write up a report on the consequences of the invasion which included a section titled “COSTS OF THE INVASION TO TURKEY”. An interesting portion of that section follows…

"Nearly 10% of Turkey's military force is now stationed on Cyprus, and there have been heavy logistical and support requirements. Civilian "technicians" and others have also gone to the island. Moreover, there were considerable losses during the invasion. According to responsible military sources in the field, the performance of Turkey's armed forces during the first phase of the invasion was very poor. Although Turkey apparently employed a basic plan its general staff had drafted and perfected over a period of several years, military observers say there was poor operational planning, inadequate communications, and a near total failure of joint operations among Turkish air, sea, and ground forces.

As a result, through tactical errors Turkey lost an estimated 15 aircraft during the invasion. It sank one of its own destroyers. Casualties were considered light, but included some 300 men killed and another 500 wounded. Had there been any substantial Greek Cypriot forces and tanks in the northern part of the island, casualties undoubtedly would have been considerably higher. One military observer suggested, for example, that because the Turkish airborne assault came at too high an altitude, a better organized and equipped Greek Cypriot army could have easily eliminated an entire Turkish airborne regiment swinging helplessly in the air.”
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