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[miltiades]

Part of this Independent article which I find intolerably barbaric .

"It is a tragedy, a horror, a crime against humanity. The details of the murders – of the women beheaded, burned to death, stoned to death, stabbed, electrocuted, strangled and buried alive for the "honour" of their families – are as barbaric as they are shameful. Many women's groups in the Middle East and South-west Asia suspect the victims are at least four times the United Nations' latest world figure of around 5,000 deaths a year. Most of the victims are young, many are teenagers, slaughtered under a vile tradition that goes back hundreds of years but which now spans half the globe."

[miltiades]

You can massacre A person too Lola, so a few hundred unarmed dumped in mass graves is definitely a massacre.

My objection earlier on was to the ignorant rubbish Milti was suggesting that Turks are committing honor killings, when in fact it is mainly a Kurdish "tradition".

He can't even tell the difference.

Not according to these links :
http://honourkillings.gn.apc.org/
and this : http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/02/girl- ... urkey.html

No Shah , Milti is not talking rubbish " That's why these honor killings keep happening -- because they are broadly tolerated, even encouraged, by Islamic teachings and attitudes. Yet no authorities are calling Islamic leaders to account for this."
It is part and parcel of Islamic culture not only Kurdish .
Recently in the UK a young Turkish girl , not Kurdish , was killed by the father !!

Milt, are these supposed to be "sources"?

First of all, I said it is more of a Kurdish tradition, and it is, no one tolerates it, but the people who commit the crimes usually go ahead and turn themselves in anyway. What is one supposed to do?

They rather spend most of their lives in jail than accept the fact that their daughter loves sex.

So stop talking like an ignorant fool as if "Turks support honor killings" when you obviously have no clue and generalization happens to suit your shallowness.

Stick to supporting Israel, you are better at it.

Yes Shah , mainland Turks DO SUPPORT honour killings have another look at the results of the UNIVERSITY SURVEY. Don't just dismiss it because you also find it disgusting.

[Talisker]

Robert Fisk is reporting in The Independent this week on honour killings. Yesterday's article makes for uncomfortable reading,...

Fisk is the global-A1 in journalism...

I kinda like him! At least he's prepared to write articles questioning (and even criticising ) US, UK and Israeli policies in the Middle East and elsewhere.....

[DANGAMAN]

You can massacre A person too Lola, so a few hundred unarmed dumped in mass graves is definitely a massacre.

My objection earlier on was to the ignorant rubbish Milti was suggesting that Turks are committing honor killings, when in fact it is mainly a Kurdish "tradition".

He can't even tell the difference.

Not according to these links :
http://honourkillings.gn.apc.org/
and this : http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/02/girl- ... urkey.html

No Shah , Milti is not talking rubbish " That's why these honor killings keep happening -- because they are broadly tolerated, even encouraged, by Islamic teachings and attitudes. Yet no authorities are calling Islamic leaders to account for this."
It is part and parcel of Islamic culture not only Kurdish .
Recently in the UK a young Turkish girl , not Kurdish , was killed by the father !!

Milt, are these supposed to be "sources"?

First of all, I said it is more of a Kurdish tradition, and it is, no one tolerates it, but the people who commit the crimes usually go ahead and turn themselves in anyway. What is one supposed to do?

They rather spend most of their lives in jail than accept the fact that their daughter loves sex.

So stop talking like an ignorant fool as if "Turks support honor killings" when you obviously have no clue and generalization happens to suit your shallowness.

Stick to supporting Israel, you are better at it.

Has everyone forgot the film "Midnight express" With love from
Turkey


... and you say that we are barbaric ? Even today you still torture, you do not know the meaning of "human rights"

[Nikitas]

There are two Turkeys. The one that resides in Istanbul and the Aegean coast, whose public image is cultivated with adverts on CNN (complete with Byzantine monuments and Greek antiquities), and the other Turkey of the hinterland complete with all the goodies of fundamental Islam.

[shahmaran]

You can massacre A person too Lola, so a few hundred unarmed dumped in mass graves is definitely a massacre.

My objection earlier on was to the ignorant rubbish Milti was suggesting that Turks are committing honor killings, when in fact it is mainly a Kurdish "tradition".

He can't even tell the difference.

Not according to these links :
http://honourkillings.gn.apc.org/
and this : http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/02/girl- ... urkey.html

No Shah , Milti is not talking rubbish " That's why these honor killings keep happening -- because they are broadly tolerated, even encouraged, by Islamic teachings and attitudes. Yet no authorities are calling Islamic leaders to account for this."
It is part and parcel of Islamic culture not only Kurdish .
Recently in the UK a young Turkish girl , not Kurdish , was killed by the father !!

Milt, are these supposed to be "sources"?

First of all, I said it is more of a Kurdish tradition, and it is, no one tolerates it, but the people who commit the crimes usually go ahead and turn themselves in anyway. What is one supposed to do?

They rather spend most of their lives in jail than accept the fact that their daughter loves sex.

So stop talking like an ignorant fool as if "Turks support honor killings" when you obviously have no clue and generalization happens to suit your shallowness.

Stick to supporting Israel, you are better at it.

Has everyone forgot the film "Midnight express" With love from
Turkey


... and you say that we are barbaric ? Even today you still torture, you do not know the meaning of "human rights"

That film was made by an Armenian idiot, the guy who actually owns that story went on TV and talked about how fake and exaggerated the film was, go on Youtube and find it, and you are an idiot for taking cheap cinema as a reference.

Do you believe in Batman as well?

[Oracle]

Part of this Independent article which I find intolerably barbaric .

Which barbaric acts do you find tolerable?

[shahmaran]

There are two Turkeys. The one that resides in Istanbul and the Aegean coast, whose public image is cultivated with adverts on CNN (complete with Byzantine monuments and Greek antiquities), and the other Turkey of the hinterland complete with all the goodies of fundamental Islam.

The coasts are always greatly influenced by tourism and sea transportation and always have a higher degree of education, compared to the distant rural areas. The US is exactly the same, this is not just about Turkey, most countries work this way.

Also in Turkey, there are Kurds and there are "Turks", who also happen to have religious/nationalist monkeys amongst them.

The East is still actually still run by a "feudal" system where we have "Ağa's" who the rich land owners also own the biggest families and are in constant bloody battle. We call them "aşiret". Which is why they take such pride in their families and these eye-for-an-eye battles can last for generations. Honor killings are not just about the women, but you also have to kill someone from the family who has killed someone from your family, in order to save your "honor", and vv. Village people take greater pride on their image (just as it is in any closed society, even in Cyprus) and can also go as far as murdering family members to secure the image of an entire family, which is usually HUGE. It is just the way they think they need to survive over there. Throw some ethnic rivalry into it and you end up with this twisted social system that has been going on for centuries.

You guys have absolutely no insight in the social situation which would be so alien to you anyway and almost impossible to comprehend, yet you are very quick to judge, with very little knowledge and the funniest part is that you can easily make sweeping comments.

[shahmaran]

You can massacre A person too Lola, so a few hundred unarmed dumped in mass graves is definitely a massacre.

My objection earlier on was to the ignorant rubbish Milti was suggesting that Turks are committing honor killings, when in fact it is mainly a Kurdish "tradition".

He can't even tell the difference.

Not according to these links :
http://honourkillings.gn.apc.org/
and this : http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/02/girl- ... urkey.html

No Shah , Milti is not talking rubbish " That's why these honor killings keep happening -- because they are broadly tolerated, even encouraged, by Islamic teachings and attitudes. Yet no authorities are calling Islamic leaders to account for this."
It is part and parcel of Islamic culture not only Kurdish .
Recently in the UK a young Turkish girl , not Kurdish , was killed by the father !!

Milt, are these supposed to be "sources"?

First of all, I said it is more of a Kurdish tradition, and it is, no one tolerates it, but the people who commit the crimes usually go ahead and turn themselves in anyway. What is one supposed to do?

They rather spend most of their lives in jail than accept the fact that their daughter loves sex.

So stop talking like an ignorant fool as if "Turks support honor killings" when you obviously have no clue and generalization happens to suit your shallowness.

Stick to supporting Israel, you are better at it.

Yes Shah , mainland Turks DO SUPPORT honour killings have another look at the results of the UNIVERSITY SURVEY. Don't just dismiss it because you also find it disgusting.

Its not about the disgust, it is about your lack of knowledge and that cheesy survey you keep waving around.

[DANGAMAN]

You can massacre A person too Lola, so a few hundred unarmed dumped in mass graves is definitely a massacre.

My objection earlier on was to the ignorant rubbish Milti was suggesting that Turks are committing honor killings, when in fact it is mainly a Kurdish "tradition".

He can't even tell the difference.

Not according to these links :
http://honourkillings.gn.apc.org/
and this : http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/02/girl- ... urkey.html

No Shah , Milti is not talking rubbish " That's why these honor killings keep happening -- because they are broadly tolerated, even encouraged, by Islamic teachings and attitudes. Yet no authorities are calling Islamic leaders to account for this."
It is part and parcel of Islamic culture not only Kurdish .
Recently in the UK a young Turkish girl , not Kurdish , was killed by the father !!

Milt, are these supposed to be "sources"?

First of all, I said it is more of a Kurdish tradition, and it is, no one tolerates it, but the people who commit the crimes usually go ahead and turn themselves in anyway. What is one supposed to do?

They rather spend most of their lives in jail than accept the fact that their daughter loves sex.

So stop talking like an ignorant fool as if "Turks support honor killings" when you obviously have no clue and generalization happens to suit your shallowness.

Stick to supporting Israel, you are better at it.

Has everyone forgot the film "Midnight express" With love from
Turkey


... and you say that we are barbaric ? Even today you still torture, you do not know the meaning of "human rights"

That film was made by an Armenian idiot, the guy who actually owns that story went on TV and talked about how fake and exaggerated the film was, go on Youtube and find it, and you are an idiot for taking cheap cinema as a reference.

Do you believe in Batman as well?

Do you bloody expect us to believe that Turkish prisons comply with human rights?

Dont take it out on your self, its not your fault your friends and relatives get banged whilst in prison.