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[lola-tulip]

" - I'm sick and tired at the continued vitriolic attacks - "

Hallo Original Poster

The West is big. It can take care of itself. Are you equally sick and tired of those who attack Cyprus? Verbally and Physically?

[Get Real!]

" - I'm sick and tired at the continued vitriolic attacks - "

Hallo Original Poster

The West is big. It can take care of itself. Are you equally sick and tired of those who attack Cyprus? Verbally and Physically?

Just keep in mind that you’re dealing with a grandpa who eats plenty of souvla and then nods off only to wake up three hours later with an overflowing colostomy bag…

…and that’s about the time he starts posting!

[miltiades]

The attacks against America and the West by this moron are as a result of his intense hatred against the Western world . The impression that one can easily get from the posts of this fool is that all Cypriots hate America and are supportive of the nations that breed endemic anti American terrorism.
Lola -tulip , your contribution is way off the mark , and may I also say rather silly . My aversion at the continued anti West posts by this fool has nothing to do with the size or power of the West and nothing whatsoever to do
with either verbal or otherwise attacks on Cyprus.

[Paphitis]

The attacks against America and the West by this moron are as a result of his intense hatred against the Western world . The impression that one can easily get from the posts of this fool is that all Cypriots hate America and are supportive of the nations that breed endemic anti American terrorism.
Lola -tulip , your contribution is way off the mark , and may I also say rather silly . My aversion at the continued anti West posts by this fool has nothing to do with the size or power of the West and nothing whatsoever to do
with either verbal or otherwise attacks on Cyprus.

The United States does not represent ALL Western Nations. There are literally dozens of nations that base themselves on sound western values, Cyprus being just one of those nations, and there is nothing wrong with being a little critical of US and/or Israeli policies, because it is evident that they do indeed have some policies which should and do attract some criticism even from within.

There is no perfect nation in this world, and all have from time to time fallen foul of International Law or what is just and humane. Even Cyprus, one of the smallest nations in the world, has some blemishes which are literally on par with that of Israel, and all you need to do is look or study the many mass graves that are now being uncovered. In war, your opponent or enemy is dehumanised, which just makes it easy to kill without feeling as much guilt. All countries have done this at times of conflict, including Cyprus, and this my friend is the first step to committing War Crimes. Therefore, any individuals that offer their constructive criticism to any nation is only propagating the fact that the other side is in fact human and that there is suffering of innocents and this drives the message home to policy makers who may well be well intenttioned, but more importantly to military Commanders and their men, who as humans can be overcome with emotions which are unbecomming! This has happenned in every conflict, and just a little step further than that we have despicable War Crimes!

It all comes down to human nature, and when we understand this, you can begin to unravel how cruel and vindictive humans can become, especially when facing fears about groups of people (i.e Muslims, Jews etc) we don't have too much knowledge off as there only crime is that they are only a little different to what we are accustomed to. Many great nations like Cyprus have passed through dark times, but some countries like Turkey and Germany just a little more than most. Great countries such as Canada, UK, US, NZ, and even Australia also have their blemishes. So no country or people are immune no matter how you slice it!

On this forum, many of us have the freedom of speech to criticise anyone. We as Cypriots even have the democratic right to criticise the RoC's stupid political policies which will lead to Turkification and destruction. I as an Aussie have the democratic right to criticise my Government and no one can take that away from me. And we all have the democratic right to be critical of the US, Israel or anyone else for that matter. And it just so happens that for me personally, I have 10 times more reason to be critical of Turkey than anyone else! But we are not all the same. And I judge based on what they have done and continue to do, and there is a very fine line now between just being critical of Turkey, its policies and military and something entirely different. In this world there are all kinds of persons. About 5% are Sociopaths and the Military seeks such persons for leadership roles, so what does this tell you? This does not just apply to the US or Israel! It applies to everyone.

[alex_ruffneck]

I with GR all the way, in my opinion his hatred of USA's (and the uk's - let's just say "the west's") ludicrous foreign policies, history of war crimes, corruption and outrageous hypocrisy is completely justified.

[Paphitis]

Just the other day, a Jewish Rabbi made the unreal statement that all Palestinians should die or be exterminated. This is a clear example of how this particular person has dehumanised all Palestinians, and thankfully most Israelis do not seem to agree!

As far as US War Crimes are concerned, there are probably some instances, but personally I believe that their involvement in Afghanistan is quite justified in that the coalition is doing many good things protecting many Afghanis from Taliban control. For instance, in a village that the coalition did not control, the Taliban had stoned and beheaded a young couple which allegedly had an out of marriage affair.

If the coalition is able to do away with the Taliban without any civilian casualties and leave as soon as practicable by handing control back to the Afghan people, then this can be a very good thing for all concerned and more importantly, it will be a good thing for the poor Afghan people. The issue is, will the coalition be successful? It will as long as the "West" is able and willing to train Afghan Security Forces and prop up their security resources with equipment, money and training for the next 10 or years (hopefully much less).

[miltiades]

GR's intoxication with anti American posts is not a matter of critic but a matter of pure hatred against America. We can all be critical of any nation , I have on numerous occasions criticized the RoC concerning many issues .
What this man does is to unceasingly rummage the net looking for any demeaning and slanderous remarks / reports on the USA , Britain , Israel and other Western nation. I have yet to see a post of his that is constractive to the Cyprob.
He advocates war as the ONLY option in solving the Cyprus issue an act that would totaly destroy Cyprus and render it a third world nation for years to come , not forgetting the 10s of thousands that could perish .
He is a bloody menace as far as I'm concerned , one that would not hesitate to cause a bloody revolution in order to satisfy his warped fantasies.
There are many like him in Cyprus of the same pedigree that caused Cyprus's most enormous catastrophe in history
anxious to prove that they can still cause mayhem and destruction.
I support the West staunchly because I beleive that Cyprus's interests are best served by close attachment to the West , it does not translate acceptance of all that the West does but it does mean that protecting our interests and promoting them must take priority above all else. Throughout our short political history as an independent nation we succumbed to a myriad of political blunders not least our reluctance to accept the Zurich agreements and give them a chance to function , from day one we announced that the Zurich agreements were unworkable. We forged allegiances with weak ineffective nations ignoring the powers that could be instrumental in ensuring the survival of our nation in its embryonic state.
LONG LIVE AMERICA THE GREATEST NATION ON EARTH ( AFTER CYPRUS )

[lola-tulip]

" - I'm sick and tired at the continued vitriolic attacks - "

Hallo Original Poster

The West is big. It can take care of itself. Are you equally sick and tired of those who attack Cyprus? Verbally and Physically?

Just keep in mind that you’re dealing with a grandpa who eats plenty of souvla and then nods off only to wake up three hours later with an overflowing colostomy bag…

…and that’s about the time he starts posting!

He looks sweet. Is he known for navel-gazing before commenting here?

[miltiades]

" - I'm sick and tired at the continued vitriolic attacks - "

Hallo Original Poster

The West is big. It can take care of itself. Are you equally sick and tired of those who attack Cyprus? Verbally and Physically?

Just keep in mind that you’re dealing with a grandpa who eats plenty of souvla and then nods off only to wake up three hours later with an overflowing colostomy bag…

…and that’s about the time he starts posting!

He looks sweet. Is he known for navel-gazing before commenting here?

No my dear , I'm known for my straight forward no nonsense approach and utter intolerance towards stupidity . Getting to know me its easy , just dont be bloody stupid!!

[Lit]

" - I'm sick and tired at the continued vitriolic attacks - "

Hallo Original Poster

The West is big. It can take care of itself. Are you equally sick and tired of those who attack Cyprus? Verbally and Physically?

A bit of a contradiction here. Cyprus IS part of the western world, always has been, and yes, i am tired of countries like Turkey who attack Cyprus physically and verbally.