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[Viewpoint]

Let me try and make it even more simple, your objection to labels and titles does not change reality, without the TCs/TRNC/Turkey you cannot resolve the current impass and therefore this entity you refuse to see with remain on place forever.

Again you can say whatever you want about the TRNC its water off a ducks back to most TCs, it will always be preferred to what GCs have to offer, we can have that today south Cyprus is there for the taking yet we still choose to remain in the TRNC and will not let go to become a minority in a GC state, two equal partners under a BBF or nothing, the TRNC can stay as it is forever or unite with Turkey than capitulate to GC demands.

[Kikapu]

Let me try and make it even more simple, your objection to labels and titles does not change reality, without the TCs/TRNC/Turkey you cannot resolve the current impass and therefore this entity you refuse to see with remain on place forever.

Again you can say whatever you want about the TRNC its water off a ducks back to most TCs, it will always be preferred to what GCs have to offer, we can have that today south Cyprus is there for the taking yet we still choose to remain in the TRNC and will not let go to become a minority in a GC state, two equal partners under a BBF or nothing, the TRNC can stay as it is forever or unite with Turkey than capitulate to GC demands.

UN resolutions on BBF is based on Federation on political equality, which is what all True Federation are based on and not as you would like to believe it to being "equal partners". You need to understand what it's expected by the UN and the EU and not the Fairy Tale Dreams you like to spout here.!

[Viewpoint]

Prove it Kikapu or stop telling porkies.

[shahmaran]

Mili name it what you will, recognized or not it exsists with it functioning organs be it leadership government police schools roads etc etc just like any other country, the fact that only one legimate country does not make it go away, your continual burying your head in the sand mindset will not change reality one iota. In fact you would be much better adjusted if you accepted that without this "unrecognized" country you cannot unite this island...ho sorry forgot it does exsist....you dont know how crazy you GCs sound.

Dream on, David Copperfied can saw a person in half, it looks like they are in half, but actually they are not.

Same for the 'trnc' it may look like a country to you, because thats been the plan all long, to try and get it to look like a REAL country, but actually its just a fake, a make believe, a pretend and F pseudo state. Do you understand the difference, you idiot.

Physically you are there, internationally you are not. This means you're phucked mate.

Have a nice day

Big deal.

The USA did not recognize China for 30 years, now look at it.

If the fate of the people lied up on the "recognition" by the so called powers, who define people as state or not, according to their own benefit, we would all be fucked.

The point is, we are not recognized now, and maybe not in another 50 years, but eventually we will have to be, and until than, you cannot do anything but either bargain with us or just drink a glass water over the North part.

It is all about who calls the shots, and I do not see the cheesy RoC calling anything ever, not in the near foreseeable future anyway

[Kikapu]

Prove it Kikapu or stop telling porkies.

"BBF"........equals............F for Federation with "political equality".

Anything else you spout is non of the above, but your beloved R.I.P. Annan Plan.!

Get over it already, will ya'.!

[lola-tulip]

Why bother argue this, with a person who actually holds a TRNC passport?

What "Nationality" does this "TRNC passport" assign to you?

And how do you know what passports Asil holds?

Since he had to surrender his passports we know he had a British one and a Turkish one. Are you saying he also has a "TRNC" one which he has not surrendered? Why is that?

Just get to the point Lola.

Do you see a "point" emerging? I see in my absence you have answered yourself.

I am waiting for Lola to come up something more original than "TRNC does not exist"

Who brought up existentialism? Not I.

Let us backtrack to what I am asking.

"What "Nationality" does this "TRNC passport" assign to you?"

Since you have one, would you please look at it and tell me?

[shahmaran]

Lola, quit wasting time with your leading questions.

I assure you, whatever you want to say, has probably been discussed in volumes on this forum.

What do you suspect a TRNC passport would say about the nationality of the holder?

[Get Real!]

What do you suspect a TRNC passport would say about the nationality of the holder?

Unrecognized?

Undetermined?

Carpetbagger?

Narnian?

Gypsy?

I give up!

[shahmaran]

I give up!

I win!

[lola-tulip]

What do you suspect a TRNC passport would say about the nationality of the holder?

I asked you because I can not imagine what new nationality they have found.

Will you provide an answer to my query?