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[miltiades]

Depends where you go, is what I said, which is how it works.

Why bother argue this, with a person who actually holds a TRNC passport? I am assuming you are GC?

You cannot possibly "establish" that something which is physically out there and functioning "does not exist", by simply arguing with me on a forum, it is ridiculous

And how do you know what passports Asil holds?

He is under house arrest, with a dog tag anyways, he needs a lot more than a passport.

Sha , what exists is the northern part of Cyprus with some 70,000 or so Turkish Cypriots and more than 150,000 settlers under the direct control of the Turkish army. No one is denying the existence of the citizens living in the occupied parts of Cyprus WHAT IS DENIED IS THE PROMOTION OF THE DIVISION OF THE ISLAND OF CYPRUS.
The fact that not one single nation has recognized the "trnc" means that it does not exist as a bona fide nation with all the trappings that a recognized nation has at its disposal , passports , currency etc etc.

Now hold on there Milti.

I am waiting for Lola to come up something more original than "TRNC does not exist"

So that I can say "yes it does, I live there"

Shah , what exists as I stated above is the northern part of Cyprus where you live , administered exclusively by the T/A. The "trnc" has none of the prerequisite criteria required by the International community in order that a nation can be either a member of the UN or indeed any other internationally recognized affiliation of nations.I t is a mandatory requirement that can not be dismissed if a nation is to call it self a legal entity. Counterfeit money also exists but it is NOT legal tender !
We know that the northern part of Cyprus exists , it has existed for thousands of years , we just adhere to ALL international forums , the UN , the EU etc etc THAT DO NOT RECOGNIZE THE SELF PROCLAIMED "TRNC" WHICH IS NOTHING MORE THAT A TURKISH ADMINISTERED PART OF CYPRUS UNDER MIILITARY OCCUPATION.

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Mili name it what you will, recognized or not it exsists with it functioning organs be it leadership government police schools roads etc etc just like any other country, the fact that only one legimate country does not make it go away, your continual burying your head in the sand mindset will not change reality one iota. In fact you would be much better adjusted if you accepted that without this "unrecognized" country you cannot unite this island...ho sorry forgot it does exsist....you dont know how crazy you GCs sound.

[B25]

Mili name it what you will, recognized or not it exsists with it functioning organs be it leadership government police schools roads etc etc just like any other country, the fact that only one legimate country does not make it go away, your continual burying your head in the sand mindset will not change reality one iota. In fact you would be much better adjusted if you accepted that without this "unrecognized" country you cannot unite this island...ho sorry forgot it does exsist....you dont know how crazy you GCs sound.

Dream on, David Copperfied can saw a person in half, it looks like they are in half, but actually they are not.

Same for the 'trnc' it may look like a country to you, because thats been the plan all long, to try and get it to look like a REAL country, but actually its just a fake, a make believe, a pretend and F pseudo state. Do you understand the difference, you idiot.

Physically you are there, internationally you are not. This means you're phucked mate.

Have a nice day

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Mili name it what you will, recognized or not it exsists with it functioning organs be it leadership government police schools roads etc etc just like any other country, the fact that only one legimate country does not make it go away, your continual burying your head in the sand mindset will not change reality one iota. In fact you would be much better adjusted if you accepted that without this "unrecognized" country you cannot unite this island...ho sorry forgot it does exsist....you dont know how crazy you GCs sound.

Dream on, David Copperfied can saw a person in half, it looks like they are in half, but actually they are not.

Same for the 'trnc' it may look like a country to you, because thats been the plan all long, to try and get it to look like a REAL country, but actually its just a fake, a make believe, a pretend and F pseudo state. Do you understand the difference, you idiot.

Physically you are there, internationally you are not. This means you're phucked mate.

Have a nice day

We can all clearly see you are having problems dealing with reality, even an unrecognized country which is physically in place is much preferred to what you are offering and it looks like the TRNC will be around forever.

[miltiades]

Mili name it what you will, recognized or not it exsists with it functioning organs be it leadership government police schools roads etc etc just like any other country, the fact that only one legimate country does not make it go away, your continual burying your head in the sand mindset will not change reality one iota. In fact you would be much better adjusted if you accepted that without this "unrecognized" country you cannot unite this island...ho sorry forgot it does exsist....you dont know how crazy you GCs sound.

VP , nobody is denying the existence of the northern part of Cyprus but just as the example I gave earlier on the existence of counterfeit but illegal currency notes , the "trnc" is not only not recognized by the G/Cs but by the entire world. It is a corrupt to the bone pseudo state that allows its banks to fleece the citizens without ant remorse.
Turkey is the " trnc" , the part of Cyprus that she occupies .
Do remember that Cyprus has a history stretching back many thousands of years .

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Mili name it what you will, recognized or not it exsists with it functioning organs be it leadership government police schools roads etc etc just like any other country, the fact that only one legimate country does not make it go away, your continual burying your head in the sand mindset will not change reality one iota. In fact you would be much better adjusted if you accepted that without this "unrecognized" country you cannot unite this island...ho sorry forgot it does exsist....you dont know how crazy you GCs sound.

VP , nobody is denying the existence of the northern part of Cyprus but just as the example I gave earlier on the existence of counterfeit but illegal currency notes , the "trnc" is not only not recognized by the G/Cs but by the entire world. It is a corrupt to the bone pseudo state that allows its banks to fleece the citizens without ant remorse.
Turkey is the " trnc" , the part of Cyprus that she occupies .
Do remember that Cyprus has a history stretching back many thousands of years .

Turkey recognizes the TRNC and there are many other nations if given the wink would recognize it tomorrow you have realize the risk you perpetuate with your narrow vision and lack of understanding. The face of Cyprus was chnaged forever in 1974 and will never be the same again, we are willing to carry on as the TRNC forever even accepting to become part of Turkey rather than capitulate to GC demands, how much clearer can I be?Put something realistic on the table that is a partnership and you may get our attention otherwise this "non entity" you refuse to see will remain in place forever.

[miltiades]

Mili name it what you will, recognized or not it exsists with it functioning organs be it leadership government police schools roads etc etc just like any other country, the fact that only one legimate country does not make it go away, your continual burying your head in the sand mindset will not change reality one iota. In fact you would be much better adjusted if you accepted that without this "unrecognized" country you cannot unite this island...ho sorry forgot it does exsist....you dont know how crazy you GCs sound.

VP , nobody is denying the existence of the northern part of Cyprus but just as the example I gave earlier on the existence of counterfeit but illegal currency notes , the "trnc" is not only not recognized by the G/Cs but by the entire world. It is a corrupt to the bone pseudo state that allows its banks to fleece the citizens without ant remorse.
Turkey is the " trnc" , the part of Cyprus that she occupies .
Do remember that Cyprus has a history stretching back many thousands of years .

Turkey recognizes the TRNC and there are many other nations if given the wink would recognize it tomorrow you have realize the risk you perpetuate with your narrow vision and lack of understanding. The face of Cyprus was chnaged forever in 1974 and will never be the same again, we are willing to carry on as the TRNC forever even accepting to become part of Turkey rather than capitulate to GC demands, how much clearer can I be?Put something realistic on the table that is a partnership and you may get our attention otherwise this "non entity" you refuse to see will remain in place forever.

Turkey created the "trnc" , recognition by her is paramount to a student marking his own exam papers , it does not alter the fact that the ENTIRE international community does not recognize the legality of this creation.
I'm all for partnership but amongst the Cypriot people not the imported Anatolians that have absolutely no common ground with the Cypriot indigenous people.

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Mili name it what you will, recognized or not it exsists with it functioning organs be it leadership government police schools roads etc etc just like any other country, the fact that only one legimate country does not make it go away, your continual burying your head in the sand mindset will not change reality one iota. In fact you would be much better adjusted if you accepted that without this "unrecognized" country you cannot unite this island...ho sorry forgot it does exsist....you dont know how crazy you GCs sound.

VP , nobody is denying the existence of the northern part of Cyprus but just as the example I gave earlier on the existence of counterfeit but illegal currency notes , the "trnc" is not only not recognized by the G/Cs but by the entire world. It is a corrupt to the bone pseudo state that allows its banks to fleece the citizens without ant remorse.
Turkey is the " trnc" , the part of Cyprus that she occupies .
Do remember that Cyprus has a history stretching back many thousands of years .

Turkey recognizes the TRNC and there are many other nations if given the wink would recognize it tomorrow you have realize the risk you perpetuate with your narrow vision and lack of understanding. The face of Cyprus was chnaged forever in 1974 and will never be the same again, we are willing to carry on as the TRNC forever even accepting to become part of Turkey rather than capitulate to GC demands, how much clearer can I be?Put something realistic on the table that is a partnership and you may get our attention otherwise this "non entity" you refuse to see will remain in place forever.

Turkey created the "trnc" , recognition by her is paramount to a student marking his own exam papers , it does not alter the fact that the ENTIRE international community does not recognize the legality of this creation.
I'm all for partnership but amongst the Cypriot people not the imported Anatolians that have absolutely no common ground with the Cypriot indigenous people.

Lets look at it from this angle Mili as you continue to have problems accepting reality, do you have to get this "exam paper" to agree to a solution?

If your answer is yes then you now understand why without the TRNC which your way of thinking does not exsist you cannot go anywhere.

If no then you are stuck as you have no one to agree a solution with and without the TRNC you can go nowhere.

Now do you understand?

[Kikapu]

Mili name it what you will, recognized or not it exsists with it functioning organs be it leadership government police schools roads etc etc just like any other country, the fact that only one legimate country does not make it go away, your continual burying your head in the sand mindset will not change reality one iota. In fact you would be much better adjusted if you accepted that without this "unrecognized" country you cannot unite this island...ho sorry forgot it does exsist....you dont know how crazy you GCs sound.

VP , nobody is denying the existence of the northern part of Cyprus but just as the example I gave earlier on the existence of counterfeit but illegal currency notes , the "trnc" is not only not recognized by the G/Cs but by the entire world. It is a corrupt to the bone pseudo state that allows its banks to fleece the citizens without ant remorse.
Turkey is the " trnc" , the part of Cyprus that she occupies .
Do remember that Cyprus has a history stretching back many thousands of years .

Turkey recognizes the TRNC and there are many other nations if given the wink would recognize it tomorrow you have realize the risk you perpetuate with your narrow vision and lack of understanding. The face of Cyprus was chnaged forever in 1974 and will never be the same again, we are willing to carry on as the TRNC forever even accepting to become part of Turkey rather than capitulate to GC demands, how much clearer can I be?Put something realistic on the table that is a partnership and you may get our attention otherwise this "non entity" you refuse to see will remain in place forever.

Turkey created the "trnc" , recognition by her is paramount to a student marking his own exam papers , it does not alter the fact that the ENTIRE international community does not recognize the legality of this creation.
I'm all for partnership but amongst the Cypriot people not the imported Anatolians that have absolutely no common ground with the Cypriot indigenous people.

Lets look at it from this angle Mili as you continue to have problems accepting reality, do you have to get this "exam paper" to agree to a solution?

If your answer is yes then you now understand why without the TRNC which your way of thinking does not exsist you cannot go anywhere.

If no then you are stuck as you have no one to agree a solution with and without the TRNC you can go nowhere.

Now do you understand?

It is not the "trnc" the RoC is negotiating with for a unified Cyprus with the TCs, but rather negotiating with Turkey via the TCs. This is the reality. Turkey wants to be in the EU. RoC is already in the EU. You figure out the rest.!

[miltiades]

Mili name it what you will, recognized or not it exsists with it functioning organs be it leadership government police schools roads etc etc just like any other country, the fact that only one legimate country does not make it go away, your continual burying your head in the sand mindset will not change reality one iota. In fact you would be much better adjusted if you accepted that without this "unrecognized" country you cannot unite this island...ho sorry forgot it does exsist....you dont know how crazy you GCs sound.

VP , nobody is denying the existence of the northern part of Cyprus but just as the example I gave earlier on the existence of counterfeit but illegal currency notes , the "trnc" is not only not recognized by the G/Cs but by the entire world. It is a corrupt to the bone pseudo state that allows its banks to fleece the citizens without ant remorse.
Turkey is the " trnc" , the part of Cyprus that she occupies .
Do remember that Cyprus has a history stretching back many thousands of years .

Turkey recognizes the TRNC and there are many other nations if given the wink would recognize it tomorrow you have realize the risk you perpetuate with your narrow vision and lack of understanding. The face of Cyprus was chnaged forever in 1974 and will never be the same again, we are willing to carry on as the TRNC forever even accepting to become part of Turkey rather than capitulate to GC demands, how much clearer can I be?Put something realistic on the table that is a partnership and you may get our attention otherwise this "non entity" you refuse to see will remain in place forever.

Turkey created the "trnc" , recognition by her is paramount to a student marking his own exam papers , it does not alter the fact that the ENTIRE international community does not recognize the legality of this creation.
I'm all for partnership but amongst the Cypriot people not the imported Anatolians that have absolutely no common ground with the Cypriot indigenous people.

Lets look at it from this angle Mili as you continue to have problems accepting reality, do you have to get this "exam paper" to agree to a solution?

If your answer is yes then you now understand why without the TRNC which your way of thinking does not exsist you cannot go anywhere.

If no then you are stuck as you have no one to agree a solution with and without the TRNC you can go nowhere.

Now do you understand?

It is not the "trnc" the RoC is negotiating with for a unified Cyprus with the TCs, but rather negotiating with Turkey via the TCs. This is the reality. Turkey wants to be in the EU. RoC is already in the EU. You figure out the rest.!

Absolutely ! Turkey is pulling ALL the strings , the day might come when she will no longer wish to continue pulling the strings , what then !!