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[Get Real!]

So going back to the question Insan...

Are you denying that Turkey had ordered the TMT to ensure that “Turkish Cypriots” break away from Greek Cypriots, in government, employment, and every other mixed activity, and seek “refuge” in specially setup TC enclaves?

[Viewpoint]

So going back to the question Insan...

Are you denying that Turkey had ordered the TMT to ensure that “Turkish Cypriots” break away from Greek Cypriots, in government, employment, and every other mixed activity, and seek “refuge” in specially setup TC enclaves?

Fear for ones life is a great incentive to setup TC enclaves, ever heard of safety in numbers?

[Get Real!]

So going back to the question Insan...

Are you denying that Turkey had ordered the TMT to ensure that “Turkish Cypriots” break away from Greek Cypriots, in government, employment, and every other mixed activity, and seek “refuge” in specially setup TC enclaves?

Fear for ones life is a great incentive to setup TC enclaves, ever heard of safety in numbers?

The issue here is NOT the enclaves which came LAST, but…

"The Turkish Cypriot leaders have adhered to a rigid stand against any measures which might involve having members of the two communities live and work together”

So who is going to explain what might have brought about such behavior?

[insan]

So going back to the question Insan...

Are you denying that Turkey had ordered the TMT to ensure that “Turkish Cypriots” break away from Greek Cypriots, in government, employment, and every other mixed activity, and seek “refuge” in specially setup TC enclaves?

Sorry GR but it seems the copy of Galo Plaza report u claimed to have must be a faked one!

On the question of Enosis, Mr. Plaza notes that «it is the most divisive and potentially the most explosive aspect of the Cyprus problem». Any attempt to impose Enosis against the
will of Turkish Cypriots would possibly result in a new outbreak of violence. «I have been assured by the Turkish-Cypriot leadership and by the successive governments of
Turkey that any attempt to bring it about against their will would provoke active and vigorous resistance», he writes (para 137). Moreover it would deteriorate relations between Greece and Turkey and jeopardise the peace as the eastern Mediterranean region, he estimates.

In your faked version of GP report para 137 tells something else...


... and according to the GC source...

THE TURKISH CYPRIOT SIDE'S POSITIONS
The Turkish Cypriot side presented its positions in a memorandum submitted on 22 February 1965 by the vice-president of the Republic Dr. Fazil Kuchuk.
Invoking concerns over security of life and property of a people who were not «a mere minority but a distinct community in their own right», the Turkish Cypriot side insisted on the geographical separation of the two communities under a federal system of
government. (para 97)
Their proposal envisaged a compulsory exchange of population under UN supervision in order to bring about a state of affairs in which each community would occupy a separate part of the island. According to the Turkish Cypriots, the physical separation would alleviate their feelings of insecurity.

Kuchuk officially submitted the proposal of TC side in early 1965 which clearly reveals what's the main struggle point of TC side that lasted from early 1965 and afterwards till 1968 to the begining of the new round of negotiations... Under then the circumstances that GC administration and it's oppressive units exerting to impose minority status upon TC community, TC leadership did the right thing by officially submiting their solution proposal to the UN and on the other hand making preparations for it... Their only fault is that not being intelligent enough to elucidate the rightful cause of TC community to the whole world...

As for your question; under such circumstances, every TC would wish to move a safe part of Cyprus free form the oppression of GC administration and it's oppressive units... There's no need for TMT to take orders from Turkey and force TCs to the enclaves...

[bill cobbett]

Consider where some of the Turkish Exclaves were...

Kophinou, in the gap in the mountains in the Nic to Lim Road

St Hilarion, on the high ground above the Nic to Kyrenia Road

Kokkina, with its harbour, on the coast opposite Turkey.

Then think about Fear, and yes of course VP is right, fear is a very important element, but it's also one that can be stoked up and manipulated.

The other consideration is what proportion of population moved? It certainly wasn't 100%, but what was the proportion?

[Get Real!]

Insan, you’ve started the little girlie posts and you know very well what happens when someone tries to fuck me around don’t you?

Are you sure you want to go in this direction? It’s your last chance…

[yialousa1971]

And why is this important enough to warrant a dedicated thread?

[insan]

Insan, you’ve started the little girlie posts and you know very well what happens when someone tries to fuck me around don’t you?

Are you sure you want to go in this direction? It’s your last chance…

I'm sure GR! Here we go! First start with posting the original, 66 pages long real Plaza report instead of excerpts from a fake Plaza report!

... then come with some sensible counter arguements to what I've argued in my previous post...

... and stop uttering senseless threats around that you are being tried to fuck around and i would see what would happen if i went in that direction and blah blah and Get Real Fart etc...

Ps: I remember once u uttered the same threat to me and when i told you "here we go, come on, let's start!" you got lost and never returned to that thread again...

[Get Real!]

Insan, you’ve started the little girlie posts and you know very well what happens when someone tries to fuck me around don’t you?

Are you sure you want to go in this direction? It’s your last chance…

I'm sure GR! Here we go! First start with posting the original, 66 pages long real Plaza report instead of excerpts from a fake Plaza report!

... then come with some sensible counter arguements to what I've argued in my previous post...

... and stop uttering senseless threats around that you are being tried to fuck around and i would see what would happen if i went in that direction and blah blah and Get Real Fart etc...

Ps: I remember once u uttered the same threat to me and when i told you "here we go, come on, let's start!" you got lost and never returned to that thread again...

You incompetent piece of Turkish cowshit!

If you cannot even tell the difference between the Galo Plaza report and an UNFICYP report numbered S/6426, then how can you ever make any sense out of anything?

The fact that their sections/paragraphs don’t match as you noticed, should’ve been enough for any 12 year old to suspect that they are looking at two different bloody reports!

So as you can now see, when you’re born out of the arse of a Turkish prostitute as you have, can it be any wonder that you’re lacking basic common sense? Can a Turkish child of diarrhea ever reason?

Now get out of my sight you little Turkish fleabag!

[Murataga]

Insan, you’ve started the little girlie posts and you know very well what happens when someone tries to fuck me around don’t you?

Are you sure you want to go in this direction? It’s your last chance…

I'm sure GR! Here we go! First start with posting the original, 66 pages long real Plaza report instead of excerpts from a fake Plaza report!

... then come with some sensible counter arguements to what I've argued in my previous post...

... and stop uttering senseless threats around that you are being tried to fuck around and i would see what would happen if i went in that direction and blah blah and Get Real Fart etc...

Ps: I remember once u uttered the same threat to me and when i told you "here we go, come on, let's start!" you got lost and never returned to that thread again...

You incompetent piece of Turkish cowshit!

If you cannot even tell the difference between the Galo Plaza report and an UNFICYP report numbered S/6426, then how can you ever make any sense out of anything?

The fact that their sections/paragraphs don’t match as you noticed, should’ve been enough for any 12 year old to suspect that they are looking at two different bloody reports!

So as you can now see, when you’re born out of the arse of a Turkish prostitute as you have, can it be any wonder that you’re lacking basic common sense? Can a Turkish child of diarrhea ever reason?

Now get out of my sight you little Turkish fleabag!

Calm down man. Don`t you think you have gone too far with this last one?