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[shahmaran]

I'm not planning to go anywhere anytime soon.

The people who left, left because of the GC's, not because of the Turks.

I think you need to check with BirKibrisli-TMT, again!

I don't need to check with anyone.

My family is a living witness, every single member.

Maybe you are confusing me with some ignorant British tourist.

Your family? Your brainwashers! What are they going to tell you to justify their immoral support of the Turkish Invasion and Occupation?

If you don't need to "check" with anyone then how can you make sweeping statements that all TCs left because of GCs? A fine example of your "upbringing"!

Well, half of my family had to live in the hills to save their own lives once buses full of GC's invaded the village urging everyone to gather in the town center before a huge civilian battle begun, while the other half fell prisoners here and there. My grandfather had to start a fire to stop the raging arseholes from following him and his wife and children through the hills. Very clever man.

He later passed away because of lack of treatment in the enclaves.

Some of our workers disappeared never to be found again, along with our trucks, we have been looking after their families ever since.

So you go tell them about brainwashing and my upbringing, I assure you that you will find me a lot more agreeable than them, my sweet little Nazi woman.

I am for a solution, they do not even want to hear the word Gavur ever again, let alone living with you and I do not blame them, if only they had met you

But that was blood and murder days. Today we have none of that, so how do you raise your kids Oracle?

I am almost certain that they will grow up to hate an entire people without knowing why, just like their mother.

So whats your excuse?

[Viewpoint]

B25 we have a whole commitee devoted to your property rights called the IPC rubber stamped by the ECHR. What do you have what was it a few leaflets in Greek.

the what ????

mate, thats a mickey mouse set up, politically achieved, because turkey was having such a hard time.

You have to be joking me, right???

Other Gcs who have settled dont appear to think so, even your lawyers are adivising you to urgently apply before the end of 2011 or your heritery rights are about to go out of the window.

[Oracle]

I'm not planning to go anywhere anytime soon.

The people who left, left because of the GC's, not because of the Turks.

I think you need to check with BirKibrisli-TMT, again!

I don't need to check with anyone.

My family is a living witness, every single member.

Maybe you are confusing me with some ignorant British tourist.

Your family? Your brainwashers! What are they going to tell you to justify their immoral support of the Turkish Invasion and Occupation?

If you don't need to "check" with anyone then how can you make sweeping statements that all TCs left because of GCs? A fine example of your "upbringing"!

Well, half of my family had to live in the hills to save their own lives once buses full of GC's invaded the village urging everyone to gather in the town center before a huge civilian battle begun, while the other half fell prisoners here and there. My grandfather had to start a fire to stop the raging arseholes from following him and his wife and children through the hills. Very clever man.

He later passed away because of lack of treatment in the enclaves.

Some of our workers disappeared never to be found again, along with our trucks, we have been looking after their families ever since.

So you go tell them about brainwashing and my upbringing, I assure you that you will find me a lot more agreeable than them, my sweet little Nazi woman.

I am for a solution, they do not even want to hear the word Gavur ever again, let alone living with you and I do not blame them, if only they had met you

But that was blood and murder days. Today we have none of that, so how do you raise your kids Oracle?

I am almost certain that they will grow up to hate an entire people without knowing why, just like their mother.

So whats your excuse?

Don't ever compare your baseless "hate" with that of others! I lived through Turkish bombardments. You are the one hate-filled by your parents. Mine was first hand experience colouring my views.

As for my uninitiated son -- I will never forget the look on his face after he caught sight of that flag on the way to a shopping expedition in Nicosia!

Turks have spent centuries lying and revising history to suit their purposes. How can you possibly ever be certain of what you are told?

But, I do feel more sorry for you, than hate, little one!

[shahmaran]

I hate no one Oracle, nor have I ever expressed any hate towards any race at any time. So lets just get that "baseless" accusation out the way.

If I have, than prove it, but I am certain you cannot!

Politics is a whole different matter, but I could not possibly hate anyone I do not know, nor I would express such pointless feelings, it is also the downfall of anyone who would use it as an argument because it is irrational.

You on the other hand, I can just do a quick search and find your in-discriminative hate filled posts and threads against ALL Turks!

Just because I am a TC, you ASSUME I must be living off stolen property, you ASSUME I must hate all GC's, you ASSUME my parent must have brainwashed me.

That is the difference my friend.

So how can I be sure?

Because I do not listen to any one person, I read, I research, I travel a lot and I listen to people, I can also judge the amount of truth people speak from their overall attitude. Someone who openly expresses hate towards ALL Turks, is likely to speak a lot of crap. Same goes with people who base their arguments on race, ethnicity, and crooked interpretations of history or just general emotions.

You are a smart woman Oracle, that is why I find it odd. How can a smart person feel so much racist hate, it does not make sense to me.

Maybe you would not defend any of these views in real life and it is just an internet persona, who knows...

[Oracle]

I hate no one Oracle, nor have I ever expressed any hate towards any race at any time. So lets just get that "baseless" accusation out the way.

If I have, than prove it, but I am certain you cannot!

Politics is a whole different matter, but I could not possibly hate anyone I do not know, nor I would express such pointless feelings, it is also the downfall of anyone who would use it as an argument because it is irrational.

You on the other hand, I can just do a quick search and find your in-discriminative hate filled posts and threads against ALL Turks!

Just because I am a TC, you ASSUME I must be living off stolen property, you ASSUME I must hate all GC's, you ASSUME my parent must have brainwashed me.

That is the difference my friend.

So how can I be sure?

Because I do not listen to any one person, I read, I research, I travel a lot and I listen to people, I can also judge the amount of truth people speak from their overall attitude. Someone who openly expresses hate towards ALL Turks, is likely to speak a lot of crap. Same goes with people who base their arguments on race, ethnicity, and crooked interpretations of history or just general emotions.

You are a smart woman Oracle, that is why I find it odd. How can a smart person feel so much racist hate, it does not make sense to me.

Maybe you would not defend any of these views in real life and it is just an internet persona, who knows...

My hate for what the Turks have done to my country comes from hard experience. Why should you hate us? We have done nothing to you and your motherland country (Mongolia?). We did not invade your pastures. We did not convert your Mosques into Churches or stables! We have not changed your village/street names and we do not have 43,000 Greek troops pointing guns at you and stopping you from returning to your homes -- that's if we haven't sold them to other foreigners for fast bucks!

In total -- you have no reason to hate us. The same could not be said of you, the Turks!

[B25]

Shahmaran,

you openly told Piratis " I fucking hate you" a week or so ago. Do you know him??? Well I guess you're just a jying dick then?? Huh?

[B25]

Oh and btw, I found this on your famous C44 site where you carpetbaggers are whinging like hell. I paste it here because it sums up the 'trnc' very nicely and people like VP should take note, here:

"..... You probably need to wake up to the situation here, the TRNC has'nt got a pot to piss in, have been sucking the Turkish teet for so long and playing the victim their get up and go has got up and gone.The TC goverment are clueless in running the place and ruin is not far away. Turkey I believe is letting the place go bust so it can pick up the reigns then over populate the place with mainlanders. The TCs will be history, and NC will be a region of the mainland and kktc will live no longer..."

Ahmen, i rest my case, and this is from people who live in the corrupt state.

[Viewpoint]

Oh and btw, I found this on your famous C44 site where you carpetbaggers are whinging like hell. I paste it here because it sums up the 'trnc' very nicely and people like VP should take note, here:

"..... You probably need to wake up to the situation here, the TRNC has'nt got a pot to piss in, have been sucking the Turkish teet for so long and playing the victim their get up and go has got up and gone.The TC goverment are clueless in running the place and ruin is not far away. Turkey I believe is letting the place go bust so it can pick up the reigns then over populate the place with mainlanders. The TCs will be history, and NC will be a region of the mainland and kktc will live no longer..."

Ahmen, i rest my case, and this is from people who live in the corrupt state.

So what?

[B25]

Oh and btw, I found this on your famous C44 site where you carpetbaggers are whinging like hell. I paste it here because it sums up the 'trnc' very nicely and people like VP should take note, here:

"..... You probably need to wake up to the situation here, the TRNC has'nt got a pot to piss in, have been sucking the Turkish teet for so long and playing the victim their get up and go has got up and gone.The TC goverment are clueless in running the place and ruin is not far away. Turkey I believe is letting the place go bust so it can pick up the reigns then over populate the place with mainlanders. The TCs will be history, and NC will be a region of the mainland and kktc will live no longer..."

Ahmen, i rest my case, and this is from people who live in the corrupt state.

So what?

You're the one always bragging on how ell the 'trnc' is doing, how its moving forward blah blah blah.

This is the real 'trnc' and very soon, it will just be 'T'. like I said, bye bye.

[Viewpoint]

Oh and btw, I found this on your famous C44 site where you carpetbaggers are whinging like hell. I paste it here because it sums up the 'trnc' very nicely and people like VP should take note, here:

"..... You probably need to wake up to the situation here, the TRNC has'nt got a pot to piss in, have been sucking the Turkish teet for so long and playing the victim their get up and go has got up and gone.The TC goverment are clueless in running the place and ruin is not far away. Turkey I believe is letting the place go bust so it can pick up the reigns then over populate the place with mainlanders. The TCs will be history, and NC will be a region of the mainland and kktc will live no longer..."

Ahmen, i rest my case, and this is from people who live in the corrupt state.

So what?

You're the one always bragging on how ell the 'trnc' is doing, how its moving forward blah blah blah.

This is the real 'trnc' and very soon, it will just be 'T'. like I said, bye bye.

Why do you care?, the TRNC concerns us whether we become part of Turkey or disappear thats our business not yours, anything is better than being a minority in a GC state, why do you people have a such a problem understanding this?