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[miltiades]

VP , Zan , you know bloody well that corruption is the order of the day. Every single T/C with half a brain can see it .
Why are you defending a situation where injustices are carried out on a daily basis not only against the T/Cs but those brainless Brits who through sheer greed "invested" their dosh in the occupied parts. I know personally at least a dozen T/Cs who have sworn NEVER to return to this corrupt and badly administered forsaken part of the world.
Look at the hospitals and the general healthcare available it is no wonder that the vast majority of T/Cs seek the sanctuary of the RoC Hospitals. The banks are fleecing the people , T/Cs and foreigners , who ever heard of banks charging more than 100% , yes they do I know it for a fact.

[zan]

VP , Zan , you know bloody well that corruption is the order of the day. Every single T/C with half a brain can see it .
Why are you defending a situation where injustices are carried out on a daily basis not only against the T/Cs but those brainless Brits who through sheer greed "invested" their dosh in the occupied parts. I know personally at least a dozen T/Cs who have sworn NEVER to return to this corrupt and badly administered forsaken part of the world.
Look at the hospitals and the general healthcare available it is no wonder that the vast majority of T/Cs seek the sanctuary of the RoC Hospitals. The banks are fleecing the people , T/Cs and foreigners , who ever heard of banks charging more than 100% , yes they do I know it for a fact.

As long as you can create and live in the tiny little bubble of your coffee shop Milti, and HOPE on the word of a dozen TCs AND ignore that of a few hundred thousand then.........Be happy.....It won't last.......Reality has a habit of biting you in the arse.....

Don't worry about the corruption in the "RoC".....Your politicians are corrupt and your youth are violent but then I know a few GCs that say this isn't so, and I will build MY own little world around that one

[miltiades]

VP , Zan , you know bloody well that corruption is the order of the day. Every single T/C with half a brain can see it .
Why are you defending a situation where injustices are carried out on a daily basis not only against the T/Cs but those brainless Brits who through sheer greed "invested" their dosh in the occupied parts. I know personally at least a dozen T/Cs who have sworn NEVER to return to this corrupt and badly administered forsaken part of the world.
Look at the hospitals and the general healthcare available it is no wonder that the vast majority of T/Cs seek the sanctuary of the RoC Hospitals. The banks are fleecing the people , T/Cs and foreigners , who ever heard of banks charging more than 100% , yes they do I know it for a fact.

As long as you can create and live in the tiny little bubble of your coffee shop Milti, and HOPE on the word of a dozen TCs AND ignore that of a few hundred thousand then.........Be happy.....It won't last.......Reality has a habit of biting you in the arse.....

Don't worry about the corruption in the "RoC".....Your politicians are corrupt and your youth are violent but then I know a few GCs that say this isn't so, and I will build MY own little world around that one

The fact Zan is that you constantly talk rubbish !
You refer to South Londons largest Catering Equipment Distributors as ....my coffee shop ! Perfect example of your preposterous statements , just look at your signature for instance !
Have a look at my ...coffee shop www.devonscatering.co.uk
You are not stupid you know very well that the pseudo state is nothing more than a mickey mouse corrupt entity , the T/Cs have been hoodwinked by the likes of you Zan , they are being exterminated slowly and surely , they are an endangered specie , but not those who put Cyprus as their motherland , they are NEVER a minority like VP and you they are a part of the overwhelming majority of Cypriots first and fuck Greece and Turkey. I bet you would never tell Turkey to fuck off would the same way I tell Greece to do so. !!!

[vaughanwilliams]

I didn't expect this report from Huriyet ....... they must have realised something

They? Or Munir realised it currently? This is a well known fact... "Capitalism unsentimentally rewards productive people and punishes unproductive people"...

Productive people all around the world are welcomed to join the productive forces of TRNC...

Calling all prostitutes from all around the world... plenty of career opportunities available in the occupied north.

You just can't have "too many" tarts.

[humanist]

VP

You can step away because you live abroad but this island is our home where we want to live in peace without being domintaed by GCs. If thats to be the case which is what you are offering we would rather the current evloution process, do you understand what I am saying or are you just stupid? TCs have the choice to move south where you claim theit is the united structure which we would be offered if we were to accept your demands yet TCs choose not to move knowing full well that the new generation TCs will continue to increase to a level where you will no longer want to unite and will be begging for division.

As for the current situation and its continuation you (GCs) to have to should as much responsiblity as anyone else as it was your enosis dream which caused the TA to arrive and your continued rejction of every solution put before you that guarantees the current divide will remain for a very long time to come.

OK

[EPSILON]

Cypriot Turks’ final resort: Wake up or die!

As a matter of fact the problem in northern Cyprus is political not economic. An incapable government and a sluggish political system operate in Cyprus today. Furthermore, there are alternatives to neither, and this has been the case for a long time.

The structure has created an economy based on donations as Turkish Cypriots have turned into beggars. The economy in the northern Cyprus survives through Turkey’s support.

This is the reality that has created a single focal point; which is to increase aid from Turkey and for Turkey to have a say in its distribution.

More clearly though, politics in northern Cyprus has simply been built on unearned income which poisons both politics and the economy.

In the current system neither private sector, nor planning and programming, nor dreams exist. For most people, politics and trade unions are what is important, to earn bigger shares from Ankara and to spend without earning or producing anything.

With this, Turkey is actually harming Turkish Cypriots because money keeps this corrupted system with no future alive.

As long as money is transferred to northern Cyprus, unless the Cypriot system hits the bottom, Turkish Cypriots will not try to come up with formulas for salvation. Politicians in office representing the state today will set obstacles before the entire finance discipline and reform programs Turkey imposes.

Under these circumstances, it is futile to seek negotiations with Greek Cypriots. For if an agreement is reached, even by chance, and if a federal state is established, Greek Cypriots will leave their Turkish cohabiters way behind.

The internal dynamics of northern Cyprus

In the south, there is a European Union member country which is well-organized, institutionalized, sober and prosperous. In the north, there is an economy which is still in the intensive care unit, so to speak. Other than prostitution and gambling sector, there is nothing in the north that can compete with the economy operated by the Greek Cypriots.

Obviously, considering the internal dynamics northern Cyprus cannot make any reforms and set-up a market economy to rise on its own two feet.

Political parties will never take measures to set the economy on a healthy ground and get involved in cooperation voluntarily.

They don’t have the power.

In this case, Turkey will either keep paying northern Cyprus’ bills or withdraw support to teach them a lesson, or push Turkish Cypriots into the corner for self-healing.

The most realistic approach

The best strategy would be to leave northern Cyprus alone to its fate. But I don’t think Ankara will do that. Then, the most realistic approach is the latter.

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan should create some time and sit together with party leaders in northern Cyprus. He should convince them to support the protocol signed between Turkey and northern Cyprus a few months ago. Necessary reforms should be done with political and economic support in addition to the assistance of all political parties in northern Cyprus.

I don’t think anyone else can do this.

If Turkish Cypriots are not given a wake-up call, their fate is known: either being wiped out by immigrants from Turkey or by Greek Cypriots.

Metin Münir is a columnist for the daily Milliyet, in which this piece appeared Saturday. It was translated into English by the Daily News staff.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2010-08-25

Must really hurt to know that the above times 100 over is much preferred to becoming a minority in a GC dominated state.

ok noted- no problem at all-keep walking your way and the hell is near.

[shahmaran]

In a few generations, the Cypriots will have a valuable lesson -

Remember the foolishness of the Turkish Cypriots - they are no more.

Why have you got Northern Ireland on your signature.......Are they still there????

Had you TCs followed the Northern Ireland model, that would have secured your future, but ...

You thought that 1974 was your liberation - as it turns out, its your obliteration.

40 years plus and we are still here Ed.......Hope you are around in another 40 to see you are wrong!!!

When the Turkish forces took 37% of our Country you bought into the lie that you where liberated.

Turkey ethnically cleansed the GC element from the north and is now going about enthnically cleansing all traces of TC elements from the north, replacing it with the generic "Turks of Cyprus".

So what are you?

A Turkish Cypriot whom I class as a proper Cypriot, or an ethnically cleansed "Turk of Cyprus"?

What were you doing when the GC's spent 20 years trying to ethnically cleanse the island?

Oh wait, that was a democratic right, right Ed?

[shahmaran]

VP , Zan , you know bloody well that corruption is the order of the day. Every single T/C with half a brain can see it .
Why are you defending a situation where injustices are carried out on a daily basis not only against the T/Cs but those brainless Brits who through sheer greed "invested" their dosh in the occupied parts. I know personally at least a dozen T/Cs who have sworn NEVER to return to this corrupt and badly administered forsaken part of the world.
Look at the hospitals and the general healthcare available it is no wonder that the vast majority of T/Cs seek the sanctuary of the RoC Hospitals. The banks are fleecing the people , T/Cs and foreigners , who ever heard of banks charging more than 100% , yes they do I know it for a fact.

As long as you can create and live in the tiny little bubble of your coffee shop Milti, and HOPE on the word of a dozen TCs AND ignore that of a few hundred thousand then.........Be happy.....It won't last.......Reality has a habit of biting you in the arse.....

Don't worry about the corruption in the "RoC".....Your politicians are corrupt and your youth are violent but then I know a few GCs that say this isn't so, and I will build MY own little world around that one

The fact Zan is that you constantly talk rubbish !
You refer to South Londons largest Catering Equipment Distributors as ....my coffee shop ! Perfect example of your preposterous statements , just look at your signature for instance !
Have a look at my ...coffee shop www.devonscatering.co.uk
You are not stupid you know very well that the pseudo state is nothing more than a mickey mouse corrupt entity , the T/Cs have been hoodwinked by the likes of you Zan , they are being exterminated slowly and surely , they are an endangered specie , but not those who put Cyprus as their motherland , they are NEVER a minority like VP and you they are a part of the overwhelming majority of Cypriots first and fuck Greece and Turkey. I bet you would never tell Turkey to fuck off would the same way I tell Greece to do so. !!!

Stop talking crap Milti.

You know very well that the TC community had started leaving the island long before the Turks showed up to save the day.

They were the only ones being "told to fuck off" back then.

[zan]

VP , Zan , you know bloody well that corruption is the order of the day. Every single T/C with half a brain can see it .
Why are you defending a situation where injustices are carried out on a daily basis not only against the T/Cs but those brainless Brits who through sheer greed "invested" their dosh in the occupied parts. I know personally at least a dozen T/Cs who have sworn NEVER to return to this corrupt and badly administered forsaken part of the world.
Look at the hospitals and the general healthcare available it is no wonder that the vast majority of T/Cs seek the sanctuary of the RoC Hospitals. The banks are fleecing the people , T/Cs and foreigners , who ever heard of banks charging more than 100% , yes they do I know it for a fact.

As long as you can create and live in the tiny little bubble of your coffee shop Milti, and HOPE on the word of a dozen TCs AND ignore that of a few hundred thousand then.........Be happy.....It won't last.......Reality has a habit of biting you in the arse.....

Don't worry about the corruption in the "RoC".....Your politicians are corrupt and your youth are violent but then I know a few GCs that say this isn't so, and I will build MY own little world around that one

The fact Zan is that you constantly talk rubbish !
You refer to South Londons largest Catering Equipment Distributors as ....my coffee shop ! Perfect example of your preposterous statements , just look at your signature for instance !
Have a look at my ...coffee shop www.devonscatering.co.uk
You are not stupid you know very well that the pseudo state is nothing more than a mickey mouse corrupt entity , the T/Cs have been hoodwinked by the likes of you Zan , they are being exterminated slowly and surely , they are an endangered specie , but not those who put Cyprus as their motherland , they are NEVER a minority like VP and you they are a part of the overwhelming majority of Cypriots first and fuck Greece and Turkey. I bet you would never tell Turkey to fuck off would the same way I tell Greece to do so. !!!

Stop talking crap Milti.

You know very well that the TC community had started leaving the island long before the Turks showed up to save the day.

They were the only ones being "told to fuck off" back then.

I and my family are living proof of that. Of course Milti was a self confessed signatory of ENOSIS at the time

[shahmaran]

Bah, what do you expect from a US/Israel supporter.