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Re: Cypriot Turks’ final resort: Wake up or die!

Postby Get Real! » Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:31 pm

Malapapa wrote:
Other than prostitution and gambling sector, there is nothing in the north


Interesting.

More than enough to satisfy VP! :lol:
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Re: Cypriot Turks’ final resort: Wake up or die!

Postby zan » Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:36 pm

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Cypriot Turks’ final resort: Wake up or die!

As a matter of fact the problem in northern Cyprus is political not economic. An incapable government and a sluggish political system operate in Cyprus today. Furthermore, there are alternatives to neither, and this has been the case for a long time.

The structure has created an economy based on donations as Turkish Cypriots have turned into beggars. The economy in the northern Cyprus survives through Turkey’s support.

This is the reality that has created a single focal point; which is to increase aid from Turkey and for Turkey to have a say in its distribution.

More clearly though, politics in northern Cyprus has simply been built on unearned income which poisons both politics and the economy.

In the current system neither private sector, nor planning and programming, nor dreams exist. For most people, politics and trade unions are what is important, to earn bigger shares from Ankara and to spend without earning or producing anything.

With this, Turkey is actually harming Turkish Cypriots because money keeps this corrupted system with no future alive.

As long as money is transferred to northern Cyprus, unless the Cypriot system hits the bottom, Turkish Cypriots will not try to come up with formulas for salvation. Politicians in office representing the state today will set obstacles before the entire finance discipline and reform programs Turkey imposes.

Under these circumstances, it is futile to seek negotiations with Greek Cypriots. For if an agreement is reached, even by chance, and if a federal state is established, Greek Cypriots will leave their Turkish cohabiters way behind.

The internal dynamics of northern Cyprus

In the south, there is a European Union member country which is well-organized, institutionalized, sober and prosperous. In the north, there is an economy which is still in the intensive care unit, so to speak. Other than prostitution and gambling sector, there is nothing in the north that can compete with the economy operated by the Greek Cypriots.

Obviously, considering the internal dynamics northern Cyprus cannot make any reforms and set-up a market economy to rise on its own two feet.

Political parties will never take measures to set the economy on a healthy ground and get involved in cooperation voluntarily.

They don’t have the power.

In this case, Turkey will either keep paying northern Cyprus’ bills or withdraw support to teach them a lesson, or push Turkish Cypriots into the corner for self-healing.

The most realistic approach

The best strategy would be to leave northern Cyprus alone to its fate. But I don’t think Ankara will do that. Then, the most realistic approach is the latter.

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan should create some time and sit together with party leaders in northern Cyprus. He should convince them to support the protocol signed between Turkey and northern Cyprus a few months ago. Necessary reforms should be done with political and economic support in addition to the assistance of all political parties in northern Cyprus.

I don’t think anyone else can do this.

If Turkish Cypriots are not given a wake-up call, their fate is known: either being wiped out by immigrants from Turkey or by Greek Cypriots.

Metin Münir is a columnist for the daily Milliyet, in which this piece appeared Saturday. It was translated into English by the Daily News staff.


http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2010-08-25


What this guy doesn't realise is that he has isolated these few aspects of a solution and not added the fact that EU and American money will come into play and our brothers from far and wide will be encouraged to invest in the North.......Not all this doom and gloom shit!!! :roll:
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Postby humanist » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:16 am

There is no doubt in my mind that Huriyet has no interest in TC's or GC's I believe the media mogul probably wants expansion in the EU therefore they are wanting a solution as quickly as possible because as a newspaper they have realised that the only thing keeping Turkey away from EU membership is the Cyprus problem. In order for them to capitalise on EU population and sell more newspapers they need to have this solution

Am not sure if that is the essence of this article but I take a guess saying capitalism and profit is what has driven them to write the article.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:28 am

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Must really hurt to know that the above times 100 over is much preferred to becoming a minority in a GC dominated state.


Not at all. I can step away though and look at it and say ... TC's best take note because the only people that are gonna suffer is your future generation.

My gripe and only gripe is that you are denying a vast majority of people their basic right of access to their properties and whilst your community is going down big time. Whether you are able or willing to examine it or not I am not able to have access to my Country and you are taking us down too.


You can step away because you live abroad but this island is our home where we want to live in peace without being domintaed by GCs. If thats to be the case which is what you are offering we would rather the current evloution process, do you understand what I am saying or are you just stupid? TCs have the choice to move south where you claim theit is the united structure which we would be offered if we were to accept your demands yet TCs choose not to move knowing full well that the new generation TCs will continue to increase to a level where you will no longer want to unite and will be begging for division.

As for the current situation and its continuation you (GCs) to have to should as much responsiblity as anyone else as it was your enosis dream which caused the TA to arrive and your continued rejction of every solution put before you that guarantees the current divide will remain for a very long time to come.
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Postby Me Ed » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:21 am

In a few generations, the Cypriots will have a valuable lesson -

Remember the foolishness of the Turkish Cypriots - they are no more.
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Postby zan » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:23 am

Me Ed wrote:In a few generations, the Cypriots will have a valuable lesson -

Remember the foolishness of the Turkish Cypriots - they are no more.


Why have you got Northern Ireland on your signature.......Are they still there???? :roll:
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Postby Me Ed » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:28 am

zan wrote:
Me Ed wrote:In a few generations, the Cypriots will have a valuable lesson -

Remember the foolishness of the Turkish Cypriots - they are no more.


Why have you got Northern Ireland on your signature.......Are they still there???? :roll:

Had you TCs followed the Northern Ireland model, that would have secured your future, but ...

You thought that 1974 was your liberation - as it turns out, its your obliteration.
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Postby zan » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:30 am

Me Ed wrote:
zan wrote:
Me Ed wrote:In a few generations, the Cypriots will have a valuable lesson -

Remember the foolishness of the Turkish Cypriots - they are no more.


Why have you got Northern Ireland on your signature.......Are they still there???? :roll:

Had you TCs followed the Northern Ireland model, that would have secured your future, but ...

You thought that 1974 was your liberation - as it turns out, its your obliteration.



40 years plus and we are still here Ed.......Hope you are around in another 40 to see you are wrong!!!
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Postby Me Ed » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:44 am

zan wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
zan wrote:
Me Ed wrote:In a few generations, the Cypriots will have a valuable lesson -

Remember the foolishness of the Turkish Cypriots - they are no more.


Why have you got Northern Ireland on your signature.......Are they still there???? :roll:

Had you TCs followed the Northern Ireland model, that would have secured your future, but ...

You thought that 1974 was your liberation - as it turns out, its your obliteration.



40 years plus and we are still here Ed.......Hope you are around in another 40 to see you are wrong!!!

When the Turkish forces took 37% of our Country you bought into the lie that you where liberated.

Turkey ethnically cleansed the GC element from the north and is now going about enthnically cleansing all traces of TC elements from the north, replacing it with the generic "Turks of Cyprus".

So what are you?

A Turkish Cypriot whom I class as a proper Cypriot, or an ethnically cleansed "Turk of Cyprus"?
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Postby zan » Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:03 am

Me Ed wrote:
zan wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
zan wrote:
Me Ed wrote:In a few generations, the Cypriots will have a valuable lesson -

Remember the foolishness of the Turkish Cypriots - they are no more.


Why have you got Northern Ireland on your signature.......Are they still there???? :roll:

Had you TCs followed the Northern Ireland model, that would have secured your future, but ...

You thought that 1974 was your liberation - as it turns out, its your obliteration.



40 years plus and we are still here Ed.......Hope you are around in another 40 to see you are wrong!!!

When the Turkish forces took 37% of our Country you bought into the lie that you where liberated.

Turkey ethnically cleansed the GC element from the north and is now going about enthnically cleansing all traces of TC elements from the north, replacing it with the generic "Turks of Cyprus".

So what are you?

A Turkish Cypriot whom I class as a proper Cypriot, or an ethnically cleansed "Turk of Cyprus"?


I am a TC from the TRNC...Simple as that.
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