BirKibrisli wrote:They have nothing but hatred and bitterness in their hearts,and they would do what theydid to the TCs did during the 50s and the 60s and early 70s all over again,only with more vengence this time...
BirKibrisli wrote:Alan,do not waste your time and energy on these people...They are the GC fanatics who are responsible for the tragedy in Cyprus...They have nothing but hatred and bitterness in their hearts,and they would do what theydid to the TCs did during the 50s and the 60s and early 70s all over again,only with more vengence this time...Not all GCs are like these,thankfully...I personally met some very human,kind and hospitable GCs during my visit to the RoC in 2007...But it only takes one rotten egg to spoil the omlette,and as long as people like these fanatics exist on and off the island we cannot possibly move forward as one people one nation,which is my dream,and I feel it is yours as well...Brush up on your Turkish language and culture,these fanatics will eventually drive every one of us into Turkey's arms permanently...And they will blame that on us as well...Go figure...
charlie brown wrote:How the whole wourld laughts at you turkey. you blame my perents for the abuse i throw at you but when did the perent of the turkish army teach them to rape six year old children ha ? you false interlectual twatt go fuck yourself and your filthy propogander mouth. motherfucker.
charlie brown wrote:AlanwithoneL wrote:BirKibrisli wrote:Alan,do not waste your time and energy on these people...They are the GC fanatics who are responsible for the tragedy in Cyprus...They have nothing but hatred and bitterness in their hearts,and they would do what theydid to the TCs did during the 50s and the 60s and early 70s all over again,only with more vengence this time...Not all GCs are like these,thankfully...I personally met some very human,kind and hospitable GCs during my visit to the RoC in 2007...But it only takes one rotten egg to spoil the omlette,and as long as people like these fanatics exist on and off the island we cannot possibly move forward as one people one nation,which is my dream,and I feel it is yours as well...Brush up on your Turkish language and culture,these fanatics will eventually drive every one of us into Turkey's arms permanently...And they will blame that on us as well...Go figure...
I'm afraid to admit this but you're absolutely right BirKibrisli. I have seen posts exchanged between yourself and Bananiot which is so encouraging then come along these fanatics and panic sets in.
I am very proud of my Cypriotness and don't think I want to give it up. If I wanted to live in Turkey I could easily do that but this is my home. All we have to do is to convert all these fanatics to accept us as Cypriots and hopefully in time this will happen.
Look at the BNP here, they had a couple of local councils and a seat or 2 in parliament, last elections they were totally wiped out and they lost what they had, now there is a strong rumour that the party may be disbanded, so people like this lot have no place in our modern world, wherever they are so give it time and things will get better for all of us.
Sorry but I'm not going to brush up on my Turkish language or culture, I'm Cypriot through and through. My avatar is the Union jack but that's only because I have adopted the UK as my home, until we sort things out in Cyprus.
Oh you poor hard done by perthetic jerk. grow up and stop behaving in such a perthetic manner.I can imagen you walk around the streets of london with soiled underpants and stink to high heven for that is the picture you are painting of yourself.
BirKibrisli wrote:Alan,do not waste your time and energy on these people...They are the GC fanatics who are responsible for the tragedy in Cyprus...
BirKibrisli wrote:Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:50 am
I know the official history of the EOKA and the TMT,bigOZ...
I will let others (preferably GCs talk about the rights and wrongs of EOKA)
but let me tell you a few things about TMT...The movement which produced TMT started much earlier,after the 2nd world war...It was a political movement called Volkan,and it s aims were to safeguard TC interests in case of a British withdrawal.My father was one of the founders of Volkan...when it was decided that an underground fighting force was necessary to combat any possible aggression from GCs TMT was founded...My father was a regional commmader in the Paphos area (he was also a teacher) and I remember our house in Yalya turned into an arms depot,with us kids as the guardians and protectors of the loot...Many a night I lay in bed snuggling up to handguns,stenguns,and granades,while British soldiers serched our house...Being British they never thought to look under the doona of a sleeping child or a sick (!) woman...and they never found the arms...while TMT was under the control of Dr Kuchuk and A>M>Berberoglu (my father's side) it functioned pretty much as was intended...But when Turkey decided that they needed "real action men" to run TMT Rauf Denktash and Burhan Nalbantoglu took over...Turkey threatened to kill Kuchuk and his supporters if they resisted,so they didn't...soon TMT was acting like a terrorist organisation in guise as a selfdefence organisation,putting fear into their own people,and killing and bombing strategic targets to achieve their ultimate aim,Partition...This is when my father,who was an honorable man,fell out with Denktash and Co and he was on their hitlist for a while...In fact Father was on the hitlist of EOKA as well,as they rightly suspected that he was the area commander in Paphos...But when the hitman finally arrived he was from the TMT,but by divine intervention,he turned out to be one of my father's former students...So instead of killing him he warned him of the danger,and I remember a time when we were on the move all the time to avoid a second hitman...
So dear, bigOz,I owe my exile to Australia to the TMT more than the EOKA...
This does not mean that TMT did nothing good for the TCs...or that all members were murderous thugs...But the leaders were,and they were kept in check somehow by the Turkish colonel in charge of TMT during the early 60s (Kemal Coskun code named Bayraktar,who was withdrawn to Turkey after the 67 events)...sorry to disappoint you,bigOz,but after more than 50 years of keeping silent about these things,I have earned the right to talk...It is upto you to believe me or not...But ask yourself,what motivation would I have to make all this up???All this information is in the public arena these days anyway...Read Arif Hasan Tahsin Hoca's column in Afrika and you will learn the truth about the TMT...warts and all...I want to stress the point that most underground organisations like TMT eventually end up serving the interests of those who control them,and not the general community interests...TMT was conrolled by Denktash locally and Turkey overseas,so it ended up serving their interests...In the process many good,honorable people who wanted to serve the interest of the TC people or the interests of all Cypriots were killed or sent into exile...I know you mean well,bigOz,and sorry once again if I woke you up from the dream imposed by Denktash and Co's propaganda machine...
AlanwithoneL wrote:Instead of playing silly games why cant you be a bit more constructive and think more positively about the future of Cyprus, don't forget to include us in your constructive ideas
Get Real! wrote:AlanwithoneL wrote:Instead of playing silly games why cant you be a bit more constructive and think more positively about the future of Cyprus, don't forget to include us in your constructive ideas
I hate to disappoint you but my vision of the future of Cyprus does NOT include Mosques, camels, dates, or the Mufti!
All that belongs in Turkey...
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