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Postby miltiades » Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:50 am

cyprusgrump wrote:
miltiades wrote:Ban it did you say ? Free speech ?
I would not only ban this fucking piece of shit
I would arrest the sock bastards who made it and hang them
by the balls ! There are too many sickos out there exploiting young mostly
people Ban them all I say !!


But who decides what to ban...? Not you...

What if somebody else wants to ban something you like because it offends them?

Mate you have the same philosophy on this subject as you do for smoking.
Freedom of speech DOES NOT include some sick piece of shit glorifying murder , paedophilia , necrophilia and other perverted acts. Get it into head the majority of decent people do not approve the exaltation of depraved practices . Some time back we had in the streets of London an Islamic fundamentalist proclaiming that free speech gave him the right to proclaim that killing Jews and infidels is perfectly ok !!
There are limits of free speech , not what I endorse but what public decency demands.We are not living in a jungle .
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Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:02 am

miltiades wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
miltiades wrote:Ban it did you say ? Free speech ?
I would not only ban this fucking piece of shit
I would arrest the sock bastards who made it and hang them
by the balls ! There are too many sickos out there exploiting young mostly
people Ban them all I say !!


But who decides what to ban...? Not you...

What if somebody else wants to ban something you like because it offends them?

Mate you have the same philosophy on this subject as you do for smoking.
Freedom of speech DOES NOT include some sick piece of shit glorifying murder , paedophilia , necrophilia and other perverted acts. Get it into head the majority of decent people do not approve the exaltation of depraved practices . Some time back we had in the streets of London an Islamic fundamentalist proclaiming that free speech gave him the right to proclaim that killing Jews and infidels is perfectly ok !!
There are limits of free speech , not what I endorse but what public decency demands.We are not living in a jungle .


Like so many, you only think 'freedom of speech' should apply to things you approve of... :roll:

Anything you don't approve of - like smoking - should be banned. Everywhere, no exceptions, not just places you go but everywhere.

Don't like it? Ban it... your freedom to see, hear, read, smell protected no matter what anybody else thinks.

Very libertarian I must say... :lol:
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Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:16 am

The problem with banning stuff is that it is a very slippery slope.

If you ban the game mentioned in the OP, where do you stop?

Do you ban Counterstrike (supposedly the #1 on-line action game in the world) in which 'terrorists' fight 'security forces'?

How about a WW2 based game where one side plays 'allies' and the other Germans? I've no doubt that some would find that distasteful - even if it was set in an historically accurate 'world'...

How about a game in a fictional world (like Doom for instance) where you attack and kill fictional monsters (often in the most violent way)...?

Or Futurama where you control a fictional cartoon character that shoots fictional cartoon monsters...?
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Postby miltiades » Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:22 am

cyprusgrump wrote:
miltiades wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
miltiades wrote:Ban it did you say ? Free speech ?
I would not only ban this fucking piece of shit
I would arrest the sock bastards who made it and hang them
by the balls ! There are too many sickos out there exploiting young mostly
people Ban them all I say !!


But who decides what to ban...? Not you...

What if somebody else wants to ban something you like because it offends them?

Mate you have the same philosophy on this subject as you do for smoking.
Freedom of speech DOES NOT include some sick piece of shit glorifying murder , paedophilia , necrophilia and other perverted acts. Get it into head the majority of decent people do not approve the exaltation of depraved practices . Some time back we had in the streets of London an Islamic fundamentalist proclaiming that free speech gave him the right to proclaim that killing Jews and infidels is perfectly ok !!
There are limits of free speech , not what I endorse but what public decency demands.We are not living in a jungle .


Like so many, you only think 'freedom of speech' should apply to things you approve of... :roll:

Anything you don't approve of - like smoking - should be banned. Everywhere, no exceptions, not just places you go but everywhere.

Don't like it? Ban it... your freedom to see, hear, read, smell protected no matter what anybody else thinks.

Very libertarian I must say... :lol:

Rubbish ! May I ask how old you are ?
Disapproving of perverted acts , unsocial behaviour ,. criminal acts irresponsible hooligans misbehaving , child molesting and such other unsocial indecent acts does not mean that its just I who condemns .
Grow up because you are talking rubbish .
ps. Smoking IS BAD for you and for those around you the authorities have a moral obligation to defend the innocent passive smokers .
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Postby paliometoxo » Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:27 am

there is a number of ps3 games i see in public that say not for sale in the uk. they do ban games in the uk and other countries for different reasons.
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Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:37 am

miltiades wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
miltiades wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
miltiades wrote:Ban it did you say ? Free speech ?
I would not only ban this fucking piece of shit
I would arrest the sock bastards who made it and hang them
by the balls ! There are too many sickos out there exploiting young mostly
people Ban them all I say !!


But who decides what to ban...? Not you...

What if somebody else wants to ban something you like because it offends them?

Mate you have the same philosophy on this subject as you do for smoking.
Freedom of speech DOES NOT include some sick piece of shit glorifying murder , paedophilia , necrophilia and other perverted acts. Get it into head the majority of decent people do not approve the exaltation of depraved practices . Some time back we had in the streets of London an Islamic fundamentalist proclaiming that free speech gave him the right to proclaim that killing Jews and infidels is perfectly ok !!
There are limits of free speech , not what I endorse but what public decency demands.We are not living in a jungle .


Like so many, you only think 'freedom of speech' should apply to things you approve of... :roll:

Anything you don't approve of - like smoking - should be banned. Everywhere, no exceptions, not just places you go but everywhere.

Don't like it? Ban it... your freedom to see, hear, read, smell protected no matter what anybody else thinks.

Very libertarian I must say... :lol:

Rubbish ! May I ask how old you are ?
Disapproving of perverted acts , unsocial behaviour ,. criminal acts irresponsible hooligans misbehaving , child molesting and such other unsocial indecent acts does not mean that its just I who condemns .
Grow up because you are talking rubbish .
ps. Smoking IS BAD for you and for those around you the authorities have a moral obligation to defend the innocent passive smokers .


I'm fifty...

You constantly put up 'straw man' arguments when you 'debate' anything...

The original post is about banning a violent video game yet you constantly refer to 'perverted acts , unsocial behaviour ,. criminal acts irresponsible hooligans misbehaving , child molesting and such other unsocial indecent acts'.

Why don't you concentrate on the matter at hand... if you wish to ban this video game, which others of those that I listed would you also ban...?

I won't start a smoking ban debate with you as I know you are not open to alternative views to your own on the subject...
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Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:44 am

miltiades wrote:Rubbish ! May I ask how old you are ?
Disapproving of perverted acts , unsocial behaviour ,. criminal acts irresponsible hooligans misbehaving , child molesting and such other unsocial indecent acts does not mean that its just I who condemns .
Grow up because you are talking rubbish .
ps. Smoking IS BAD for you and for those around you the authorities have a moral obligation to defend the innocent passive smokers .


By the way... here is a link to Straw Man Arguments and you can add Ad hominem attacks to your list of 'debating skills' too... :lol:
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Postby Cap » Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:26 pm

Oh yeah? Why didn't Britain ban 'Call of Duty 2' ??

Here's exactly what the British soldiers call the Germans in the game. 'Bloody Krauts' 'Bloody Wankers' (I kid you not) and 'fascist bastards' used over and over again during the WW2 battles and course of the game.

Shouldn't THAT be banned??
Double standards me thinks...
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Postby paliometoxo » Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:36 pm

ask the people that ban games ;)
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Postby Oracle » Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:39 pm

Cap wrote:Oh yeah? Why didn't Britain ban 'Call of Duty 2' ??

Here's exactly what the British soldiers call the Germans in the game. 'Bloody Krauts' 'Bloody Wankers' (I kid you not) and 'fascist bastards' used over and over again during the WW2 battles and course of the game.

Shouldn't THAT be banned??
Double standards me thinks...


Well, it sounds like the objections with this game are not that you can use equally offensive language on the enemy (Taliban); the objections seem to be that you can use such language against the British troops (or USA maybe).
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