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[bill cobbett]

... and don't like governments.... or being told what to do.... or attempts at dehumanising conditioning.... etc.... etc.....

[Schnauzer]

Easiest way to avoid the commitment to one's country (Cyprus in particular) is to run like a rabbit before you reach the age of service and make your home in a foreign land (where you can avoid conscription by relying on your 'Cypriotness) and, after many years of dodging the issues, return to the country you were so reluctant to offer your service to, spouting about how great life has been living among the people of the nation that destroyed your own.

As a bonus, you COULD assume the position of one who dearly loves Cyprus and become a vociferous advocate of what it's future should be, such a stance would require a certain amount of 'Thick Skin' and an underlying wish that nobody would notice, providing you were LOUD enough in your campaign for capitulation to the aforesaid nation.

Personally, I think a pusillanmous old 'Draft Dodger' should keep his head down a bit, after all, at the very least one's self respect must surely be in peril if the 'Head' (or written protest/opinion/insult) should appear over the political trenches................... tut, tut.

[bill cobbett]

Easiest way to avoid the commitment to one's country (Cyprus in particular) is to run like a rabbit before you reach the age of service and make your home in a foreign land (where you can avoid conscription by relying on your 'Cypriotness) and, after many years of dodging the issues, return to the country you were so reluctant to offer your service to, spouting about how great life has been living among the people of the nation that destroyed your own.

As a bonus, you COULD assume the position of one who dearly loves Cyprus and become a vociferous advocate of what it's future should be, such a stance would require a certain amount of 'Thick Skin' and an underlying wish that nobody would notice, providing you were LOUD enough in your campaign for capitulation to the aforesaid nation.

Personally, I think a pusillanmous old 'Draft Dodger' should keep his head down a bit, after all, at the very least one's self respect must surely be in peril if the 'Head' (or written protest/opinion/insult) should appear over the political trenches................... tut, tut.

What on this good earth are you jabbering on about mate/matess?

[shahmaran]

As I understand, the RoC constitution, including the citizenship system, was imposed on the island's people by foreign imperialists.

Jus Sanguinis!

Sounds like something only the architects of the Akritas Plan would vote for...

Not even Turkey is THAT racist.

[shahmaran]

Easiest way to avoid the commitment to one's country (Cyprus in particular) is to run like a rabbit before you reach the age of service and make your home in a foreign land (where you can avoid conscription by relying on your 'Cypriotness) and, after many years of dodging the issues, return to the country you were so reluctant to offer your service to, spouting about how great life has been living among the people of the nation that destroyed your own.

As a bonus, you COULD assume the position of one who dearly loves Cyprus and become a vociferous advocate of what it's future should be, such a stance would require a certain amount of 'Thick Skin' and an underlying wish that nobody would notice, providing you were LOUD enough in your campaign for capitulation to the aforesaid nation.

Personally, I think a pusillanmous old 'Draft Dodger' should keep his head down a bit, after all, at the very least one's self respect must surely be in peril if the 'Head' (or written protest/opinion/insult) should appear over the political trenches................... tut, tut.

There is being forced to do it and having to just ride it through with minimal damage, and there is actually believing that it will do you good!

2 totally different mindsets!

[Schnauzer]

Easiest way to avoid the commitment to one's country (Cyprus in particular) is to run like a rabbit before you reach the age of service and make your home in a foreign land (where you can avoid conscription by relying on your 'Cypriotness) and, after many years of dodging the issues, return to the country you were so reluctant to offer your service to, spouting about how great life has been living among the people of the nation that destroyed your own.

As a bonus, you COULD assume the position of one who dearly loves Cyprus and become a vociferous advocate of what it's future should be, such a stance would require a certain amount of 'Thick Skin' and an underlying wish that nobody would notice, providing you were LOUD enough in your campaign for capitulation to the aforesaid nation.

Personally, I think a pusillanmous old 'Draft Dodger' should keep his head down a bit, after all, at the very least one's self respect must surely be in peril if the 'Head' (or written protest/opinion/insult) should appear over the political trenches................... tut, tut.

What on this good earth are you jabbering on about mate/matess?

You would have to be an old 'Draft Dodger' to understand such 'Jabber'.

[Schnauzer]

Easiest way to avoid the commitment to one's country (Cyprus in particular) is to run like a rabbit before you reach the age of service and make your home in a foreign land (where you can avoid conscription by relying on your 'Cypriotness) and, after many years of dodging the issues, return to the country you were so reluctant to offer your service to, spouting about how great life has been living among the people of the nation that destroyed your own.

As a bonus, you COULD assume the position of one who dearly loves Cyprus and become a vociferous advocate of what it's future should be, such a stance would require a certain amount of 'Thick Skin' and an underlying wish that nobody would notice, providing you were LOUD enough in your campaign for capitulation to the aforesaid nation.

Personally, I think a pusillanmous old 'Draft Dodger' should keep his head down a bit, after all, at the very least one's self respect must surely be in peril if the 'Head' (or written protest/opinion/insult) should appear over the political trenches................... tut, tut.

There is being forced to do it and having to just ride it through with minimal damage, and there is actually believing that it will do you good!

2 totally different mindsets!

But here we are dealing with a 3rd mindset............ one which reasons that by running away from the responsibility of serving one's country and taking refuge in the land which was instrumental in destroying one's own homeland, is an acceptable route for a young man to follow.

[alex_ruffneck]

There is being forced to do it and having to just ride it through with minimal damage, and there is actually believing that it will do you good!

2 totally different mindsets!

But it's all subjective, what might be good for one person might not be for someone else... an experience one may gain from, another may crumble from... surely you have enough intelligence to grasp this concept? Because you would hate it... everyone else must... and if they don't they're psychopathic or weak-minded?
I'm actually enjoying my time there so far, i'm learning greek at a fast rate, met loads of new friends, i'm never been in better shape i've and fired my gun quite a few times too (something i've always wanted to do) ... who are you to say what i'm gaining from it and what i'm not, you don't know anything about me. I don't want to carry on arguing with you but i'm just trying to ascertain whether you just hate the idea of the army so much it's clouding your judgement on this, or if you're actually just a retard

[shahmaran]

Easiest way to avoid the commitment to one's country (Cyprus in particular) is to run like a rabbit before you reach the age of service and make your home in a foreign land (where you can avoid conscription by relying on your 'Cypriotness) and, after many years of dodging the issues, return to the country you were so reluctant to offer your service to, spouting about how great life has been living among the people of the nation that destroyed your own.

As a bonus, you COULD assume the position of one who dearly loves Cyprus and become a vociferous advocate of what it's future should be, such a stance would require a certain amount of 'Thick Skin' and an underlying wish that nobody would notice, providing you were LOUD enough in your campaign for capitulation to the aforesaid nation.

Personally, I think a pusillanmous old 'Draft Dodger' should keep his head down a bit, after all, at the very least one's self respect must surely be in peril if the 'Head' (or written protest/opinion/insult) should appear over the political trenches................... tut, tut.

There is being forced to do it and having to just ride it through with minimal damage, and there is actually believing that it will do you good!

2 totally different mindsets!

But here we are dealing with a 3rd mindset............ one which reasons that by running away from the responsibility of serving one's country and taking refuge in the land which was instrumental in destroying one's own homeland, is an acceptable route for a young man to follow.

You are talking from 1 perspective alone, nothing different to what anyone else from that side would say.

Having lost family in the conflict which that side stared, the first thing I should do, would be to join the army to get revenge, and that is exactly what the army thrives on.

[shahmaran]

There is being forced to do it and having to just ride it through with minimal damage, and there is actually believing that it will do you good!

2 totally different mindsets!

But it's all subjective, what might be good for one person might not be for someone else... an experience one may gain from, another may crumble from... surely you have enough intelligence to grasp this concept? Because you would hate it... everyone else must... and if they don't they're psychopathic or weak-minded?
I'm actually enjoying my time there so far, i'm learning greek at a fast rate, met loads of new friends, i'm never been in better shape i've and fired my gun quite a few times too (something i've always wanted to do) ... who are you to say what i'm gaining from it and what i'm not, you don't know anything about me. I don't want to carry on arguing with you but i'm just trying to ascertain whether you just hate the idea of the army so much it's clouding your judgement on this, or if you're actually just a retard

I do not care who you are nor where you are from!

I have done my services, I know the mentality of the army which is one all around the world.

Anyone who succumbs to it as something superior which they cant grasp, but believe they must accept, or see it as a source of pleasure of any sort, is fucked up!

I am sorry.

On the other hand, you might just see it as an opportunity to get phisiclly fit, as something you have to get over and done with, don't get me wrong, it is compulsory on this side too, you might have the ability to think "beyond the army", that I do not know.

I can just hope that's the way it is, but many are not...