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[alex_ruffneck]

I am saying being forced to serve, is a violation of human rights.

You would, but that is only because you are a fucking racist nationalist scum, very likely to be an ex EOKA-B, if not, definitely a sympathizer.

It would take a mentality as low as yours, in order for anyone to be comfortable in a place like the army, also blind enough to think that you are actually doing something good.

Herd mentality, is what its also called, if you want to go get Freudian.

However there are exceptions.

There are also people who are smart enough to be aware of all this, yet still go through with it.

They are also known as Psychopaths. The ability to act normal while lacking morality and most importantly, empathy!

You would probably fit in the latter, but since I don't know you as a person I cant say for sure, you could just be an old moron too

I find all your views interesting on this, i'm currently going through national service, and i seriously think it's a good thing, and if it was enforced in england, the country would be a better place. My situation is different to most 18 year-old cypriots in that i'm 24, and only serving 6 months, but i still feel it's an experience that you learn a lot from.
Whilst it is hard work and often seems like pointless time-wasting, that's all part of the process of militarising you, and i feel in the end you will become a better person because of it. My relatives are all intelligent, decent people; they all served their time, hated it at the time, but now looking back they realise it was part of their transition into adulthood, and they all learnt a lot and made good friends whilst there.
I guess what i'm saying is, i'm smart enough to be aware of what's going on, and i'm still going through it... does that make me a psychopath? i don't think so. I feel proud to be serving the island i intend to live on for the next however many years, and i'm learning as much from the experience as possible.

Dude, if you think you become a better person by going through brainwash and rebuilding of personality, you probably are better off...

Nightmare!

Rebuilding of my personality? I don't think so, i'm far too strong-minded to have it re-built. Like i said, it never did any of my relatives any harm, are they all brainwashed? No. They are happy people who are fully aware of why they went through what they did it, why they were made to behave the way they did etc

You sound like the whiney people who run to the psychiatrist crying

[bill cobbett]

Can just say that our experience with young Master Cobbett is that the lady officers at the NG Office in Larnaca are really nice and helpful.

All you need is your passport and air tickets... fill in the form (it's in English) and they'll give you the exit permit. Takes 10 minutes.

[shahmaran]

I take you're point. You're right. No exemptions. Blanket ban. Let's get this thing sorted, once and for all.

[shahmaran]

I am saying being forced to serve, is a violation of human rights.

You would, but that is only because you are a fucking racist nationalist scum, very likely to be an ex EOKA-B, if not, definitely a sympathizer.

It would take a mentality as low as yours, in order for anyone to be comfortable in a place like the army, also blind enough to think that you are actually doing something good.

Herd mentality, is what its also called, if you want to go get Freudian.

However there are exceptions.

There are also people who are smart enough to be aware of all this, yet still go through with it.

They are also known as Psychopaths. The ability to act normal while lacking morality and most importantly, empathy!

You would probably fit in the latter, but since I don't know you as a person I cant say for sure, you could just be an old moron too

I find all your views interesting on this, i'm currently going through national service, and i seriously think it's a good thing, and if it was enforced in england, the country would be a better place. My situation is different to most 18 year-old cypriots in that i'm 24, and only serving 6 months, but i still feel it's an experience that you learn a lot from.
Whilst it is hard work and often seems like pointless time-wasting, that's all part of the process of militarising you, and i feel in the end you will become a better person because of it. My relatives are all intelligent, decent people; they all served their time, hated it at the time, but now looking back they realise it was part of their transition into adulthood, and they all learnt a lot and made good friends whilst there.
I guess what i'm saying is, i'm smart enough to be aware of what's going on, and i'm still going through it... does that make me a psychopath? i don't think so. I feel proud to be serving the island i intend to live on for the next however many years, and i'm learning as much from the experience as possible.

Dude, if you think you become a better person by going through brainwash and rebuilding of personality, you probably are better off...

Nightmare!

Rebuilding of my personality? I don't think so, i'm far too strong-minded to have it re-built. Like i said, it never did any of my relatives any harm, are they all brainwashed? No. They are happy people who are fully aware of why they went through what they did it, why they were made to behave the way they did etc

You sound like the whiney people who run to the psychiatrist crying

Whatever dude!

Go to the army and serve your country then!

Strong minded, yet you believe the army will make you a better person.

Does not sound very strong to me tbh

[Malapapa]

Is EU going to fund a professional army in Cyprus or bring its own troops to defend the borders of our country?
For the time being there is no common defense for EU and each country has to arrange its own defense separately. Therefore EU is not in the position to give directives on this issue.

How exactly are those teenagers insulted by being told they have to serve in the army? Every Greek Cypriot male has to serve.

Great to see you are still not giving a shit about human rights

Are you saying that serving in the army is a violation of human rights?

I served in the army for 26 months and I do not see this as a violation of my human rights, but as a duty to my country to help protect it from those criminals like you who want to violate our human rights.

This is fair enough. But the issue here is young non-Cypriot nationals, who happen to have a 'Greek Cypriot' sounding name, being singled out at the airport. It is senseless and discriminatory.

Don't worry, you're safe with your Turkish name ...

I don't have a Turkish name, you stupid bitch.

Oh dear. Perhaps you can change it just to be on the safe side. You don't want to be insulted by being mistaken for a GC!

Don't be so obtuse. This isn't about insult, it's about discrimination.

Four friends visit Cyprus on holiday.

George Markou, 18, paternal grandfather Cypriot-born, but all other grand parents English, is stopped at the airport to do his national service because of his name.

Meanwhile his friend, David Smith, 18, maternal grandparents both Cypriot born, paternal grand father English, paternal grandmother Cypriot born, isn't stopped.

Their friend, Robert Kocharian, 18, Cypriot-born but his Armenian parents moved to the UK, isn't stopped.

Their friend, Joseph Tarabay, 18 Cypriot-born but his Maronite parents moved to the UK, isn't stopped.

[alex_ruffneck]

Whatever dude!

Go to the army and serve your country then!

Strong minded, yet you believe the army will make you a better person.

Does not sound very strong to me tbh

Experiences like this will be what you make of them, i've done enough academic learning in the last five years, now i'm learning what i can from this experience. If that makes me weak minded in your eyes... i think i can live with that

[Malapapa]

Can just say that our experience with young Master Cobbett is that the lady officers at the NG Office in Larnaca are really nice and helpful.

All you need is your passport and air tickets... fill in the form (it's in English) and they'll give you the exit permit. Takes 10 minutes.

The prodigal son returns to CF from the Republic of Facebook! You'll need to show your passport before entry, Mr cobbett... and we're not fooled by the non-Cypriot name. You will of course be required to spend six months national service, combatting all VP's nonsense.

[shahmaran]

Is EU going to fund a professional army in Cyprus or bring its own troops to defend the borders of our country?
For the time being there is no common defense for EU and each country has to arrange its own defense separately. Therefore EU is not in the position to give directives on this issue.

How exactly are those teenagers insulted by being told they have to serve in the army? Every Greek Cypriot male has to serve.

Great to see you are still not giving a shit about human rights

Are you saying that serving in the army is a violation of human rights?

I served in the army for 26 months and I do not see this as a violation of my human rights, but as a duty to my country to help protect it from those criminals like you who want to violate our human rights.

This is fair enough. But the issue here is young non-Cypriot nationals, who happen to have a 'Greek Cypriot' sounding name, being singled out at the airport. It is senseless and discriminatory.

Don't worry, you're safe with your Turkish name ...

I don't have a Turkish name, you stupid bitch.

Oh dear. Perhaps you can change it just to be on the safe side. You don't want to be insulted by being mistaken for a GC!

Don't be so obtuse. This isn't about insult, it's about discrimination.

Four friends visit Cyprus on holiday.

George Markou, 18, paternal grandfather Cypriot-born, but all other grand parents English, is stopped at the airport to do his national service because of his name.

Meanwhile his friend, David Smith, 18, maternal grandparents both Cypriot born, paternal grand father English, paternal grandmother Cypriot born, isn't stopped.

Their friend, Robert Kocharian, 18, Cypriot-born but his Armenian parents moved to the UK, isn't stopped.

Their friend, Joseph Tarabay, 18 Cypriot-born but his Maronite parents moved to the UK, isn't stopped.

Ahhh!!

The infamous citizenship system of the RoC!

As racist and discriminative as her past, I knew the whole thing would be opposed one day, but to be honest, I never saw it coming from the military perspective, and to its own people too!!

Oh the irony!

[Malapapa]

As I understand, the RoC constitution, including the citizenship system, was imposed on the island's people by foreign imperialists.

[bill cobbett]

Can just say that our experience with young Master Cobbett is that the lady officers at the NG Office in Larnaca are really nice and helpful.

All you need is your passport and air tickets... fill in the form (it's in English) and they'll give you the exit permit. Takes 10 minutes.

The prodigal son returns to CF from the Republic of Facebook! You'll need to show your passport before entry, Mr cobbett... and we're not fooled by the non-Cypriot name. You will of course be required to spend six months national service, combatting all VP's nonsense.

Apolowogies to fellow forumers for being tied up in "Other Business" "elsewhere" for the past few days, may have some really, really exciting news for all in a few days time.

Apolowogies also to the Good People of the Free Areas for not serving on the cease-fire line, cos by accidents of birth-date and birth-place have never been bound to serve under the Laws of The Republic.

.... and don't like violence... and faint at the sight of blood (esp my own)... and am too soft and cuddly.... and don'y like guns (naughty, noisy things).