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[shahmaran]

Why do non speaking Greek Cypriot teenagers with Greek Cypriot names,have to be insulted at the new Larnaca Airport,and told they have to serve in the Army,if they have no release paper work with them? Holidays are disturbed and have to go to Larnaca,to sort out the matter,otherwise the teenager will not be allowed a flight off the Island.
Where is the European Union to directive for this matter?

This is discriminatory and I'd like an argument with anyone who disagrees.

No takers? Representatives of the Cypriot state have shown themselves to be confused, illogical yellow-bellied chickens when it comes to addressing this anomalous situation. The same yellow-bellied chickens that, at the same time, don't dare arrest trespassers entering Cyprus through illegal ports of entry, as a matter of course.

That would be pretty though to execute, considering the amount of tourists visiting us, which would probably equal to the total population of the South in a pretty short time

Indeed. These criminals might think twice about visiting Turkey's illegitimate regime through an illegal port of entry if they thought the law would be enforced. Look how speed cameras in the UK have deterred people from driving too fast.

No brother you tottally missed my point.

I am saying it would be impossible to prosecute everyone who vissits the North.

How would you do it?

Even if it was possible, it would only include EU citizens or people who travel there.

No one can take such desperate measures, you can't take the freedom of travel away from people, you thought you could back in the 50's, but now the world won't stand for that crap no more

Not everyone has to share your view about the Cyprus conflict, obviously that is not possible

[Malapapa]

No brother you tottally missed my point.

I am saying it would be impossible to prosecute everyone who vissits the North.

How would you do it?

Even if it was possible, it would only include EU citizens or people who travel there.

Issue warnings. Make an example of all who don't heed these warnings, I say. Cyprus needs to show some cojones. Like how Apostolides did to the Orams.

No one can take such desperate measures, you can't take the freedom of travel away from people, you thought you could back in the 50's, but now the world won't stand for that crap no more

Not everyone has to share your view about the Cyprus conflict, obviously that is not possible

This isn't about views. This is about law enforcement.

[shahmaran]

Is EU going to fund a professional army in Cyprus or bring its own troops to defend the borders of our country?
For the time being there is no common defense for EU and each country has to arrange its own defense separately. Therefore EU is not in the position to give directives on this issue.

How exactly are those teenagers insulted by being told they have to serve in the army? Every Greek Cypriot male has to serve.

Great to see you are still not giving a shit about human rights

Are you saying that serving in the army is a violation of human rights?

I served in the army for 26 months and I do not see this as a violation of my human rights, but as a duty to my country to help protect it from those criminals like you who want to violate our human rights.

I am saying being forced to serve, is a violation of human rights.

You would, but that is only because you are a fucking racist nationalist scum, very likely to be an ex EOKA-B, if not, definitely a sympathizer.

It would take a mentality as low as yours, in order for anyone to be comfortable in a place like the army, also blind enough to think that you are actually doing something good.

Herd mentality, is what its also called, if you want to go get Freudian.

However there are exceptions.

There are also people who are smart enough to be aware of all this, yet still go through with it.

They are also known as Psychopaths. The ability to act normal while lacking morality and most importantly, empathy!

You would probably fit in the latter, but since I don't know you as a person I cant say for sure, you could just be an old moron too

[shahmaran]

No brother you tottally missed my point.

I am saying it would be impossible to prosecute everyone who vissits the North.

How would you do it?

Even if it was possible, it would only include EU citizens or people who travel there.

Issue warnings. Make an example of all who don't heed these warnings, I say. Cyprus needs to show some cojones. Like how Apostolides did to the Orams.

No one can take such desperate measures, you can't take the freedom of travel away from people, you thought you could back in the 50's, but now the world won't stand for that crap no more

Not everyone has to share your view about the Cyprus conflict, obviously that is not possible

This isn't about views. This is about law enforcement.

This is the most preposterous suggestion I heard on CF for some time.

You used to come across as an intelligent person.

What you suggesting is that, if I come home from the nearest airport to my house, I should get prosecuted, because some GC's on the other side will feel that law is being enforced!

[Oracle]

Is EU going to fund a professional army in Cyprus or bring its own troops to defend the borders of our country?
For the time being there is no common defense for EU and each country has to arrange its own defense separately. Therefore EU is not in the position to give directives on this issue.

How exactly are those teenagers insulted by being told they have to serve in the army? Every Greek Cypriot male has to serve.

Great to see you are still not giving a shit about human rights

Are you saying that serving in the army is a violation of human rights?

I served in the army for 26 months and I do not see this as a violation of my human rights, but as a duty to my country to help protect it from those criminals like you who want to violate our human rights.

This is fair enough. But the issue here is young non-Cypriot nationals, who happen to have a 'Greek Cypriot' sounding name, being singled out at the airport. It is senseless and discriminatory.

Don't worry, you're safe with your Turkish name ...

I don't have a Turkish name, you stupid bitch.

Oh dear. Perhaps you can change it just to be on the safe side. You don't want to be insulted by being mistaken for a GC!

[alex_ruffneck]

I am saying being forced to serve, is a violation of human rights.

You would, but that is only because you are a fucking racist nationalist scum, very likely to be an ex EOKA-B, if not, definitely a sympathizer.

It would take a mentality as low as yours, in order for anyone to be comfortable in a place like the army, also blind enough to think that you are actually doing something good.

Herd mentality, is what its also called, if you want to go get Freudian.

However there are exceptions.

There are also people who are smart enough to be aware of all this, yet still go through with it.

They are also known as Psychopaths. The ability to act normal while lacking morality and most importantly, empathy!

You would probably fit in the latter, but since I don't know you as a person I cant say for sure, you could just be an old moron too

I find all your views interesting on this, i'm currently going through national service, and i seriously think it's a good thing, and if it was enforced in england, the country would be a better place. My situation is different to most 18 year-old cypriots in that i'm 24, and only serving 6 months, but i still feel it's an experience that you learn a lot from.
Whilst it is hard work and often seems like pointless time-wasting, that's all part of the process of militarising you, and i feel in the end you will become a better person because of it. My relatives are all intelligent, decent people; they all served their time, hated it at the time, but now looking back they realise it was part of their transition into adulthood, and they all learnt a lot and made good friends whilst there.
I guess what i'm saying is, i'm smart enough to be aware of what's going on, and i'm still going through it... does that make me a psychopath? i don't think so. I feel proud to be serving the island i intend to live on for the next however many years, and i'm learning as much from the experience as possible.

[shahmaran]

I am saying being forced to serve, is a violation of human rights.

You would, but that is only because you are a fucking racist nationalist scum, very likely to be an ex EOKA-B, if not, definitely a sympathizer.

It would take a mentality as low as yours, in order for anyone to be comfortable in a place like the army, also blind enough to think that you are actually doing something good.

Herd mentality, is what its also called, if you want to go get Freudian.

However there are exceptions.

There are also people who are smart enough to be aware of all this, yet still go through with it.

They are also known as Psychopaths. The ability to act normal while lacking morality and most importantly, empathy!

You would probably fit in the latter, but since I don't know you as a person I cant say for sure, you could just be an old moron too

I find all your views interesting on this, i'm currently going through national service, and i seriously think it's a good thing, and if it was enforced in england, the country would be a better place. My situation is different to most 18 year-old cypriots in that i'm 24, and only serving 6 months, but i still feel it's an experience that you learn a lot from.
Whilst it is hard work and often seems like pointless time-wasting, that's all part of the process of militarising you, and i feel in the end you will become a better person because of it. My relatives are all intelligent, decent people; they all served their time, hated it at the time, but now looking back they realise it was part of their transition into adulthood, and they all learnt a lot and made good friends whilst there.
I guess what i'm saying is, i'm smart enough to be aware of what's going on, and i'm still going through it... does that make me a psychopath? i don't think so. I feel proud to be serving the island i intend to live on for the next however many years, and i'm learning as much from the experience as possible.

Dude, if you think you become a better person by going through brainwash and rebuilding of personality, you probably are better off...

Nightmare!

[Malapapa]

No brother you tottally missed my point.

I am saying it would be impossible to prosecute everyone who vissits the North.

How would you do it?

Even if it was possible, it would only include EU citizens or people who travel there.

Issue warnings. Make an example of all who don't heed these warnings, I say. Cyprus needs to show some cojones. Like how Apostolides did to the Orams.

No one can take such desperate measures, you can't take the freedom of travel away from people, you thought you could back in the 50's, but now the world won't stand for that crap no more

Not everyone has to share your view about the Cyprus conflict, obviously that is not possible

This isn't about views. This is about law enforcement.

This is the most preposterous suggestion I heard on CF for some time.

You used to come across as an intelligent person.

Thanks.

What you suggesting is that, if I come home from the nearest airport to my house, I should get prosecuted, because some GC's on the other side will feel that law is being enforced!

Cypriot nationals may or may not be deemed exempt, for a limited period perhaps, if it's considered politically expedient to do so.

[shahmaran]

No brother you tottally missed my point.

I am saying it would be impossible to prosecute everyone who vissits the North.

How would you do it?

Even if it was possible, it would only include EU citizens or people who travel there.

Issue warnings. Make an example of all who don't heed these warnings, I say. Cyprus needs to show some cojones. Like how Apostolides did to the Orams.

No one can take such desperate measures, you can't take the freedom of travel away from people, you thought you could back in the 50's, but now the world won't stand for that crap no more

Not everyone has to share your view about the Cyprus conflict, obviously that is not possible

This isn't about views. This is about law enforcement.

This is the most preposterous suggestion I heard on CF for some time.

You used to come across as an intelligent person.

Thanks.

What you suggesting is that, if I come home from the nearest airport to my house, I should get prosecuted, because some GC's on the other side will feel that law is being enforced!

Cypriot nationals may or may not be deemed exempt, for a limited period perhaps, if it's considered politically expedient to do so.

What about friends, relatives living abroad?

People who do not have a RoC passport will have to get a EU visa etc. etc.

I think you are asking for too much, coming from half an island, recently joined the EU.

Cyprus is not THAT important, to anyone.

[Malapapa]

I take you're point. You're right. No exemptions. Blanket ban. Let's get this thing sorted, once and for all.