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The objective of Kissinger and the Greek Shenanigans...

Postby insan » Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:28 pm

Amb. Ellsworth: One is scheduled to offload at Pireus, Athens' port, on Saturday. It is carrying cargo for both the Greeks and the Turks. What worries me is that the Greeks might pull the same thing they did before, grab the stuff headed for Turkey.

Gen. Brown: What's the name of that ship?

Amb. Ellsworth: The Lash Espana. We can tell them to proceed on course but to check with us before they go into Pireus.

Secretary Kissinger: Tell them not to stop unless they receive orders from here.

Gen. Brown: I have an outgoing message here that says that under the direction of the Secretary of State, they are not to go into Athens or Ankara, but to be held where they are.

Secretary Kissinger: That is total nonsense. I want them to keep going as if nothing is happening. I don't want to escalate this thing into a big deal. Our object is to keep NATO together and to keep peace between the two parties.

(to Mr. Sisco) What about General Brown's information? Who is it in State that told the military not to offload the cargo?

Gen. Brown: My information is from J–4, which is working with your office (to Mr. Ellsworth).

Mr. Jordan: I was told that we were told by State to do this.

Secretary Kissinger: (to Mr. Sisco) Find the guy who did this. I want to know who did this. Tell the Greeks that the ship is coming in, and ask them if we can get their assurance that it will not be tampered with. Can you still split the cargo?

http://history.state.gov/historicaldocu ... 76v30/d131
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Postby insan » Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:00 pm

Ambassador Dimitriou: (To MAKARIOS) Are you satisfied?

Archbishop MAKARIOS: I didn't get a clear answer.

The Secretary: Frankly, I can't say. I had to study your 1960 Constitution. I didn't know anything about it. Let me say we are in favor of independence. We are not in favor of partition. We are in favor of a solution agreeable to all three parties.

[Secretary interrupted meeting to take a call outside.]33. Kissinger spoke with Stabler at 5:47 p.m. (Library of Congress, Manuscript Division, Kissinger Papers, Box 384, Telephone Conversations, Chronological File) Brackets in the original.

The Secretary: (Continuing) We will play an increasingly constructive role. We cannot take a public position now that we are bringing pressure on anybody. That may change later. If you look at the Middle East negotiations you will see that we did not pressure the parties publicly. That is not in anybody's interest.

The Secretary: I will say we had good talks. As negotiations continue we will play an increasingly constructive role. That we seek a solution within the context of the independence, sovereignty of Cyprus and its Constitutional arrangements. You should speak first. I'll calibrate mine from what you say.

Archbishop MAKARIOS: In case of a very urgent situation may I call you on the telephone?

The Secretary: Yes. You are free to call me.

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Postby Nikitas » Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:42 pm

"We are not in favor of partition."

Cross reference this with George Ball's comment to major Packard: "the game here is partition" ten years earlier.

We are being played each way as they say in betting shops.
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Postby insan » Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:28 pm

Nikitas wrote:"We are not in favor of partition."

Cross reference this with George Ball's comment to major Packard: "the game here is partition" ten years earlier.

We are being played each way as they say in betting shops.


Their primary objective had officially become the partition only once and all concerned parties knew it; had been discussed, modified but hadn't been able to make it acceptable to all concerned parties... everyone knew they were negotiating on Acheson Partition plan, except M Packard and Nikitas...
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:47 pm

The Acheson plan had a detail which many forget, the ceding of Greek territory in the Aegean to Turkey, and Greece had rejected it. Turkey did not like it much either since it left the majority of TCs spread all over the island and under GC admistration.
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