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[Malapapa]

Ok Fuckwitt !!! lol MWAH X

They harrass and detain teenage holidaymakers, with Cypriot ancestry, for not having an exit visa, yet let outlaws like you fly in-and-out of the island through illegal points of entry, no problem. No wonder you're laughing.

Who wants them? Are they good for anything?

According to Cyprus's prisons department...

...prisoners are encouraged, under the supervision and instructions of trainers, to improve the level of their vocational training by working as cooks, tailors, carpenters, electricians, bookbinders, barbers, gardeners, mechanics and also at the prison farm.

http://www.cyprus.gov.cy/portal/portal. ... #_Section2

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So Mala stalemate is the name of the game, the chasm is to wide to bridge so its begs the question Whats the point? in 2011 there will be no talks and each side will go there own way.

i think its funny that greece and turkey are the only stupid ones to fight over such a tiny island and what to do with it.. and how alike yet so different we are and we cant even agree on a solution, we are more alike thens ome would like to admit. our language we use so many words. ok maybe not the religion but the tc/gc are the same in thinking and acting

We want different things, you want to dominate we want to be equal partners, the chasm is just to wide thats when you accept the facts and agree to move apart.

are you sure about that?

remind me what was one of turkeys proposals and they where saying how generous they where being ? let me remind you..

they said two states they get a president and then a vice president in the south a rotating presidency and then we get nothing in the north and they use all the resources in the south again us nothing in the north.. how is this equal partnership?!?!?!

how is this equal partnership the turks trying to tell us what to do with cyprus? its more like shut up we are doing what we want with cyprus and pretending its "equal" its far from equal what tcs and turkey wants.

and if you cant live together then you go to turkey? please dont say and you go home to greece because we want to re unite and you want walls and to be turkish instead of cypriot with your fellow cypriots. so if you want turkey and to be turkish what are you all doing in cyprus?

the trnc will never be a recognised state, until the day turkey refuses to hold you up any more and you go bankrupt and have to tear down the walls

Where do you get your information? must be GC sources because we do not read or hearing anaything of what you are claiming.

We are not going anywhere when will you get that into your head and we want to share this island equally but not under gc dominination. The federal level will take decisions that will effect the 2 states north and south and we will be allowed to administer our states individually allowing everyone to settle where they wish and to live under which administration they wish.

[paliometoxo]

So Mala stalemate is the name of the game, the chasm is to wide to bridge so its begs the question Whats the point? in 2011 there will be no talks and each side will go there own way.

i think its funny that greece and turkey are the only stupid ones to fight over such a tiny island and what to do with it.. and how alike yet so different we are and we cant even agree on a solution, we are more alike thens ome would like to admit. our language we use so many words. ok maybe not the religion but the tc/gc are the same in thinking and acting

We want different things, you want to dominate we want to be equal partners, the chasm is just to wide thats when you accept the facts and agree to move apart.

are you sure about that?

remind me what was one of turkeys proposals and they where saying how generous they where being ? let me remind you..

they said two states they get a president and then a vice president in the south a rotating presidency and then we get nothing in the north and they use all the resources in the south again us nothing in the north.. how is this equal partnership?!?!?!

how is this equal partnership the turks trying to tell us what to do with cyprus? its more like shut up we are doing what we want with cyprus and pretending its "equal" its far from equal what tcs and turkey wants.

and if you cant live together then you go to turkey? please dont say and you go home to greece because we want to re unite and you want walls and to be turkish instead of cypriot with your fellow cypriots. so if you want turkey and to be turkish what are you all doing in cyprus?

the trnc will never be a recognised state, until the day turkey refuses to hold you up any more and you go bankrupt and have to tear down the walls

Where do you get your information? must be GC sources because we do not read or hearing anaything of what you are claiming.

We are not going anywhere when will you get that into your head and we want to share this island equally but not under gc dominination. The federal level will take decisions that will effect the 2 states north and south and we will be allowed to administer our states individually allowing everyone to settle where they wish and to live under which administration they wish.

it was a post in the cy prob section. i forget which one but i remember what it said.. and i would not put it passed turkey to demand such things.

its not just us that has to change our heads its the tcs also. your talking like everything is the gcs fault that we have to change and run after the tcs and give into your demands and screw ours... you talk of equality and partnership in cyprus but you really mean as long as tcs get what they want screw the gcs:/

both tcs and gcs must change heads.. firstly the tcs must realise that two states will never happen there will never be an official trnc. there is no state in the north just 40 thousand army soldiers with guns and holding cyprus hostage by force. thats not a state.

people should be able to move where they wish but turkey does not allow those of us who had lost land to the turks to go back home where as tcs already live in the south. tcs already use crossing every year and refuse to allow gcs to cross.. its all one way for the turks take take and take and then all this talk of equality... its rubbish

one state and people must be allowed the right to go home. a basic human right which turkey denies us.

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paliometoxo

it was a post in the cy prob section. i forget which one but i remember what it said.. and i would not put it passed turkey to demand such things.

You have to get your facts right before you accuse people, Turkey supports a 2 state solution under a BBF umbrell just like the UN and EU plus the amjority of the world except yourselves,isnt it time you registered this or is your leader lieing when he also states that he to supports a BBF?

its not just us that has to change our heads its the tcs also. your talking like everything is the gcs fault that we have to change and run after the tcs and give into your demands and screw ours... you talk of equality and partnership in cyprus but you really mean as long as tcs get what they want screw the gcs:/

Where are we saying this? we want a BBF with political equality where everyone has the freedom to live where ever they wish be it a GC or TC administration, do you understand this?

both tcs and gcs must change heads.. firstly the tcs must realise that two states will never happen there will never be an official trnc. there is no state in the north just 40 thousand army soldiers with guns and holding cyprus hostage by force. thats not a state.

The TA will leave if we reach an agreement, why are you so afraid of a 2 state solution under a BBF? the alternative is TCs becoming a minority in a GC state which is what we have always fought against, we cannot go backwards and expose ourselves to this risk.

people should be able to move where they wish but turkey does not allow those of us who had lost land to the turks to go back home where as tcs already live in the south. tcs already use crossing every year and refuse to allow gcs to cross.. its all one way for the turks take take and take and then all this talk of equality... its rubbish

Once an agreement has been reached everyone will be able to move where they wish and Turkey will leave. GCs cross into the north everyday they can rent accomadation and reside here if they wish we see them driving around all the time so you either do not know the truth or you are ill informed or lieing.

You have stolen and used our recognition to the full to get rich, do you ever think about that? if you dont you should because is more valuable than anything we have utilized but the one thing we value more than anything is not being dominated by GCs or having to be second class citizens in a GC run state.

one state and people must be allowed the right to go home. a basic human right which turkey denies us.

Please detail how you see what you want and how TCs will fit into the structure, what security will be provided and who will guarantee we do not get brushed to one side politcally?

[paliometoxo]

hi vp lets see..

You have to get your facts right before you accuse people, Turkey supports a 2 state solution under a BBF umbrell just like the UN and EU plus the amjority of the world except yourselves,isnt it time you registered this or is your leader lieing when he also states that he to supports a BBF?

i know turkey supports a two state solution otherwise they would not be here in cyprus fighting so hard to take our land away and spit in our face.

eu and un support a two state solution? dont you think if they supported such a thing they would of just recognised the trnc decades ago???? and they have announced many times they will never allow two states. so the sooner the tcs get this two states idea out of their heads and realise it wont happen the better.

but your right i cant be sure its 100% true what i read on the post just like any link on the net whoever wrote it you can never be sure its all real.

Where are we saying this? we want a BBF with political equality where everyone has the freedom to live where ever they wish be it a GC or TC administration, do you understand this? [/quote

yes but its not true... well maybe the two states crap is but if i pack my bags tomorrow and come to the trnc would i be allowed to go home and live? lets just say i was a refugee and the turks kicked my family out and into the south? no they cant go home because some tc lives there and has sold it with support from the trnc police and government... thats hardly letting people live where they want. its more like let the tcs live where they want and gcs go to hell...

its not a tc administration its a turkish one no cypriot...you may as well be in turkey.

The TA will leave if we reach an agreement, why are you so afraid of a 2 state solution under a BBF? the alternative is TCs becoming a minority in a GC state which is what we have always fought against, we cannot go backwards and expose ourselves to this risk.

i am all for tc security and making sure the tcs are safe. but why not put your 500,000 new tcs to work and use them as an army? there are plenty of you to protect yourselves you dont need 40 thousand turkish troops. there are more tc males in the north now there would be more then 40 k army, and all males must go for 19 months my tc friend said in the north right?

your a minority in the north as well so if you would rather be a minority for turkey then why does turkey not give you a state in turkey? would turkey let the greek or armenian minority in turkey have any state? or would they spit on them and say its not acceptable. but in cyprus it is?

its not 40 years ago there is no need for this thinking of being a minority in a gc state. forget the G or the T... one cypriot state no minorities. forget turk or greek

[zan]

hi vp lets see..

You have to get your facts right before you accuse people, Turkey supports a 2 state solution under a BBF umbrell just like the UN and EU plus the amjority of the world except yourselves,isnt it time you registered this or is your leader lieing when he also states that he to supports a BBF?

i know turkey supports a two state solution otherwise they would not be here in cyprus fighting so hard to take our land away and spit in our face.

eu and un support a two state solution? dont you think if they supported such a thing they would of just recognised the trnc decades ago???? and they have announced many times they will never allow two states. so the sooner the tcs get this two states idea out of their heads and realise it wont happen the better.

but your right i cant be sure its 100% true what i read on the post just like any link on the net whoever wrote it you can never be sure its all real.

Where are we saying this? we want a BBF with political equality where everyone has the freedom to live where ever they wish be it a GC or TC administration, do you understand this? [/quote

yes but its not true... well maybe the two states crap is but if i pack my bags tomorrow and come to the trnc would i be allowed to go home and live? lets just say i was a refugee and the turks kicked my family out and into the south? no they cant go home because some tc lives there and has sold it with support from the trnc police and government... thats hardly letting people live where they want. its more like let the tcs live where they want and gcs go to hell...

its not a tc administration its a turkish one no cypriot...you may as well be in turkey.

The TA will leave if we reach an agreement, why are you so afraid of a 2 state solution under a BBF? the alternative is TCs becoming a minority in a GC state which is what we have always fought against, we cannot go backwards and expose ourselves to this risk.

i am all for tc security and making sure the tcs are safe. but why not put your 500,000 new tcs to work and use them as an army? there are plenty of you to protect yourselves you dont need 40 thousand turkish troops. there are more tc males in the north now there would be more then 40 k army, and all males must go for 19 months my tc friend said in the north right?

your a minority in the north as well so if you would rather be a minority for turkey then why does turkey not give you a state in turkey? would turkey let the greek or armenian minority in turkey have any state? or would they spit on them and say its not acceptable. but in cyprus it is?

its not 40 years ago there is no need for this thinking of being a minority in a gc state. forget the G or the T... one cypriot state no minorities. forget turk or greek

If you apply you might be told that yo will have to live there for six months and apply for a TRNC citisenship and then wait until a solution is found before you can claim your property??? Have you tried and do yo want to?

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paliometoxo

i know turkey supports a two state solution otherwise they would not be here in cyprus fighting so hard to take our land away and spit in our face.

You are wrong Turkey does not want the TRNC recognized by the world at this stage or should we have gotten recognition a long time ago. It is not in her best interests to have the TRNC recognized so where you get you information from is incorrect and you should not trust that source.

eu and un support a two state solution? dont you think if they supported such a thing they would of just recognised the trnc decades ago???? and they have announced many times they will never allow two states. so the sooner the tcs get this two states idea out of their heads and realise it wont happen the better.

I think we have crossed wires here your 2 state solution is in fact 2 seperate countries whereas we are not saying this if we are to unite, there will be 2 states but they will be seen as one country, the only time we will continue to promote the TRNC as a seperate country is when we are left with no other alternative and talks fail. You have to realize that we will never give into GC demands that will turn us into some minority in a GC state, we need our own area to administer otherwise the current situaiton can continue for ever the sooner this is understood the better for everyone.

yes but its not true... well maybe the two states crap is but if i pack my bags tomorrow and come to the trnc would i be allowed to go home and live? lets just say i was a refugee and the turks kicked my family out and into the south? no they cant go home because some tc lives there and has sold it with support from the trnc police and government... thats hardly letting people live where they want. its more like let the tcs live where they want and gcs go to hell...

Loizdiou can why cant you all you have to do is apply to the IPC and ask for it back in the meantime you are free to cross into the TRNC whenever you wish and even live here for as long as you wish. You just do not want to accept the facts, do you know we have to leave the north and move south for 6 months before we can even apply to your GC courts for our property?

its not a tc administration its a turkish one no cypriot...you may as well be in turkey.

Why you are the ones that claim the TRNC is Turkey so why do we need to move? it will be this way until you or the EU remove the inhumane embargoes, if we were to unite then of course things would change.

i am all for tc security and making sure the tcs are safe. but why not put your 500,000 new tcs to work and use them as an army? there are plenty of you to protect yourselves you dont need 40 thousand turkish troops. there are more tc males in the north now there would be more then 40 k army, and all males must go for 19 months my tc friend said in the north right?

What difference does it make if they are Turks or TCs they are here for our security and until or if ever a solution is found they will remain about time you got used to this idea.

your a minority in the north as well so if you would rather be a minority for turkey then why does turkey not give you a state in turkey? would turkey let the greek or armenian minority in turkey have any state? or would they spit on them and say its not acceptable. but in cyprus it is?

This is preferred to being a minority amongst GCs we keep telling you this but still refuse to register it, why? What Turkeys gives her minorities is her business and what rights those minorites have are their business if they have an agreement like our 1960 agreement then they have every right to claim their own state.

its not 40 years ago there is no need for this thinking of being a minority in a gc state. forget the G or the T... one cypriot state no minorities. forget turk or greek

The "Cypriot" angle is something the GCs are trying to peddle in order to get us to accept their domination over us, we are out numbered so we would not get a look in on any issue but they would hide behind the excuse but we are all Cypriots, where was this idea in 1963? its just to little to late and we will not fall for it. It takes time, compromise and understanding to cultivate such an idea, it cannot be forced or imposed.

[Malapapa]

The "Cypriot" angle is something the GCs are trying to peddle in order to get us to accept their domination over us,

That's funny, because some of the strongest peddlers aren't what you term GCs. What's that all about?

we are out numbered so we would not get a look in on any issue but they would hide behind the excuse but we are all Cypriots, where was this idea in 1963?

I doubt you were even born. So why peddle the 1963 shit? Where were you in 1963?

its just to little to late and we will not fall for it. It takes time, compromise and understanding to cultivate such an idea, it cannot be forced or imposed.

No. Of course it can't. It will be a peace operation. Like 1974.

[zan]

The "Cypriot" angle is something the GCs are trying to peddle in order to get us to accept their domination over us,

That's funny, because some of the strongest peddlers aren't what you term GCs. What's that all about?

Perhaps you will now understand that not all are there for the sake of Cyprus but have other intentions and needs

we are out numbered so we would not get a look in on any issue but they would hide behind the excuse but we are all Cypriots, where was this idea in 1963?

I doubt you were even born. So why peddle the 1963 shit? Where were you in 1963?

So you agree that descendants of refugees have no right to property?

its just to little to late and we will not fall for it. It takes time, compromise and understanding to cultivate such an idea, it cannot be forced or imposed.

No. Of course it can't. It will be a peace operation. Like 1974.

Don't forget to stir up some "inter-communal fighting" before you do....I believe you have a frame work to work from

[Malapapa]

The "Cypriot" angle is something the GCs are trying to peddle in order to get us to accept their domination over us,

That's funny, because some of the strongest peddlers aren't what you term GCs. What's that all about?

Perhaps you will now understand that not all are there for the sake of Cyprus but have other intentions and needs

we are out numbered so we would not get a look in on any issue but they would hide behind the excuse but we are all Cypriots, where was this idea in 1963?

I doubt you were even born. So why peddle the 1963 shit? Where were you in 1963?

So you agree that descendants of refugees have no right to property?

its just to little to late and we will not fall for it. It takes time, compromise and understanding to cultivate such an idea, it cannot be forced or imposed.

No. Of course it can't. It will be a peace operation. Like 1974.

Don't forget to stir up some "inter-communal fighting" before you do....I believe you have a frame work to work from

I'd respond to each as you did, if I knew what the fcuk you were talking about...