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[shahmaran]

Are you saying that the entire GC population should in 2010 continue to pay for the actions that a few criminals carried out in the 60s?? Especially after all that happened and the full knowledge of everyone that Turkey is 5 mins away and will invade again if anyone touches a TC?? Especially after all of Cyprus in EU-land? Do you really imagine such things happening within the EU?

And if you are arguing it's only about your protection and not piracy, then see note above..

We are still paying for it, so should you!

The GC police force spent decades going around terrorizing innocent people, Greece was over to help. Don't give us this rubbish about "Turkey starting" and that "just a few GC's did bad things".

The Serbs spent years murdering Muslims at the heart of the EU, did anyone care? Nope.

EU is not a "force" it's just a union of the rich who have the same taste in wine and want to enjoy it for cheap. They will probably continue enjoying it while you get killed and then they will talk about it...

I fully agree with you- You must protect your side - the bill is still open.

As much as you are trying to protect your illness fears so the outstanding account increased. Live in fear and stuck on your misery state and life.

We don't live in fear, but we don't want to have to trust you either.

After all, as much as you claim to be the "pillar of civilization", when shit starts falling, you have shown that you too can easily become another savage scum

Who told you to trust us? Do not make this mistake again- do not destroy our life again. Leave the Anatolians to destroy only yours from now onward.

How can I live with people I do not trust?

Plus I always took you as a Greek person not a Cypriot, why are you including yourself to a country you are not from, where you have also worked hand in hand with the so called "Anatolians" in destroying lives?

I am not Greek because they told me to be, netheir because Ottomans or others brought me in Cyprus by fishing boats in 14th century. Neither because I am a Greek citizen. I am Greek because i born as such. This is something which i assume you have a difficulty to understand. Saying simply i am a Cypriot this for me means nothing else that i am a victim of British 60's constitution.Means that i am of no Ethnicity (a bastard of the World's communities) This i can not accept, even some of my co patriots hv been convested to do so.


I remind you my friend that Greeks are not creared in 24hrs by the help of Kurds and other Anatolians with the great help (finally) of the known allies in 1922. This is a big difference to feel and say that you are Greek and to be a Turk. Turk based on what? Several hundreds of Anatolians families (the most famous this of Osman) under the panishment,genosides, of the famous Attaturk decided to name themselves Turks. This just 100 hundred year ago!!!This for me is not an Ethnicity is just a result of policies and can not create certain culture in so short time. Take the actual life/culture in Turkey- Compare population in West Turkey (excluding newcomers from Anatolia-these you should fear more than the G/cs) and the rest of the country.

Based on your assumption, it is fair to say that there is no such a thing as Australian, American nor New Zelander etc.

There is only UK.

But the one can also say "oh but the Anglo Saxons..." then what do you say?

Greeks are probably the only people on Earth who still so vigorously claim to be a "nation state" even after we ruled you for 500 years, it is absolutely ridiculous! You are nothing as a nation, other nations decide what you are!

Nation states are over my friend!

Your knowledge of the Turks seem to be limited to the Greek clique that pretty much starts and ends at "the savages that came from Mongolia".

No peoples history is that simple.

We go back thousands of years, we haven't just landed to Earth 100 years a go, but I can see why that is hard for you to understand if you think the Greeks have created the world. Turks are nation builders, meaning they have NOT created that country by sucking up to the Imperialists, as did some self-righteous idiots who think they are the most important people to walk on Earth!

I hate it when Greeks put so much importance on themselves just for being Greek, but I am probably talking to a god dam gyro shop owner.

[shahmaran]

Are you saying that the entire GC population should in 2010 continue to pay for the actions that a few criminals carried out in the 60s?? Especially after all that happened and the full knowledge of everyone that Turkey is 5 mins away and will invade again if anyone touches a TC?? Especially after all of Cyprus in EU-land? Do you really imagine such things happening within the EU?

And if you are arguing it's only about your protection and not piracy, then see note above..

Don't give us this rubbish about "Turkey starting" and that "just a few GC's did bad things".

You live in a fantasy world.. Turkey had planned what happened from the 50s.. go read statements made from then.. they said clearly that even if there wasn't a single TC in Cyprus, they would still have found an excuse to do what they did.. they used you but you don't even realise.. why did they kill TCs who wouldnt follow TMT? why did TMT plug bombs against TCs and then blame GCs to start fighting? Which was the FIRST intercommunal killing? Give me JUST ONE example of a TC being killed before you slaughtered the 8 GCs in Kondemenos..

After you started the flighting there were a few hundred TCs AND not a much lower number of GCs killed between 63 and 74 (not "decades" as you said!!).. nowhere near the several thousands killed by your mama's army in 74..

And you say you are "paying"!! You killed, raped, stole 37% of our country.. if you don't "trust" us or the EU and prefer to "live alone" I don't give a shit.. but if this what you want then you need to hand back 25% of Cyprus.. because what you OWN is 12% and not an inch more.. Until you either return to legality (the 1960 RoC) or at least return the 25% that you stole, you will be our enemy.

Calm down Tony, I never said "killed" I said "terrorized" read again and read it slowly so you comprehend.

We do not own you shit, you wanted to drag the entire island to Greece, that is why Turkey came, you fucked it for all of us and you also pay by loosing!

That is fair no?

Ottomans gave you everything you have now, and in return you pay by treating the TC's as second class citizens. So you pay.

[paliometoxo]

Whats the alternative? if we cannot agree a solution, where what you want is not what i want?

what your saying is if there is no workable solution we should get what you want.. two states. not in a million years

Well whats the alternative?

as the erogulul sorry i cant spell his name man says this but partition.

its re unified cyprus or nothing

The spelling is Eroğlu.

It appears to be nothing then as we will not capitulate to your demands.

just like we wont to yours. partition is the demand. though we cant re unify the land with out the ok from turkey and the tcs we can stop it from being a recognised state which will have to do for us, and then turkey and tcs lose a lot of money and so does the south

[paliometoxo]

Why do you GCs try to make excuses and not just condemn this "police officer" even complain about his racists actions and that he should be removed from his post. If this is not done these people will just increase and take more agressive action. Its the same with your government offices are these people especially picked trained to be nasty? why do we have to put up with them?

when do you guys ever condem any tc or turk officer for doing anything? he could come and shoot a gc in the face and you would say its ok...

I have stepped in a few times to translate and once telling a police officer off at Ledra st for making an elderly GC lady wait in the heat, if we do not speak out things will never change.

its because of both sides condeming peace like the abuse and crap they are telling me now to tell me i am an idiot and whatever else they tell me. i bet the hard liner tcs are the same to any pro peace tcs

They do question, but do not use the foul language you were subjected to Palio. (apart from Runaway, but he is a foreigner). These people who always attack using foul language are not representative of Cypriots of any colour. They are cyber bullies, thats all. If you can, just ignor them.

I am surprised ADMIN allows this type of bullying; we tried to stop it but we get the usual response. 'If we dont like it we can leave'. I am sure the law regarding cyber bullying is broken on the CF and one day someone will take the matter up with the 'authorities'.

thanks deniz. yes i usually do or reply with something stupid like i love you too lol

well probably admin has better things to do with his and her summer then sit and delete our text ;p

it does not matter ignore is the best way.

its funny i get a better reaction from tcs then my own fellow gcs who shouted abuse and i am stupid and they hope the turks kill me... and my family is stupid with out even knowing my family. they are worse then my father who hopes israel goes to war with the turks and kills them and who does not know how to turn on a pc though but is the same turk hating wish they all die says there is no such thing as tcs as they do and say here..

but any way its just a forum online i dont know any of them in person so it does not matter what they say

your one of few good ones here that every one likes and never takes abuse ;p

[paliometoxo]

@AlanwithoneL the gc officer did exactly the same to me. and the person in front of us they where happy smiley how are you what was the football score. and to me it was like i was not there. and i am not tc.

[denizaksulu]

Why do you GCs try to make excuses and not just condemn this "police officer" even complain about his racists actions and that he should be removed from his post. If this is not done these people will just increase and take more agressive action. Its the same with your government offices are these people especially picked trained to be nasty? why do we have to put up with them?

when do you guys ever condem any tc or turk officer for doing anything? he could come and shoot a gc in the face and you would say its ok...

I have stepped in a few times to translate and once telling a police officer off at Ledra st for making an elderly GC lady wait in the heat, if we do not speak out things will never change.

its because of both sides condeming peace like the abuse and crap they are telling me now to tell me i am an idiot and whatever else they tell me. i bet the hard liner tcs are the same to any pro peace tcs

They do question, but do not use the foul language you were subjected to Palio. (apart from Runaway, but he is a foreigner). These people who always attack using foul language are not representative of Cypriots of any colour. They are cyber bullies, thats all. If you can, just ignor them.

I am surprised ADMIN allows this type of bullying; we tried to stop it but we get the usual response. 'If we dont like it we can leave'. I am sure the law regarding cyber bullying is broken on the CF and one day someone will take the matter up with the 'authorities'.

thanks deniz. yes i usually do or reply with something stupid like i love you too lol

well probably admin has better things to do with his and her summer then sit and delete our text ;p

it does not matter ignore is the best way.

its funny i get a better reaction from tcs then my own fellow gcs who shouted abuse and i am stupid and they hope the turks kill me... and my family is stupid with out even knowing my family. they are worse then my father who hopes israel goes to war with the turks and kills them and who does not know how to turn on a pc though but is the same turk hating wish they all die says there is no such thing as tcs as they do and say here..

but any way its just a forum online i dont know any of them in person so it does not matter what they say

your one of few good ones here that every one likes and never takes abuse ;p

I would not go so far as to say 'everyone' likes me. Only GR and Oracle love me, the others are normal people

[paliometoxo]

are you going to cyprus this year deniz?:)

[shahmaran]

@AlanwithoneL the gc officer did exactly the same to me. and the person in front of us they where happy smiley how are you what was the football score. and to me it was like i was not there. and i am not tc.

I hate your officers!

Once I was threatened by one because I was yelling at the bitch behind the desk who claimed that I was not Cypriot!

Who the hell is she to decide who is Cypriot?!!

Punching both of them in the face and making a run back to my side, would have been a great option, but unfortunately it is not my style.

[paliometoxo]

@AlanwithoneL the gc officer did exactly the same to me. and the person in front of us they where happy smiley how are you what was the football score. and to me it was like i was not there. and i am not tc.

I hate your officers!

Once I was threatened by one because I was yelling at the bitch behind the desk who claimed that I was not Cypriot!

Who the hell is she to decide who is Cypriot?!!

Punching both of them in the face and making a run back to my side, would have been a great option, but unfortunately it is not my style.

threatening you was maybe taking it too far they should of said calm sir there is no need to shout.

so who was this woman telling you that your not cypriot? where did she suddenly come from to tell you what nationality you are. tell her stfu and ignore her lol. punch in the face would of been bad, you miss your flight and have 10 police officers jump on top of you to stop you lol

i had an english woman shout at me once but she could not decide which way to turn and she shouted where are you going? and i said to her in greek to shut up.

[shahmaran]

@AlanwithoneL the gc officer did exactly the same to me. and the person in front of us they where happy smiley how are you what was the football score. and to me it was like i was not there. and i am not tc.

I hate your officers!

Once I was threatened by one because I was yelling at the bitch behind the desk who claimed that I was not Cypriot!

Who the hell is she to decide who is Cypriot?!!

Punching both of them in the face and making a run back to my side, would have been a great option, but unfortunately it is not my style.

threatening you was maybe taking it too far they should of said calm sir there is no need to shout.

so who was this woman telling you that your not cypriot? where did she suddenly come from to tell you what nationality you are. tell her stfu and ignore her lol. punch in the face would of been bad, you miss your flight and have 10 police officers jump on top of you to stop you lol

i had an english woman shout at me once but she could not decide which way to turn and she shouted where are you going? and i said to her in greek to shut up.

She was the woman who at the checkpoint who looks at your papers and tells you if you can go in or not.

I was not catching a flight, my girlfriend lost one of her contact lenses and she couldn't see anything. There was no where to get one on my side at that hour, so I thought I try the other side since I was in the area, so had to go over for an emergency, I wish I had not.

They always insist that I should get the RoC ID but I don't want to, so every time I turn up with my TRNC ID, they feel that they have to give me shit

Plus by the time they get out of their little box, I would already be on my side