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[EPSILON]

The Turks just don't know when to stop ...

http://www.jpost.com/International/Arti ... ?id=185378

My favorite part;

IDF sources said that the navy would intercept the ship if it attempted to reach Gaza, and would operate under the assumption that hostile elements could be aboard.

This is diplomacy at its lowest.

Basically we will shoot and kill anyone who approaches anywhere near our illegal open air prison, regardless if you are armed or not, but we will just call it "defense". You may not be armed but you might be too, so I'll just pretend that you are armed and shoot you anyway because its easier and sends out the right message, is what they are actually saying.

We can ALL watch this happen on TV as well.

This is how fucked international justice is.

I wonder where they learnt such defence tactics from?

I don't remember these people coming over to bring us aid?

Were you there? Which one of the indigenous Cypriots clubbing the guy to death is you?

I love the way you try and force yourself to picture me as a violent nationalist, but just quite cant get there

Is really any of these "heroes" arrested for murder? One of them,i think, became a "minister"? I am sure the most of the "heroes " are holding a ROC's passport today.!!and even some of them treated free of charge in Nicosia Hospital (they must be old by now).

What happened to all the EOKA murderers? They worked on peace time.

These people tried to trespass military zone.

I know what would happen to me if I trespass, that's why I don't.

I am always sorry that people die, but I do not feel much pity for blind idiots who are led to death by their own government for their own political welfare.

What is the difference between these people, and the people who died on Mavi Marmara?

Basis your theory all demostrators in Taksim square in Istanbul must be killed by the police!!!

Secondly -pls do not try to compare the well organized by fanatics, the trip of Navi Marmara (stupid inicent people of course were also participating) with demostrtions of young people in Green line.

nevertheless i repeat the question - is this micky mouse state in North operates an even micky mouse legal department? Is any of these "heroes" arrested? I am sure not - but do not worry a solution will be found in this regard. Personally i do not worry at all.

[shahmaran]

The Turks just don't know when to stop ...

http://www.jpost.com/International/Arti ... ?id=185378

My favorite part;

IDF sources said that the navy would intercept the ship if it attempted to reach Gaza, and would operate under the assumption that hostile elements could be aboard.

This is diplomacy at its lowest.

Basically we will shoot and kill anyone who approaches anywhere near our illegal open air prison, regardless if you are armed or not, but we will just call it "defense". You may not be armed but you might be too, so I'll just pretend that you are armed and shoot you anyway because its easier and sends out the right message, is what they are actually saying.

We can ALL watch this happen on TV as well.

This is how fucked international justice is.

I wonder where they learnt such defence tactics from?

I don't remember these people coming over to bring us aid?

Were you there? Which one of the indigenous Cypriots clubbing the guy to death is you?

I love the way you try and force yourself to picture me as a violent nationalist, but just quite cant get there

Is really any of these "heroes" arrested for murder? One of them,i think, became a "minister"? I am sure the most of the "heroes " are holding a ROC's passport today.!!and even some of them treated free of charge in Nicosia Hospital (they must be old by now).

What happened to all the EOKA murderers? They worked on peace time.

These people tried to trespass military zone.

I know what would happen to me if I trespass, that's why I don't.

I am always sorry that people die, but I do not feel much pity for blind idiots who are led to death by their own government for their own political welfare.

What is the difference between these people, and the people who died on Mavi Marmara?

Basis your theory all demostrators in Taksim square in Istanbul must be killed by the police!!!

Secondly -pls do not try to compare the well organized by fanatics, the trip of Navi Marmara (stupid inicent people of course were also participating) with demostrtions of young people in Green line.

nevertheless i repeat the question - is this micky mouse state in North operates an even micky mouse legal department? Is any of these "heroes" arrested? I am sure not - but do not worry a solution will be found in this regard. Personally i do not worry at all.

Taksim square is not a military zone.

The demostrators on the border were also well organized, we all knew they were coming from well in advance, I was there at the time, were you?

You never answered my question, what happened to the EOKA murderers? The people who massacred everyone in 3 villages?

This is an EU member we are talking about!

[Nikitas]

"what happened to the EOKA murderers? "

The same thing that happened to the TMT guys that carried out the Afania massacre, the Palekythro murders and the horrifying murder of Androulla Christodoulou in Yalousa.

And by the way, it was EOKA B', a whole different organization from EOKA.

[shahmaran]

"what happened to the EOKA murderers? "

The same thing that happened to the TMT guys that carried out the Afania massacre, the Palekythro murders and the horrifying murder of Androulla Christodoulou in Yalousa.

And by the way, it was EOKA B', a whole different organization from EOKA.

You say tomaito I say tomato!

But, no really, what actually happened to them?

[Nikitas]

Some left the island, some returned to the jobs they were doing before, some died. Same thing that happened to the TMT dudes. No one was prosecuted by either side.

[Paphitis]

The Turks just don't know when to stop ...

http://www.jpost.com/International/Arti ... ?id=185378

My favorite part;

IDF sources said that the navy would intercept the ship if it attempted to reach Gaza, and would operate under the assumption that hostile elements could be aboard.

This is diplomacy at its lowest.

Basically we will shoot and kill anyone who approaches anywhere near our illegal open air prison, regardless if you are armed or not, but we will just call it "defense". You may not be armed but you might be too, so I'll just pretend that you are armed and shoot you anyway because its easier and sends out the right message, is what they are actually saying.

We can ALL watch this happen on TV as well.

This is how fucked international justice is.

Shah, you are a bloody idiot mate.

All boarding parties around the world assume that they may encounter hostile and at times, violate elements.

That's why boarding parties in Australia, whether they be the Naval, SAS, Coastguard, Coastwatch, Customs or Feds are armed with real guns with live rounds!

If someone is packing a piece, there is a good chance they will get shot!

[Paphitis]

The Turks just don't know when to stop ...

http://www.jpost.com/International/Arti ... ?id=185378

From your link....

A Lebanese vessel trying to break the blockade of Gaza may set sail from Turkish-controlled northern Cyprus, a move that would further complicate already tense Turkish-Israeli ties, Israeli officials said on Thursday.

Organizers of the ship, whom Israel has linked to Hizbullah, said in Tripoli on Thursday that the ship – carrying women and journalists – would set sail on Sunday from Lebanon, despite warnings that it would not be allowed to use a Cypriot port.

Under Lebanese law the ship cannot travel directly to the Gaza Strip from Lebanon because Beirut is technically at war with Israel, forcing the vessel to pass through a third country – in this case, Cyprus – before heading for the blockaded Palestinian territory.

Since when is "north" Cyprus a country????

Cyprus’s ambassador to Lebanon said that the vessel, the Mariam, would not be allowed to enter a Cypriot port.

“We decided that such a ship will not be allowed to enter Cyprus, and if such a Gazabound ship docks in a Cypriot port the crew and the passengers will be deported to their country of origin,” Kyriacos Kouros said.

Kouros said Cyprus has a “moral and legal responsibility” to those allowed into its waters, and that a blockade-busting ship could endanger lives and “regional peace and stability.”

For this reason, Israeli officials said, the Mariam may try to set sail from a port in northern Cyprus. One official noted the irony of a vessel trying to break the blockade of Gaza leaving from Turkish-occupied northern Cyprus.

But Samar al-Hajj, the organizer of the Mariam, who has been threatening to dispatch it for Gaza since early June, was undeterred on Thursday. She said the ship would set out to deliver cancer medication, books and toys.

“We are not children who can be told to stay home,” Hajj said after a chaotic news conference outside the port in Tripoli, where security forces prevented the group from speaking to the media from the ship.

A Foreign Ministry spokesman in Jerusalem said the so-called “humanitarian” nature of the boat was belied by the organizers’ lack of coordination with either the UN or the Palestinian Authority.

The spokesman said that Israel would stop the vessel from reaching Gaza, and was “prepared for all possibilities.”

IDF sources said that the navy would intercept the ship if it attempted to reach Gaza, and would operate under the assumption that hostile elements could be aboard.

Yaakov Katz and AP contributed to this report.

[Paphitis]

The Turks just don't know when to stop ...

http://www.jpost.com/International/Arti ... ?id=185378

My favorite part;

IDF sources said that the navy would intercept the ship if it attempted to reach Gaza, and would operate under the assumption that hostile elements could be aboard.

This is diplomacy at its lowest.

Basically we will shoot and kill anyone who approaches anywhere near our illegal open air prison, regardless if you are armed or not, but we will just call it "defense". You may not be armed but you might be too, so I'll just pretend that you are armed and shoot you anyway because its easier and sends out the right message, is what they are actually saying.

We can ALL watch this happen on TV as well.

This is how fucked international justice is.

I wonder where they learnt such defence tactics from?

I don't remember these people coming over to bring us aid?

Aid workers don't really come by throwing rocks

I love the bit at the end, about Cyprus being Greek

And aid workers don't stab boarding parties, beat them with sticks and medal rods.

If you behaved in a civilised manner, the IDF would not have shot anyone!!!

[Paphitis]

Erm.. the Israelis have video and the Turks don't?

I seem to recall the IDF confiscated all camera and video footage?

Correct!

They also had their own footage from a news crew aboard one of the Speed Craft that tried to embark as well as the Israeli Naval Infra Red (FLIR).

FLIR is used here as well, and when we were testing our surveillance FLIR inside a building, persons foot prints show up on carpet. It detects very minute changes in temperature. And the lenses can read a car's number plate from 40+ kilometers away and from 30,000FT in the air!

Great stuff!

[Get Real!]

I’ve decided to take Paphitis’ side of the argument so in his defense I hereby present these articles!

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/ne ... bled=false

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/ju ... ts-gunfire

The first link proves that the Israelis were in the IT business and not out to murder!

The second link proves that the Israelis had to use force because the Turks were a hindrance to the Israeli IT business!

I rest my case!