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Postby Oracle » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:40 pm

Hello budding engineers :D

Does anyone have any know-how of maintaining natural tracks in Cyprus? Especially in mountainous regions with springs causing erosion etc.

I hear that crushed-rock gravel laid down in autumn forms a hard concrete-like layer after the first rainfall.

No more tarmac roads in Cyprus!

Let's all work together to keep our roads smelling of herbs instead of molten petroleum products ...

Has anyone built a natural road? :D
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:46 pm

Oracle wrote:Hello budding engineers :D

Does anyone have any know-how of maintaining natural tracks in Cyprus? Especially in mountainous regions with springs causing erosion etc.

I hear that crushed-rock gravel laid down in autumn forms a hard concrete-like layer after the first rainfall.

No more tarmac roads in Cyprus!

Let's all work together to keep our roads smelling of herbs instead of molten petroleum products ...

Has anyone built a natural road? :D



How can it be natural if you build it?


Leave the streams be; in a few million years we will have our own Grand Canyon. :lol:

Why do you have to tamper with nature? WIMIN!! :roll:
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Re: Tending tracks in Cyprus ...

Postby Oracle » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:56 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:Hello budding engineers :D

Does anyone have any know-how of maintaining natural tracks in Cyprus? Especially in mountainous regions with springs causing erosion etc.

I hear that crushed-rock gravel laid down in autumn forms a hard concrete-like layer after the first rainfall.

No more tarmac roads in Cyprus!

Let's all work together to keep our roads smelling of herbs instead of molten petroleum products ...

Has anyone built a natural road? :D



How can it be natural if you build it?


Leave the streams be; in a few million years we will have our own Grand Canyon. :lol:

Why do you have to tamper with nature? WIMIN!! :roll:


I'm talking about ancient tracks. Probably used by goats initially, then donkeys and some people. People are as natural to Cyprus as many other creatures and we need our accesses too. But, these can be done in a minimalist fashion allowing the growth and proliferation of the natural flora and fauna -- herbs and bugs -- if aseptic tarmac is avoided.
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Re: Tending tracks in Cyprus ...

Postby denizaksulu » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:04 am

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:Hello budding engineers :D

Does anyone have any know-how of maintaining natural tracks in Cyprus? Especially in mountainous regions with springs causing erosion etc.

I hear that crushed-rock gravel laid down in autumn forms a hard concrete-like layer after the first rainfall.

No more tarmac roads in Cyprus!

Let's all work together to keep our roads smelling of herbs instead of molten petroleum products ...

Has anyone built a natural road? :D



How can it be natural if you build it?


Leave the streams be; in a few million years we will have our own Grand Canyon. :lol:

Why do you have to tamper with nature? WIMIN!! :roll:


I'm talking about ancient tracks. Probably used by goats initially, then donkeys and some people. People are as natural to Cyprus as many other creatures and we need our accesses too. But, these can be done in a minimalist fashion allowing the growth and proliferation of the natural flora and fauna -- herbs and bugs -- if aseptic tarmac is avoided.



Tarmacking any path must be the rage. Can your local council offer you any help/advice? The NG have nothing to do, they could be put to good use with a guspo. :?
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Postby Schnauzer » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:09 am

Bracken, Branches and other vegetation, overlaid and compacted with gravel and finally spread with the natural soil (or rock powder) will usually produce a sustainable pathway (or road even) providing there is no constant stream flowing across it.

In some cases, it is possible to construct OVER a stream (particularly in dense jungle conditions) providing a very stout base of logs is laid first, thereafter, the same process is effective and may last many many years. :wink:
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Postby Oracle » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:17 am

Schnauzer wrote:Bracken, Branches and other vegetation, overlaid and compacted with gravel and finally spread with the natural soil (or rock powder) will usually produce a sustainable pathway (or road even) providing there is no constant stream flowing across it.

In some cases, it is possible to construct OVER a stream (particularly in dense jungle conditions) providing a very stout base of logs is laid first, thereafter, the same process is effective and may last many many years. :wink:


Logs! I thought we would have to use clay pipes laid according to the cross-flow of run-off water and then compact with gravel -- But, laying logs sounds promising and much more, interestingly, natural! I don't mind constant maintenance (decadely or so) in an effort to avoid tarmac since I hate the smell of its deathly blanket! :D
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Postby CBBB » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:30 am

Oracle wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:Bracken, Branches and other vegetation, overlaid and compacted with gravel and finally spread with the natural soil (or rock powder) will usually produce a sustainable pathway (or road even) providing there is no constant stream flowing across it.

In some cases, it is possible to construct OVER a stream (particularly in dense jungle conditions) providing a very stout base of logs is laid first, thereafter, the same process is effective and may last many many years. :wink:


Logs! I thought we would have to use clay pipes laid according to the cross-flow of run-off water and then compact with gravel -- But, laying logs sounds promising and much more, interestingly, natural! I don't mind constant maintenance (decadely or so) in an effort to avoid tarmac since I hate the smell of its deathly blanket! :D


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Postby Oracle » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:34 am

CBBB wrote:
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Schnauzer wrote:Bracken, Branches and other vegetation, overlaid and compacted with gravel and finally spread with the natural soil (or rock powder) will usually produce a sustainable pathway (or road even) providing there is no constant stream flowing across it.

In some cases, it is possible to construct OVER a stream (particularly in dense jungle conditions) providing a very stout base of logs is laid first, thereafter, the same process is effective and may last many many years. :wink:


Logs! I thought we would have to use clay pipes laid according to the cross-flow of run-off water and then compact with gravel -- But, laying logs sounds promising and much more, interestingly, natural! I don't mind constant maintenance (decadely or so) in an effort to avoid tarmac since I hate the smell of its deathly blanket! :D


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Re: Tending tracks in Cyprus ...

Postby apc2010 » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:36 am

Oracle wrote:Hello budding engineers :D

Does anyone have any know-how of maintaining natural tracks in Cyprus? Especially in mountainous regions with springs causing erosion etc.

I hear that crushed-rock gravel laid down in autumn forms a hard concrete-like layer after the first rainfall.

No more tarmac roads in Cyprus!

Let's all work together to keep our roads smelling of herbs instead of molten petroleum products ...

Has anyone built a natural road? :D


the petroleum products used to fly you and your dogs back and forth each time do not compare to one poxy road............
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Postby Schnauzer » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:38 am

Oracle wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:Bracken, Branches and other vegetation, overlaid and compacted with gravel and finally spread with the natural soil (or rock powder) will usually produce a sustainable pathway (or road even) providing there is no constant stream flowing across it.

In some cases, it is possible to construct OVER a stream (particularly in dense jungle conditions) providing a very stout base of logs is laid first, thereafter, the same process is effective and may last many many years. :wink:


Logs! I thought we would have to use clay pipes laid according to the cross-flow of run-off water and then compact with gravel -- But, laying logs sounds promising and much more, interestingly, natural! I don't mind constant maintenance (decadely or so) in an effort to avoid tarmac since I hate the smell of its deathly blanket! :D


You DID state a preference for natural materials and (in any case) logs are more durable in the conditions I indicated.

As to the flow of water, the construction acts very much in the same way as 'Thatching' in that natural channels form in accordance with the volume and flow.

Advantages of such pathways and roads being that they neither interfere with the natural habitat of any creatures (in some cases even encourage occupation) nor suffer the deterioration of 'Man made/modified/or manufactured materials. :wink:
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