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Postby CBBB » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:39 am

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Schnauzer wrote:Bracken, Branches and other vegetation, overlaid and compacted with gravel and finally spread with the natural soil (or rock powder) will usually produce a sustainable pathway (or road even) providing there is no constant stream flowing across it.

In some cases, it is possible to construct OVER a stream (particularly in dense jungle conditions) providing a very stout base of logs is laid first, thereafter, the same process is effective and may last many many years. :wink:


Logs! I thought we would have to use clay pipes laid according to the cross-flow of run-off water and then compact with gravel -- But, laying logs sounds promising and much more, interestingly, natural! I don't mind constant maintenance (decadely or so) in an effort to avoid tarmac since I hate the smell of its deathly blanket! :D


I thought you liked the Scots! Mr McAdam wouldn't be happy!


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Re: Tending tracks in Cyprus ...

Postby Oracle » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:41 am

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Oracle wrote:Hello budding engineers :D

Does anyone have any know-how of maintaining natural tracks in Cyprus? Especially in mountainous regions with springs causing erosion etc.

I hear that crushed-rock gravel laid down in autumn forms a hard concrete-like layer after the first rainfall.

No more tarmac roads in Cyprus!

Let's all work together to keep our roads smelling of herbs instead of molten petroleum products ...

Has anyone built a natural road? :D


the petroleum products used to fly you and your dogs back and forth each time do not compare to one poxy road............


I carbon-offset. 8) Use solar and wind power and no Frigidaires! No pool pumps etc. Water from a bore-hole and river.
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Re: Tending tracks in Cyprus ...

Postby denizaksulu » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:44 am

Oracle wrote:
apc2010 wrote:
Oracle wrote:Hello budding engineers :D

Does anyone have any know-how of maintaining natural tracks in Cyprus? Especially in mountainous regions with springs causing erosion etc.

I hear that crushed-rock gravel laid down in autumn forms a hard concrete-like layer after the first rainfall.

No more tarmac roads in Cyprus!

Let's all work together to keep our roads smelling of herbs instead of molten petroleum products ...

Has anyone built a natural road? :D


the petroleum products used to fly you and your dogs back and forth each time do not compare to one poxy road............


I carbon-offset. 8) Use solar and wind power and no Frigidaires! No pool pumps etc. Water from a bore-hole and river.



Very noble of you. What about 'back in the UK?' :?
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Postby Oracle » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:46 am

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Schnauzer wrote:Bracken, Branches and other vegetation, overlaid and compacted with gravel and finally spread with the natural soil (or rock powder) will usually produce a sustainable pathway (or road even) providing there is no constant stream flowing across it.

In some cases, it is possible to construct OVER a stream (particularly in dense jungle conditions) providing a very stout base of logs is laid first, thereafter, the same process is effective and may last many many years. :wink:


Logs! I thought we would have to use clay pipes laid according to the cross-flow of run-off water and then compact with gravel -- But, laying logs sounds promising and much more, interestingly, natural! I don't mind constant maintenance (decadely or so) in an effort to avoid tarmac since I hate the smell of its deathly blanket! :D


You DID state a preference for natural materials and (in any case) logs are more durable in the conditions I indicated.

As to the flow of water, the construction acts very much in the same way as 'Thatching' in that natural channels form in accordance with the volume and flow.

Advantages of such pathways and roads being that they neither interfere with the natural habitat of any creatures (in some cases even encourage occupation) nor suffer the deterioration of 'Man made/modified/or manufactured materials. :wink:


Seriously, Schnauzer, thanks for the log tip. I had made myself believe that "clay pipes" were pretty natural as the alternative to back-filling trenches with rocks from an avalanche -- which were my first instinct before being poo-pooed by more knowledgeable sources. :wink:
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Re: Tending tracks in Cyprus ...

Postby Oracle » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:47 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
apc2010 wrote:
Oracle wrote:Hello budding engineers :D

Does anyone have any know-how of maintaining natural tracks in Cyprus? Especially in mountainous regions with springs causing erosion etc.

I hear that crushed-rock gravel laid down in autumn forms a hard concrete-like layer after the first rainfall.

No more tarmac roads in Cyprus!

Let's all work together to keep our roads smelling of herbs instead of molten petroleum products ...

Has anyone built a natural road? :D


the petroleum products used to fly you and your dogs back and forth each time do not compare to one poxy road............


I carbon-offset. 8) Use solar and wind power and no Frigidaires! No pool pumps etc. Water from a bore-hole and river.



Very noble of you. What about 'back in the UK?' :?


Deniz, believe me -- I live like a tramp. No hairstylists etc. Plain and simple!
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Re: Tending tracks in Cyprus ...

Postby apc2010 » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:50 am

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
apc2010 wrote:
Oracle wrote:Hello budding engineers :D

Does anyone have any know-how of maintaining natural tracks in Cyprus? Especially in mountainous regions with springs causing erosion etc.

I hear that crushed-rock gravel laid down in autumn forms a hard concrete-like layer after the first rainfall.

No more tarmac roads in Cyprus!

Let's all work together to keep our roads smelling of herbs instead of molten petroleum products ...

Has anyone built a natural road? :D


the petroleum products used to fly you and your dogs back and forth each time do not compare to one poxy road............


I carbon-offset. 8) Use solar and wind power and no Frigidaires! No pool pumps etc. Water from a bore-hole and river.



Very noble of you. What about 'back in the UK?' :?


Deniz, believe me -- I live like a tramp. No hairstylists etc. Plain and simple!


what about the hairdresser who sold your hair... ??????
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Re: Tending tracks in Cyprus ...

Postby denizaksulu » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:51 am

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
apc2010 wrote:
Oracle wrote:Hello budding engineers :D

Does anyone have any know-how of maintaining natural tracks in Cyprus? Especially in mountainous regions with springs causing erosion etc.

I hear that crushed-rock gravel laid down in autumn forms a hard concrete-like layer after the first rainfall.

No more tarmac roads in Cyprus!

Let's all work together to keep our roads smelling of herbs instead of molten petroleum products ...

Has anyone built a natural road? :D


the petroleum products used to fly you and your dogs back and forth each time do not compare to one poxy road............


I carbon-offset. 8) Use solar and wind power and no Frigidaires! No pool pumps etc. Water from a bore-hole and river.



Very noble of you. What about 'back in the UK?' :?


Deniz, believe me -- I live like a tramp. No hairstylists etc. Plain and simple!



So its true what they say about Scots. :twisted: :twisted:

Can I make a suggestion?
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Re: Tending tracks in Cyprus ...

Postby Oracle » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:55 am

apc2010 wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
apc2010 wrote:
Oracle wrote:Hello budding engineers :D

Does anyone have any know-how of maintaining natural tracks in Cyprus? Especially in mountainous regions with springs causing erosion etc.

I hear that crushed-rock gravel laid down in autumn forms a hard concrete-like layer after the first rainfall.

No more tarmac roads in Cyprus!

Let's all work together to keep our roads smelling of herbs instead of molten petroleum products ...

Has anyone built a natural road? :D


the petroleum products used to fly you and your dogs back and forth each time do not compare to one poxy road............


I carbon-offset. 8) Use solar and wind power and no Frigidaires! No pool pumps etc. Water from a bore-hole and river.



Very noble of you. What about 'back in the UK?' :?


Deniz, believe me -- I live like a tramp. No hairstylists etc. Plain and simple!


what about the hairdresser who sold your hair... ??????


She used scissors. Then a broom. All manual! :D

The hair was recycled ....
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Re: Tending tracks in Cyprus ...

Postby Oracle » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:56 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
apc2010 wrote:
Oracle wrote:Hello budding engineers :D

Does anyone have any know-how of maintaining natural tracks in Cyprus? Especially in mountainous regions with springs causing erosion etc.

I hear that crushed-rock gravel laid down in autumn forms a hard concrete-like layer after the first rainfall.

No more tarmac roads in Cyprus!

Let's all work together to keep our roads smelling of herbs instead of molten petroleum products ...

Has anyone built a natural road? :D


the petroleum products used to fly you and your dogs back and forth each time do not compare to one poxy road............


I carbon-offset. 8) Use solar and wind power and no Frigidaires! No pool pumps etc. Water from a bore-hole and river.



Very noble of you. What about 'back in the UK?' :?


Deniz, believe me -- I live like a tramp. No hairstylists etc. Plain and simple!



So its true what they say about Scots. :twisted: :twisted:

Can I make a suggestion?


Will you burst if I said "no"?
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Re: Tending tracks in Cyprus ...

Postby denizaksulu » Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:01 am

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
apc2010 wrote:
Oracle wrote:Hello budding engineers :D

Does anyone have any know-how of maintaining natural tracks in Cyprus? Especially in mountainous regions with springs causing erosion etc.

I hear that crushed-rock gravel laid down in autumn forms a hard concrete-like layer after the first rainfall.

No more tarmac roads in Cyprus!

Let's all work together to keep our roads smelling of herbs instead of molten petroleum products ...

Has anyone built a natural road? :D


the petroleum products used to fly you and your dogs back and forth each time do not compare to one poxy road............


I carbon-offset. 8) Use solar and wind power and no Frigidaires! No pool pumps etc. Water from a bore-hole and river.



Very noble of you. What about 'back in the UK?' :?


Deniz, believe me -- I live like a tramp. No hairstylists etc. Plain and simple!



So its true what they say about Scots. :twisted: :twisted:

Can I make a suggestion?


Will you burst if I said "no"?



:oops: :oops:
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