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Postby T_C » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:26 am

Watch this video that everyone seems to be talking about. It's quite long but interesting enough to make it worth watching as it's turning out to be the holy grail of conspiracy theories! :wink:

What makes it more convincing is how this young 25 year old from Leeds pulled down his blog after this very interview and committed suicide a few days later, which no one seems to believe. :?

This is some crazy shit!!! :shock:



Anyone care to give their opinions....please.... :D
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Postby Robin Hood » Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:31 pm

A bit heavy going but interesting! His 'suicide' is very suspicious so, it makes you wonder if there is something behind it all. Especially as William Cooper who also profered the same theories also met a suspicious death.

Anyway I have cleared my diary for all dates after the 21st Dec 2012, just in case!!!!!
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Postby fig head » Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:44 pm

I've heard the 1st few minutes then I got bored and went to my back garden and hugged a tree!! That was more fun
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Postby zan » Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:06 pm

I couldn't watch it past about a few minutes mate.....Th best bit was he interviewer sounded as if he was going to burst out laughing any minute. Does he? I loved his technique of letting the guy make a complete idiot of himself. I compared it o this:
As for the suicide.........I bet he could not take the piss taking afterwards.
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Postby Robin Hood » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:23 am

When any government, or any church for that matter, undertakes to say to its subjects, "This you may not read, this you must not see, this you are forbidden to know," the end result is tyranny and oppression, no matter how holy the motives. Mighty little force is needed to control a man whose mind has been hoodwinked; contrariwise, no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything—you can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him.

You can put 10 tons of proof in front of people, but if they are not ready to accept an idea they will not accept the proof, no amount of evidence will suffice to prove anything. It is the jury who will decide - YOU are the jury! -


Milton William "Bill" Cooper (May 6, 1943-November 5, 2001) was an American writer, shortwave broadcaster, and political activist.- he predicted in June 2001 that the US was going to be attacked by Osama Bin Laden and 'they' thought he was a nutcase too! He also died under mysterious circumstances!

There are billions of people world wide that believe in a God (by whatever name) with absolutely no scientific evidence to support the idea but, if a guy like this Rick Clay puts forward a theory and the reasoning behind it, as far fetched as it may seem, he is treated as an imbecile.

I prefer to just accept what I hear as an hypothosis and see what happens................ so maybe I may have a long wait!!!
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Postby zan » Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:51 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
When any government, or any church for that matter, undertakes to say to its subjects, "This you may not read, this you must not see, this you are forbidden to know," the end result is tyranny and oppression, no matter how holy the motives. Mighty little force is needed to control a man whose mind has been hoodwinked; contrariwise, no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything—you can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him.

You can put 10 tons of proof in front of people, but if they are not ready to accept an idea they will not accept the proof, no amount of evidence will suffice to prove anything. It is the jury who will decide - YOU are the jury! -


Milton William "Bill" Cooper (May 6, 1943-November 5, 2001) was an American writer, shortwave broadcaster, and political activist.- he predicted in June 2001 that the US was going to be attacked by Osama Bin Laden and 'they' thought he was a nutcase too! He also died under mysterious circumstances!

There are billions of people world wide that believe in a God (by whatever name) with absolutely no scientific evidence to support the idea but, if a guy like this Rick Clay puts forward a theory and the reasoning behind it, as far fetched as it may seem, he is treated as an imbecile.

I prefer to just accept what I hear as an hypothosis and see what happens................ so maybe I may have a long wait!!!


Sorry but one story does not justify the other......

A film that I thought was good, on the subject of convincing yourself out of the real world is : http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0481369/
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Postby T_C » Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:05 pm

:lol: Sorry Zan but you can't come to that kind of conclusion having watched only a few minutes of the video.

Some of what this guy uncovered is undeniable, the evidence is there for all to see, for Londoners especially...you would agree yourself if you watched the whole thing.

I found it hard to believe at first but you have to remember this guy was young...I don't think he was given enough time to make sense of what he discovered.

I received a link to another video yesterday...watch from 54:00 onwards...it's about the REAL history of the bible....what this part of the video shows us and what the guy in the OP discovered fit together perfectly and allow us to join the dots for ourselves...

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Postby zan » Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:20 pm

T_C wrote::lol: Sorry Zan but you can't come to that kind of conclusion having watched only a few minutes of the video.

Some of what this guy uncovered is undeniable, the evidence is there for all to see, for Londoners especially...you would agree yourself if you watched the whole thing.

I found it hard to believe at first but you have to remember this guy was young...I don't think he was given enough time to make sense of what he discovered.

I received a link to another video yesterday...watch from 54:00 onwards...it's about the REAL history of the bible....what this part of the video shows us and what the guy in the OP discovered fit together perfectly and allow us to join the dots for ourselves...




I will try to watch it all but doubt very much it will change my perspective :D

If I get time I will try to dissect it but it all depends on activity elsewhere :wink:
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Postby T_C » Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:36 pm

It won't change your perspective, only reaffirm what you already know while giving you a clearer picture as to how it happened...

Just watch it from 54:00 when you have time, it explains the link between ancient Egypt and most of todays leaders, which in turn explains the connections made by the video in the OP.
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Postby Robin Hood » Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:14 am

T_C,

The Rick Clay interview was heavy going but, being a Londoner by birth, much of it I could relate to. However, to really make sense of the second one you would need a PhD in Egyptology/Free Masonary/Royal families/The Mafia and The Worlds various religions!!!! 90% of it went right over my head, maybe too much information?

If you step back at look at what is happening in the world today and over the last decade or so I think there is a lot of evidence to suggest that there is some ‘Global ‘organisation’ with an agenda. What that organisation is or who the parties are is pure conjecture and the subject of a whole host of conspiracy theories. There may well be an element of truth in all of them?

With the advent of the Internet , access to and the transfer of information has made it much easier to assemble facts and co-relate them. Could it be that such a Global ‘Organisation’, if indeed it does exist, is now threatened by facts that have been hidden for hundreds/thousands of years and could now emerge to reveal all? It is well known that the Roman Catholic Church, the Free Masons and the Royal Families have many skeletons in the cupboard that they would like to remain just that ‘in the cupboard’.

The present capitalist system will without doubt collapse within a generation at most because it is unsustainable. There was an interview between Prof. David Harvey and Sarah Montague on BBC ‘Hardtalk’, in which he explained in very simple terms why capitalism was doomed to fail. But he did not suggest a global conspiracy as the cause, merely that the vested ‘interests’ of certain families sustain the existing system. He also said that capitalism would not self-destruct, it would need to be pushed. That is the embryo of revolution!!!!
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