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[Bananiot]

Today's article by Loucas Charalambous, another masterpiece.

I CANNOT tell whether President Christofias is being serious when he boasts that thanks to his much-trumpeted ‘package of proposals’ our side was “one step ahead” of the other side.

If he seriously thinks that such transparent gimmicks would fool the Turks or the international community, he is even more of a political bungler than originally thought.

The pinnacle of his ingenious proposals is the return of the fenced part of Famagusta in exchange for two Greek Cypriot concessions to the Turkish side. First we would undertake not to block the opening of any chapters in Turkey’s accession negotiations with the EU; second, we would agree to the use of Famagusta port by the Turkish Cypriots so we would no longer be held responsible for allegedly keeping them in isolation.

Our cunning and crafty president could be asked the following: If you are “one step ahead” because you now thought about asking for the return of Famagusta, how many miles ahead of us is Rauf Denktash who proposed the same thing 32 years ago and without demanding anything in exchange? And how intelligent is the AKEL leadership, which rejected the proposal back then, dismissing it as a ‘trap’, only to make the same one, a third of a century later?

Christofias’ move is a monument to astounding naivety. It is based on the assumption that the Turks are idiots and foreigners total simpletons. Is there even a one in a million probability that we could fool Turkey with such ridiculous gimmicks?

As things have developed, now that the return of Morphou is dead - killed by Christofias in 2004 – Famagusta is the only negotiating card the Turkish side has in the territory chapter. Is it going to offer it to us before it secures our signature on an overall settlement agreement? If he considers the people who shape Turkish policy so stupid, they would fall for his ridiculous tricks, it is his own political idiocy that he is advertising.

But even the foreigners know us so well now it is laughable for the president to believe that he could trick them with his crude political games. Is it a coincidence that despite his marketing drive, not a single European state has publicly backed his ‘package of proposals’?

Foreign governments are fed up with us. What they want is a settlement agreement. And they are not so stupid they would be unable to understand that, in the extremely unlikely case of Famagusta being returned, this would block any agreement. You – they would tell us – rejected a comprehensive settlement that provided for the return of the town, what motive would you have to reach an agreement if the town was returned beforehand?

Everything, including politics, to a large extent, is subject to rational scrutiny. Someone should inform Christofias who has started engaging in bizarre gimmicks, under the illusion that they would help him come out of the labyrinth in which his unforgivable political sins and cluelessness placed him.

NOTE: A Simerini columnist was riled by my advice to foreign ambassadors – in a previous article – to ‘kick out’ the Mayor of Morphou when he visited them demanding the return of the town by the Turks. He informed us that ambassadors did not ‘kick out’ people.

I was under the impression that even a columnist at a newspaper which is the mouthpiece of political paranoia in our country, would have known that I used the phrase metaphorically. But nowadays, when inciting the murder of political rivals on web-sites, is considered lawful behaviour by the Attorney-general, two or three real kicks, would probably not be such a bad idea.

[Paphitis]

Today's article by Loucas Charalambous, another masterpiece.

I CANNOT tell whether President Christofias is being serious when he boasts that thanks to his much-trumpeted ‘package of proposals’ our side was “one step ahead” of the other side.

If he seriously thinks that such transparent gimmicks would fool the Turks or the international community, he is even more of a political bungler than originally thought.

The pinnacle of his ingenious proposals is the return of the fenced part of Famagusta in exchange for two Greek Cypriot concessions to the Turkish side. First we would undertake not to block the opening of any chapters in Turkey’s accession negotiations with the EU; second, we would agree to the use of Famagusta port by the Turkish Cypriots so we would no longer be held responsible for allegedly keeping them in isolation.

Our cunning and crafty president could be asked the following: If you are “one step ahead” because you now thought about asking for the return of Famagusta, how many miles ahead of us is Rauf Denktash who proposed the same thing 32 years ago and without demanding anything in exchange? And how intelligent is the AKEL leadership, which rejected the proposal back then, dismissing it as a ‘trap’, only to make the same one, a third of a century later?

Christofias’ move is a monument to astounding naivety. It is based on the assumption that the Turks are idiots and foreigners total simpletons. Is there even a one in a million probability that we could fool Turkey with such ridiculous gimmicks?

As things have developed, now that the return of Morphou is dead - killed by Christofias in 2004 – Famagusta is the only negotiating card the Turkish side has in the territory chapter. Is it going to offer it to us before it secures our signature on an overall settlement agreement? If he considers the people who shape Turkish policy so stupid, they would fall for his ridiculous tricks, it is his own political idiocy that he is advertising.

But even the foreigners know us so well now it is laughable for the president to believe that he could trick them with his crude political games. Is it a coincidence that despite his marketing drive, not a single European state has publicly backed his ‘package of proposals’?

Foreign governments are fed up with us. What they want is a settlement agreement. And they are not so stupid they would be unable to understand that, in the extremely unlikely case of Famagusta being returned, this would block any agreement. You – they would tell us – rejected a comprehensive settlement that provided for the return of the town, what motive would you have to reach an agreement if the town was returned beforehand?

Everything, including politics, to a large extent, is subject to rational scrutiny. Someone should inform Christofias who has started engaging in bizarre gimmicks, under the illusion that they would help him come out of the labyrinth in which his unforgivable political sins and cluelessness placed him.

NOTE: A Simerini columnist was riled by my advice to foreign ambassadors – in a previous article – to ‘kick out’ the Mayor of Morphou when he visited them demanding the return of the town by the Turks. He informed us that ambassadors did not ‘kick out’ people.

I was under the impression that even a columnist at a newspaper which is the mouthpiece of political paranoia in our country, would have known that I used the phrase metaphorically. But nowadays, when inciting the murder of political rivals on web-sites, is considered lawful behaviour by the Attorney-general, two or three real kicks, would probably not be such a bad idea.

So what is the purpose of this ill thought out article if what Loucas states is true?

[zan]

Today's article by Loucas Charalambous, another masterpiece.

I CANNOT tell whether President Christofias is being serious when he boasts that thanks to his much-trumpeted ‘package of proposals’ our side was “one step ahead” of the other side.

If he seriously thinks that such transparent gimmicks would fool the Turks or the international community, he is even more of a political bungler than originally thought.

The pinnacle of his ingenious proposals is the return of the fenced part of Famagusta in exchange for two Greek Cypriot concessions to the Turkish side. First we would undertake not to block the opening of any chapters in Turkey’s accession negotiations with the EU; second, we would agree to the use of Famagusta port by the Turkish Cypriots so we would no longer be held responsible for allegedly keeping them in isolation.

Our cunning and crafty president could be asked the following: If you are “one step ahead” because you now thought about asking for the return of Famagusta, how many miles ahead of us is Rauf Denktash who proposed the same thing 32 years ago and without demanding anything in exchange? And how intelligent is the AKEL leadership, which rejected the proposal back then, dismissing it as a ‘trap’, only to make the same one, a third of a century later?

Christofias’ move is a monument to astounding naivety. It is based on the assumption that the Turks are idiots and foreigners total simpletons. Is there even a one in a million probability that we could fool Turkey with such ridiculous gimmicks?

As things have developed, now that the return of Morphou is dead - killed by Christofias in 2004 – Famagusta is the only negotiating card the Turkish side has in the territory chapter. Is it going to offer it to us before it secures our signature on an overall settlement agreement? If he considers the people who shape Turkish policy so stupid, they would fall for his ridiculous tricks, it is his own political idiocy that he is advertising.

But even the foreigners know us so well now it is laughable for the president to believe that he could trick them with his crude political games. Is it a coincidence that despite his marketing drive, not a single European state has publicly backed his ‘package of proposals’?

Foreign governments are fed up with us. What they want is a settlement agreement. And they are not so stupid they would be unable to understand that, in the extremely unlikely case of Famagusta being returned, this would block any agreement. You – they would tell us – rejected a comprehensive settlement that provided for the return of the town, what motive would you have to reach an agreement if the town was returned beforehand?

Everything, including politics, to a large extent, is subject to rational scrutiny. Someone should inform Christofias who has started engaging in bizarre gimmicks, under the illusion that they would help him come out of the labyrinth in which his unforgivable political sins and cluelessness placed him.

NOTE: A Simerini columnist was riled by my advice to foreign ambassadors – in a previous article – to ‘kick out’ the Mayor of Morphou when he visited them demanding the return of the town by the Turks. He informed us that ambassadors did not ‘kick out’ people.

I was under the impression that even a columnist at a newspaper which is the mouthpiece of political paranoia in our country, would have known that I used the phrase metaphorically. But nowadays, when inciting the murder of political rivals on web-sites, is considered lawful behaviour by the Attorney-general, two or three real kicks, would probably not be such a bad idea.

So what is the purpose of this ill thought out article if what Loucas states is true?

No more TRICKS will be tolerated because the world has got your number and........................An early general election perhaps!!!

[Get Real!]

Today's article by Loucas Charalambous, another masterpiece.

Shallow fools like Loucas and Bananiot, like to keep a counter of “steps” that one side is allegedly enjoying “ahead” of the other!

But had “steps ahead” been of any value in the last 35 years, there would’ve been a shift in the “winner’s” direction but where is this shift? In reality we still have nothing but stagnation!

35 years on, the Turkish military is STILL illegally occupying Cypriot territory… not because of its “steps ahead”, not because the RoC is “steps behind”, but because UN Resolutions still say so, and remain disobeyed.

So no matter how many “steps ahead” one party may foolishly think it is… decades old international law ensures that there are no steps taken in ANY direction unless they are steps in the direction of international law!

All these years there was only ONE WAY to taking a STEP FORWARD… and it was that in the direction of abiding by UN Resolutions!

So to anyone who thinks he is “steps ahead” you’d better start walking… because you still haven’t moved an inch!

[zan]

Today's article by Loucas Charalambous, another masterpiece.

Shallow fools like Loucas and Bananiot, like to keep a counter of “steps” that one side is allegedly enjoying “ahead” of the other!

But had “steps ahead” been of any value in the last 35 years, there would’ve been a shift in the “winner’s” direction but where is this shift? In reality we still have nothing but stagnation!

35 years on, the Turkish military is STILL illegally occupying Cypriot territory… not because of its “steps ahead”, not because the RoC is “steps behind”, but because UN Resolutions still say so, and remain disobeyed.

So no matter how many “steps ahead” one party may foolishly think it is… decades old international law ensures that there are no steps taken in ANY direction unless they are steps in the direction of international law!

All these years there was only ONE WAY to taking a STEP FORWARD… and it was that in the direction of abiding by UN Resolutions!

So to anyone who thinks he is “steps ahead” you’d better start walking… because you still haven’t moved an inch!

International law has a habit of changing, as we have seen in the past, so ignore the word on the street at your peril!!

[Get Real!]

Today's article by Loucas Charalambous, another masterpiece.

Shallow fools like Loucas and Bananiot, like to keep a counter of “steps” that one side is allegedly enjoying “ahead” of the other!

But had “steps ahead” been of any value in the last 35 years, there would’ve been a shift in the “winner’s” direction but where is this shift? In reality we still have nothing but stagnation!

35 years on, the Turkish military is STILL illegally occupying Cypriot territory… not because of its “steps ahead”, not because the RoC is “steps behind”, but because UN Resolutions still say so, and remain disobeyed.

So no matter how many “steps ahead” one party may foolishly think it is… decades old international law ensures that there are no steps taken in ANY direction unless they are steps in the direction of international law!

All these years there was only ONE WAY to taking a STEP FORWARD… and it was that in the direction of abiding by UN Resolutions!

So to anyone who thinks he is “steps ahead” you’d better start walking… because you still haven’t moved an inch!

International law has a habit of changing, as we have seen in the past, so ignore the word on the street at your peril!!

That’s another step you’ve taken in the direction of misconception!

[zan]

Today's article by Loucas Charalambous, another masterpiece.

Shallow fools like Loucas and Bananiot, like to keep a counter of “steps” that one side is allegedly enjoying “ahead” of the other!

But had “steps ahead” been of any value in the last 35 years, there would’ve been a shift in the “winner’s” direction but where is this shift? In reality we still have nothing but stagnation!

35 years on, the Turkish military is STILL illegally occupying Cypriot territory… not because of its “steps ahead”, not because the RoC is “steps behind”, but because UN Resolutions still say so, and remain disobeyed.

So no matter how many “steps ahead” one party may foolishly think it is… decades old international law ensures that there are no steps taken in ANY direction unless they are steps in the direction of international law!

All these years there was only ONE WAY to taking a STEP FORWARD… and it was that in the direction of abiding by UN Resolutions!

So to anyone who thinks he is “steps ahead” you’d better start walking… because you still haven’t moved an inch!

International law has a habit of changing, as we have seen in the past, so ignore the word on the street at your peril!!

That’s another step you’ve taken in the direction of misconception!

You keep quoting the resolutions and laws YOU prefer GR and leave the rest to those who really know

[Get Real!]

Today's article by Loucas Charalambous, another masterpiece.

Shallow fools like Loucas and Bananiot, like to keep a counter of “steps” that one side is allegedly enjoying “ahead” of the other!

But had “steps ahead” been of any value in the last 35 years, there would’ve been a shift in the “winner’s” direction but where is this shift? In reality we still have nothing but stagnation!

35 years on, the Turkish military is STILL illegally occupying Cypriot territory… not because of its “steps ahead”, not because the RoC is “steps behind”, but because UN Resolutions still say so, and remain disobeyed.

So no matter how many “steps ahead” one party may foolishly think it is… decades old international law ensures that there are no steps taken in ANY direction unless they are steps in the direction of international law!

All these years there was only ONE WAY to taking a STEP FORWARD… and it was that in the direction of abiding by UN Resolutions!

So to anyone who thinks he is “steps ahead” you’d better start walking… because you still haven’t moved an inch!

International law has a habit of changing, as we have seen in the past, so ignore the word on the street at your peril!!

That’s another step you’ve taken in the direction of misconception!

You keep quoting the resolutions and laws YOU prefer GR and leave the rest to those who really know

Maybe we should start quoting UN resolutions pertaining to Papua New Guinea!

So after 35 years how many “steps ahead” are you now Zanny… has your staircase reached heaven yet?

[zan]

Today's article by Loucas Charalambous, another masterpiece.

Shallow fools like Loucas and Bananiot, like to keep a counter of “steps” that one side is allegedly enjoying “ahead” of the other!

But had “steps ahead” been of any value in the last 35 years, there would’ve been a shift in the “winner’s” direction but where is this shift? In reality we still have nothing but stagnation!

35 years on, the Turkish military is STILL illegally occupying Cypriot territory… not because of its “steps ahead”, not because the RoC is “steps behind”, but because UN Resolutions still say so, and remain disobeyed.

So no matter how many “steps ahead” one party may foolishly think it is… decades old international law ensures that there are no steps taken in ANY direction unless they are steps in the direction of international law!

All these years there was only ONE WAY to taking a STEP FORWARD… and it was that in the direction of abiding by UN Resolutions!

So to anyone who thinks he is “steps ahead” you’d better start walking… because you still haven’t moved an inch!

International law has a habit of changing, as we have seen in the past, so ignore the word on the street at your peril!!

That’s another step you’ve taken in the direction of misconception!

You keep quoting the resolutions and laws YOU prefer GR and leave the rest to those who really know

Maybe we should start quoting UN resolutions pertaining to Papua New Guinea!

So after 35 years how many “steps ahead” are you now Zanny… has your staircase reached heaven yet?

Not so much as ahead but caught up............No more shit from your camp mate or the stairs will become an escalator and the hard slog up a breeze

[Get Real!]

Not so much as ahead but caught up............No more shit from your camp mate or the stairs will become an escalator and the hard slog up a breeze

35 years of “steps ahead” and your staircase to nowhere hasn’t reached panacea yet???

Man, you’d better change builder because this one isn't building according to plan!