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[Schnauzer]

We will both be long, kicking up the roses by the time anything happens here. Took 30 years in the UK!!
So we'll have to meet up and chew the fat over with a beer, .....On the side!!!

Time for my glass of milk................ Goodnight Folks.

[larnacaman]

apc2010,

Not on Forums ....

Schnauzer,

What are you saying here, ...That i'm a racist or something?? That's basically what i've been saying about this political correctness crap, Anybody that stands up and tells it how it is, ....then automatically becomes a racist!!!

I'm no more racist than you or the next man, but i will call up what i consider is wrong or needs saying.
Who's has ridiculed the blacks, ..Me, ..How?? If you call stating facts, or things as they are, how the bloody hell is that ridiculing??

One more thing, ...what are we talking about here, deaths of what innocents, where the hell did that come from??

[apc2010]

apc2010,

Not on Forums ....

Schnauzer,

What are you saying here, ...That i'm a racist or something?? That's basically what i've been saying about this political correctness crap, Anybody that stands up and tells it how it is, ....then automatically becomes a racist!!!

I'm no more racist than you or the next man, but i will call up what i consider is wrong or needs saying.
Who's has ridiculed the blacks, ..Me, ..How?? If you call stating facts, or things as they are, how the bloody hell is that ridiculing??

One more thing, ...what are we talking about here, deaths of what innocents, where the hell did that come from??

I agreed with u on the p/c crap .... but your post regarding g/c and t/s parents etc (if i understand right directed at omer) is in poor taste ,, I know this is a little bit hypocritical from me , but my bad taste stays in the joke section (along with your spelling) ............

[larnacaman]

Where the hell did that come from ????? I've said nothing or implied anything about g/c t/s All i've been been talking about is Non EU immigrants,ie ....Asians, Africans, Middle Eastern, ....not the bloody problems you have going on here right now..... I have always looked upon the Cyprus Turks and Greeks as being Equal, Your both Cypriots as far as i'm conserned. so don't start accusing me of stirring shit between you. If you look at anything i've posted in the past you will see that as far as i'm conserned, the Island should be United, not separated!!!


Touchy !!!! Jesus Christ!!! ....Does the whole world have to revolve around you g/c and t/c etc problem here ??.....

[zan]

So it seems were now blaming 40 year old TV programmes now for UK's present day Violent Street crimes, ...jeezus what other straws are you lot going to catch hold of. hahaha,
I would hazard a wayward guess, that none of the present day offenders have ever seen an episode of ''Till Death do us Part''

Nothing to to with getting some easy money then, for those that have no intentions of gaining employment.... and everything to do with acquiring easy money for drugs???

We are talking cause and you are talking effect Larnacaman.........

as most know i very rarely agree with l/man , but Zan when you said you where happy with the mainland settlers going the menial jobs , is exactly what the uk citizens said in the 50s........

l/man is right ......watch YOUR space............

Sorry I said what where

[apc2010]

So it seems were now blaming 40 year old TV programmes now for UK's present day Violent Street crimes, ...jeezus what other straws are you lot going to catch hold of. hahaha,
I would hazard a wayward guess, that none of the present day offenders have ever seen an episode of ''Till Death do us Part''

Nothing to to with getting some easy money then, for those that have no intentions of gaining employment.... and everything to do with acquiring easy money for drugs???

We are talking cause and you are talking effect Larnacaman.........

as most know i very rarely agree with l/man , but Zan when you said you where happy with the mainland settlers going the menial jobs , is exactly what the uk citizens said in the 50s........

l/man is right ......watch YOUR space............

Sorry I said what where

cant be arsed to find it but i am preety sure you said you are happy they(mainlanders) do the menial work ....

[zan]

I know what your trying to say Zan, it's just that i don't accept stuff that happened years ago, has any influence on these modern day hooligans that think nothing of threatening a mother, by holding a knife to her babies throat, in order to get her purse. and knowing that this bastard will harm her baby if he doesn't get what he wants!!!

Look, i've got some long standing black friends, in UK and throughout the world. Even they tell the same story, that the black youth of today in UK and in Europe as a whole are bone idle, lazy So and So's, that have no incentive to get on in life, just want easy money, listen to music, and get high on drugs. They are basically ashamed of there black youth, and what they stand for!!! So even the older black community are ashamed of there black youth of today. Even if they are in the minority, the high profile violent crimes, and the amount of them, tends to tar all of the black youth, with the same broad brush....

I know i'm generalising, there are a good many, if not the majority, that stay well clear of Any trouble, and go on to be everyday useful citizens. You will never hear about these people, they are probably the very same black people you see going to church on Sundays....

All this crap on here about years gone by, there families being poor, racism, ....does not hold any water with the type of violent street crimes and violent sex crimes, being committed by today's black youth. My late wifes father was a London policeman, being old school so to speak, he couldn't get over the total lack of conscience or remorse, from these black violent street crime offenders when they were caught. As he said they were only interested and only wanted to know, was going to happen to THEM!!

So sorry, ... in my eyes, Your just giving excuses, where there are None!!! ...

No excuses....You are saying the racism is in the past...I am saying it is right here right now. Those black friends dissing their brothers...Shows you the frailty of their position.

I will not make any apologies for being observant while I tell you of what I saw a few weeks ago.

Ten to seven in the morning I was in my van, in Hackney, slowly heading for the red lights, sipping my espresso where a large black woman was singing and dancing her way in the same direction. She was shaking her booty, clapping her hands and singing at the top of her voice. The few motorists that were about that time of the morning just laughed and shook their heads. For some reason all white by the way. As I stopped at the junction of the lights, a well dressed black guy was coming from the left. He was talking rapidly on the phone and looked business like. He heard the commotion from his left and looked over. His shoulders dropped and I heard a frustrated gasp out of him and he almost turned to have a go at her but stopped and went back on the phone whilst crossing the road. He looked angry now. A he crossed he looked up at me. I felt sorry for him. He was taking the blame for this mad woman who he did not know upon himself. For what? For being black also? What a burden and what a responsibility for a hard working guy to feel. Of course I don't know that for sure but he was suited and booted and wide awake heading for work at six fifty. I too felt burdened too and as he looked up I gave him a smile and did that thing with my shoulders to say "What've you gotta do".......He smiled, raised his shoulders and carried on walking with his persona back in place. At least that is what I like to believe. He could have just thought me as mad as her but I don't know.

I am not offering any excuses for bad behaviour but I feel better knowing how it comes about. We make choices and should be punished if we misbehave. There are some in there that are bad through and through and maybe all I am saying is, if the rest of those black kids grew up knowing that they will not be the last person considered for any job they apply for, perhaps they will not become prey for the gangs that develop in these council estates. We have choices but sometimes those choices are the proverbial frying pan or fire. I have to say that there is a class difference issue here also and again maybe I am talking about the lower classes.

[apc2010]

I know what your trying to say Zan, it's just that i don't accept stuff that happened years ago, has any influence on these modern day hooligans that think nothing of threatening a mother, by holding a knife to her babies throat, in order to get her purse. and knowing that this bastard will harm her baby if he doesn't get what he wants!!!

Look, i've got some long standing black friends, in UK and throughout the world. Even they tell the same story, that the black youth of today in UK and in Europe as a whole are bone idle, lazy So and So's, that have no incentive to get on in life, just want easy money, listen to music, and get high on drugs. They are basically ashamed of there black youth, and what they stand for!!! So even the older black community are ashamed of there black youth of today. Even if they are in the minority, the high profile violent crimes, and the amount of them, tends to tar all of the black youth, with the same broad brush....

I know i'm generalising, there are a good many, if not the majority, that stay well clear of Any trouble, and go on to be everyday useful citizens. You will never hear about these people, they are probably the very same black people you see going to church on Sundays....

All this crap on here about years gone by, there families being poor, racism, ....does not hold any water with the type of violent street crimes and violent sex crimes, being committed by today's black youth. My late wifes father was a London policeman, being old school so to speak, he couldn't get over the total lack of conscience or remorse, from these black violent street crime offenders when they were caught. As he said they were only interested and only wanted to know, was going to happen to THEM!!

So sorry, ... in my eyes, Your just giving excuses, where there are None!!! ...

No excuses....You are saying the racism is in the past...I am saying it is right here right now. Those black friends dissing their brothers...Shows you the frailty of their position.

I will not make any apologies for being observant while I tell you of what I saw a few weeks ago.

Ten to seven in the morning I was in my van, in Hackney, slowly heading for the red lights, sipping my espresso where a large black woman was singing and dancing her way in the same direction. She was shaking her booty, clapping her hands and singing at the top of her voice. The few motorists that were about that time of the morning just laughed and shook their heads. For some reason all white by the way. As I stopped at the junction of the lights, a well dressed black guy was coming from the left. He was talking rapidly on the phone and looked business like. He heard the commotion from his left and looked over. His shoulders dropped and I heard a frustrated gasp out of him and he almost turned to have a go at her but stopped and went back on the phone whilst crossing the road. He looked angry now. A he crossed he looked up at me. I felt sorry for him. He was taking the blame for this mad woman who he did not know upon himself. For what? For being black also? What a burden and what a responsibility for a hard working guy to feel. Of course I don't know that for sure but he was suited and booted and wide awake heading for work at six fifty. I too felt burdened too and as he looked up I gave him a smile and did that thing with my shoulders to say "What've you gotta do".......He smiled, raised his shoulders and carried on walking with his persona back in place. At least that is what I like to believe. He could have just thought me as mad as her but I don't know.

I am not offering any excuses for bad behaviour but I feel better knowing how it comes about. We make choices and should be punished if we misbehave. There are some in there that are bad through and through and maybe all I am saying is, if the rest of those black kids grew up knowing that they will not be the last person considered for any job they apply for, perhaps they will not become prey for the gangs that develop in these council estates. We have choices but sometimes those choices are the proverbial frying pan or fire. I have to say that there is a class difference issue here also and again maybe I am talking about the lower classes.

he was probally going to court .......

[zan]

I know what your trying to say Zan, it's just that i don't accept stuff that happened years ago, has any influence on these modern day hooligans that think nothing of threatening a mother, by holding a knife to her babies throat, in order to get her purse. and knowing that this bastard will harm her baby if he doesn't get what he wants!!!

Look, i've got some long standing black friends, in UK and throughout the world. Even they tell the same story, that the black youth of today in UK and in Europe as a whole are bone idle, lazy So and So's, that have no incentive to get on in life, just want easy money, listen to music, and get high on drugs. They are basically ashamed of there black youth, and what they stand for!!! So even the older black community are ashamed of there black youth of today. Even if they are in the minority, the high profile violent crimes, and the amount of them, tends to tar all of the black youth, with the same broad brush....

I know i'm generalising, there are a good many, if not the majority, that stay well clear of Any trouble, and go on to be everyday useful citizens. You will never hear about these people, they are probably the very same black people you see going to church on Sundays....

All this crap on here about years gone by, there families being poor, racism, ....does not hold any water with the type of violent street crimes and violent sex crimes, being committed by today's black youth. My late wifes father was a London policeman, being old school so to speak, he couldn't get over the total lack of conscience or remorse, from these black violent street crime offenders when they were caught. As he said they were only interested and only wanted to know, was going to happen to THEM!!

So sorry, ... in my eyes, Your just giving excuses, where there are None!!! ...

No excuses....You are saying the racism is in the past...I am saying it is right here right now. Those black friends dissing their brothers...Shows you the frailty of their position.

I will not make any apologies for being observant while I tell you of what I saw a few weeks ago.

Ten to seven in the morning I was in my van, in Hackney, slowly heading for the red lights, sipping my espresso where a large black woman was singing and dancing her way in the same direction. She was shaking her booty, clapping her hands and singing at the top of her voice. The few motorists that were about that time of the morning just laughed and shook their heads. For some reason all white by the way. As I stopped at the junction of the lights, a well dressed black guy was coming from the left. He was talking rapidly on the phone and looked business like. He heard the commotion from his left and looked over. His shoulders dropped and I heard a frustrated gasp out of him and he almost turned to have a go at her but stopped and went back on the phone whilst crossing the road. He looked angry now. A he crossed he looked up at me. I felt sorry for him. He was taking the blame for this mad woman who he did not know upon himself. For what? For being black also? What a burden and what a responsibility for a hard working guy to feel. Of course I don't know that for sure but he was suited and booted and wide awake heading for work at six fifty. I too felt burdened too and as he looked up I gave him a smile and did that thing with my shoulders to say "What've you gotta do".......He smiled, raised his shoulders and carried on walking with his persona back in place. At least that is what I like to believe. He could have just thought me as mad as her but I don't know.

I am not offering any excuses for bad behaviour but I feel better knowing how it comes about. We make choices and should be punished if we misbehave. There are some in there that are bad through and through and maybe all I am saying is, if the rest of those black kids grew up knowing that they will not be the last person considered for any job they apply for, perhaps they will not become prey for the gangs that develop in these council estates. We have choices but sometimes those choices are the proverbial frying pan or fire. I have to say that there is a class difference issue here also and again maybe I am talking about the lower classes.

he was probally going to court .......

Twit!!!!

[Nikitas]

It has nothing to do with race etc. For two generations so called "advanced societies" have been trasnferring the risk of violent crime to the victim. When communities take away the rights of self defence from the the law abiding and go to the extent of giving the assailant the right to sue his vicitm if he dares defend himself, then this signifies a moral decrepitude of society. Naturally there will be crime. The surprise woud be if there wasn't!